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    You gave your today for our tomorrow

    in Off-Topic General

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    I can't believe you deleted that other post, regardless of the personal comments. He raised a serious point about Rememberance Day and how it applies under our current culture. For example, should we really expect Japanese or Italian Canadians to all wear poppies? Who are we to deny their right to respect their grandparents who fought in wars? They need a way to remember the soldiers who fought for them, enemy or not.

    Ah, the other guy totally said it better. Way to pretend as if his post never even existed.

    Perhaps you need to read the CDC board rules regarding personal attacks if you are in such disbelief that such a post would be deleted.

    I NEVER said that that families/friends of those who fought against us shouldn't be allowed to remember their war dead. I also NEVER said that we should expect ANYONE to wear a poppy and/or remember our CANADIAN war dead if they are not so inclined. Perhaps you suffer from the same lack of reading comprehension as our suspended 'friend'? Read it again as I am not about to retype it all here again.

    If one has a valid point they wish to make in a post, it should not be couched in personal attack comments else it will be deleted. And I do not respond to rubbish posts that pretend to be something more than they are not.

    You gave your today for our tomorrow

    in Off-Topic General

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    Technically, you're wrong. It doesn't say anywhere that we Canadians should remember our allies. It says "our canadians who died in whatever war" or something like that. To say that Rememberance Day is for our allies would be incorrect. It commemorates the CANADIANS who died in the wars, not Americans or British, etc.

    If you want to get nitpicky..... yes, you are correct. Because Remembrance Day was originally Armistice Day in Britain and throughout the Commonwealth, I included our British Allies and the other members of the Commonwealth in my comments. I have edited my original post so it is 'technically' correct. :P

    November 11, 1918 was to become known as Armistice Day in remembrance of those millions who gave and lost their lives in World War I.

    The end began in early November. A war that had begun in August 1914 under bright summer skies with the glow of patriotism and promise of glory now staggered to a close as the leaden clouds of November 1918 reflected the somber mood of wars end.

    World War I - The Great War The War To End All Wars one of the most horrific wars of all time, was finally over. The Armistice agreement was signed in a railway car in a forest near the French city of Compiegne at the much repeated eleventh hour, of the eleventh day, of the eleventh month. Later a granite block was placed at the site engraved with the words: "Here on 11th November 1918 perished the criminal pride of the German Empire defeated by the free people whom it set out to enslave."

    King Georges RequestOn the first anniversary of Armistice Day, King George V requested that all nations within the British Empire and Commonwealth should afford an opportunity "so that in perfect stillness the thoughts of every one may be concentrated on reverent remembrance of the glorious dead." The kings wishes were observed throughout Canada and all businesses, offices and traffic came to a halt for two minutes at exactly 11:00 a.m. local time.

    Adopting the Poppy

    In 1921, one of the last acts of the Arthur Meighens Unionist government was to draft legislation making Armistice Day a legal holiday to be celebrated on the same day as Thanksgiving Day, which was to be the first Monday of the week in which November 11 fell. It was in this same year that the Canadian Great War Veterans Association adopted the poppy as the official symbol of "remembrance for war dead". The first poppies were cloth replicas manufactured in France but by November 1922 disabled soldiers in Vetcraft shops throughout Canada made the poppies. The Canadian Legion took over the project when in was formed in 1925.

    A Day of Remembrance

    The two holidays remained merged for ten years before it was finally decided, at the urging of veterans and the Canadian Legion, that while Thanksgiving was a day of celebration and goodwill, Armistice Day was a day of somber remembrance. A bill was passed in 1931 proclaiming that Armistice Day be renamed Remembrance Day and conducted on November 11, while Thanksgiving Day was moved to the third Monday in October. (Thanksgiving would later be moved to the second Monday in October in 1957.)

    Today, Remembrance Day is to commemorate Canadians who perished in the First and Second World Wars, the Korean War, the War in Afghanistan and the many Canadian Peacekeeping situations. Every year millions of Canadians gather in all parts of the country, around myriad shapes and sizes of cenotaphs, to remember those who gave their lives so that others could live in peace.

    You gave your today for our tomorrow

    in Off-Topic General

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    i have two points

    1) i agree that you don't have to wear a poppy, but remember how proud a vet must feel when they see us wearing poppies to show our respect.

    2)i am a VERY proud Canadian, but do not forget the many soldiers who fought against the allies. For example, the many german youth (14/15 years old) who were forced into war during the end of world war 2. Lest We Forget

    While I appreciate your sentiments in this regard, I do not agree nor do I support the bolded part above.

    From the Veteran's Affairs Canada site:

    Every year on November 11, Canadians pause in a silent moment of remembrance for the men and women who have served, and continue to serve our country during times of war, conflict and peace. We honour those who fought for Canada in the First World War (1914-1918), the Second World War (1939-1945), and the Korean War (1950-1953), as well as those who have served since then. More than 1,500,000 Canadians have served our country in this way, and more than 100,000 have died. They gave their lives and their futures so that we may live in peace.

    (http://www.vac-acc.gc.ca/remembers/sub.cfm?source=history/other/remember/r_intro)

    Remembrance Day commemorates Canadians who died in the First and Second World Wars and the Korean War.

    Remembrance Day is the time we as Canadians remember our fellow Canadians who gave their lives for their country, making the ultimate sacrifice. I will not be apologetic that I have not the inclination or time to spare in honouring the war dead of those who fought against us. Call me cold, call me unsympathetic but on November 11th at the 11th hour, I will be honouring our war dead and our soldiers currently serving in the armed forces both overseas and here at home.

    Lest We Forget, indeed....

    Edit: On a purely personal level, I do have empathy for the families and loved ones who have lost a father, husband, lover, son, uncle, brother, cousin, nephew etc. no matter what the circumstance, war or otherwise. War is hell, as Sherman said, and it is my own countrymen who went through hell for we Canadians who are deserving, and who are the recipients, of my respect and honour, not those who were trying to kill them.

    CDC Latenight Lounge

    in White Noise

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    Feels weird to be here late. It's been awhile. Someone tell me something I don't know.

    The sternocleidomastoid muscle, also known as sternomastoid and commonly abbreviated as SCM, is a paired muscle in the superficial layers of the anterior portion of the neck. It acts to flex and rotate the head.

    :P

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