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In the post show they mentioned they were a bit disappointed that it seemed to play like any other shooter without anything unique showing in gameplay which is how I kind of felt but it did still look good. I will be getting it I love sci fi games.
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there are 6.974 billion people on the earth.
counting the first world only (as they are typically the only ones who actually spend on luxuries, like videogames, especially expensive ones), there are 1.046 billion people. Assuming an average household size of 2.6 in first world countries (the most recent stat), that gives us 402+ million households, meaning each one would have to buy approximately 2 and a half consoles each to reach a billion. That is NOT going to happen.
and PS2 was one of the most successful consoles in history, which is why sony extended their production for so long, it's a unique case, not a standard across the industry.
Keep in mind they are talking about all sales in general not just people who are buying them for themselves.
Gaming consoles especially new released ones are great for marketing and will be often used as prizes in stores/arcades/bars/schools/etc. As well as by radio stations, small businesses, numerous companies offer prizes off sites like twitter for them. Some companies also simply offer them as entertainment they often have a few up at places like Dave and Busters sometimes in fast food restaurants like McDonalds.. events that have parents with kids sometimes get them to keep the kids busy. Some jobs that have downtime allow the workers to buy them for example a friend of mine is a firefighter and they all chipped in to buy a PS3 and 360 at the firehouse. And of course not to mention a surprising amount of people manage to stupidly break their consoles.
I still think it's unlikely they will hit that billion mark but I don't think it's all that farfetched.
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Is everyone in here 50?
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they won't take the time to make that much detail because it will never be seen. TV's resolutions are not high enough to warrant that. It's a waste of resources to create player models that detailed when in game it'll never show that detail.
I understand what you are saying now. It's still incorrect but I get it haha.
If you stand inches from someone you will see the details down to the pours like in that rendering. If you move back 10 feet you will no longer be able to see the pours and fine details but that person still looks far more realistic than say the picture I posted from Beyond: Two Souls. It isn't because your eye can see in a resolution far superior, that's just the base of it. What makes life look real is those details relfected through realistic motions and lighting added to that extreme detail. Something that many people overlook.
A character that has that much detail will maintain a life like imagine when zoomed in and out on. The base of the model even at a distance will maintain more life like movements from expressions and lip movemen as well as holding a realistic bouncing of light and skin tones.
I really don't know why you referenced TV resolution. If TV resolution can handle real life and advanced CGI I don't understand why you'd think it can't handle videogame graphics which is by far the lesser detailed of the 3.
For reference this is Halo 4's CGI at 720p which clearly wasn't suffering from a lack of resolution.
PS4 was basically saying they now have the power to bring top of the line CGI like graphics into actual gameplay.
If you still think differently that is fine. I still think it's silly that you are still arguing that a company whose entire theme is maintaining and advancing graphics beyond any other gaming company for games that are modeled to look and play like movies is just going to call it quits and not bother being the extra work into pushing gaming graphics to the next level. But if you feel otherwise still all I can say is keep a look out for the PS4 game Quantic Dreams will be releasing and if they in fact decided to not put the extra effort in and don't have the best graphics of any game to date you can feel free to send me my crow.
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i didn't say it couldn't handel that, i said they won't have that. noone will take that much effort into doing that much detail for every character in the game, when the camera will never be close enough to bother to do that much detail.
and there's a HUGE difference between that PS3 image and the PS4 render. i don't even know why you would even reference that.
that's like me saying, well the NES can do this:
so clearly there is no reason to not believe the Wii U can do this:
What you just said made absolutely no sense. You are blantantly announcing without any sources or even logical back up that no developer will ever take the time to produce a game that features graphics of that detail.
The video animation shown at the PS4 reveal of the old man's head was produced by the company Quantic Dream. Now in my previous post I listed 3 games that specifically prided themselves on visual detail, two of those games being Heavy Rain and Beyond: Two Souls. Both of those games are PS3 only games developed by none other than Quantic Dream. Quantic Dream has also already announced that they are working on a PS4 title.
So despite all of the above you still feel you are qualified to announce that the PS4 won't have any games developed that ephasize graphics of that nature?
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As far as your NES to Wii U reference goes I can't see whatever the NES picture is but that comparison is rediculous as it is. It's like comparing a stone to a modern day tire they are so far apart and uses such different componants they aren't comparable. The PS3 and 360 are inferior to PC gaming because they can't produce enough power to match PC with graphics or general in game action. My reference in graphics jump is plausible because the PS4 has 50% more graphic power than the Xbox and both systems feature power that is in the ballpark of todays average to lower average gaming PC's. My point of posting that was to say PS4 can handle those graphics which you agreed with.
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if you truely think the PS4 games will all (or any) have that level of detail you are sorely mistaken.
Why do you say that?
I mean obviously most games won't look like that but considering how much power the PS4 (and even the Xbox One) has and not to mention that video was on the PS4. If it wasn't possible how else would they be able to showcase it off the system?
Keep in mind what was accomplished with those far weaker systems in games oriented on realistic faces such as Heavy Rain, LA Noire, and Beyond: Two Souls. It certainly isn't impossible for that to appear in games like that.
If PS3 can handle this why can't PS4 handle that?
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Wouldn't the multiple OS end up eating through the RAM though?
Should be noted, Australian EB game site had a placeholder price of the Xbox one at $899. Game sites mess up all the time but with all the TV and sport crap, $899 might unfortunately be close to what to expect for the new generation consoles.
No way the starting price will be $900. PS4 is projected to start between $400-$500 and we already saw how PS3 suffered from charging a larger tag than the 360. Plus consoles make as much money on extra content it would not benefit them to launch the price into the gaming PC ballpark and make PS4 the economical choice.
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how many more times are you going to mention the stock scenario? first of all in my opinion it wasn't a disaster. this conference was to inform about the console features, game stuff is what E3 is for. i for one wouldn't call it a disaster at all.
sincerely,
hardcore gamer since commodore 64 days.
I won't speak for everyone...
But I had no problem with them not showing off new games. I had a problem with them showing off all the advancements they made in reference to TV. I wanted to see the advancements they made to the console as a gaming system. PS4 touched upon how the system makes the gaming experience better. Xbox basically just said we can find your perfect match based on your achievements then talked about how watching football would be super cool totes awesome and glossed over the new rules and regulations they will be enforcings saving some until after the show.
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I know I'll enjoy it and I know millions will as well.
You can't expect them to give you all the info of the console within the hour. These conferences do not work like that.
Obviously we'll get a more in depth look at e3, that's how it's always been.
Yes you could probably say ps4 has better exclusive titles, but that's all opinion based. What I didn't here from Sony they will have 15+ exclusive tittles within the first YEAR of launch.
Including 8 brand new franchises.
I own all 3 consoles, I mainly play my Xbox because all my friends have them. My point being Xbox has already won the console selling wars, people are buying Xbox more then ps3 and wii now.
So getting back to my point, of course they'll try to appeal to more "family type gamers". For them that's where they'll sell more consoles, and it'll work. BUT what this means is a better experience for the hardcore gamers, we'll have more to do and with more sales, even more exclusives.
I only see good things for Microsoft going forward.
I am not saying Xbox won't sell millions that is an obvious statement.
Put it this way...
What you are implying is that just because a system changes to favor 1 crowd it's not going to lose a previous crowd it had. This is not true. Recreational gamers are the favored market while hardcore gamers are the ones being isolated. If PS4 appeals to the hardcore gamer why would you think that previously loyal hardcore Xbox gamers won't jump to PS4? If anything the facts are in front of you. This reveal is drawing a much more negative response from hardcore gamers and many of these people are already saying they will go PS4. Can you really speak for people who are saying the exact opposite?
This has never worked in the gaming industry. Many franchises have tried to simplify some advanced aspects of games to suit the recreational gamer for the sake of sales and while sales may still benefit some of the games fell into early graves and in some cases simply lost the hardcore gamers. For example Halo 4 saw this despite praise for the campaign the multiplayer was critisized for it's overly user friendly game style allowing ordanance calls and magnetic bullets. Despite it's tremendous sales many of the hardcore gamers left for the other shooters and within a couple months Halo's multiplayer's population dropped by a larger percentage than any other game being played.
It's like Chrysler marching out a minivan but putting a powerful engine in it and giving the sleak curves and indents of a sports car and expecting this to appeal to both families and people into muscle and sports cars.
In addition keep this in mind. Hardcore gamers hate playing with younger kids. Going into games with people who don't understand it and then dealing with kids who scream over the headsets. On numerous games message boards this is always one of the most complained about things when dealing with randoms and Xbox is just asking for more of it.
Yes it may sell. but hardcore gamers don't care what the crowd is doing they go for what offers them what they want and I don't think it's mass hysteria the majority of hardcore gamers are irritated with Xbox now.
It should also be noted that when the 360 went on sale against the PS3 it was still riding the now faded Halo craze and the PS3 was grossly overpriced. This year the grounds are much different.
For the record I also have an Xbox and a PS3 I actually play my Xbox more than my PS3 and I may even get the Xbox One down the road after the price drops just because I am that much of a gamer. But I don't see how anyone can sit here and say that Xbox just outshined what PS4 offered from a pure gaming standpoint.
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Some of the comments have been ridiculous.
We've gotten some HUGE announcements within only an hour of showing the console.
-bran new tv series of halo directed by Steven Spielberg
-15 exclusive games to be out within the first year
-more tv and movies on your Xbox.
That's just a few. I said before what I expected from Xbox at this reveal and I was almost dead on.
Sure there's a hiccup or two but that's always expected. They're a business and they need to make money.
Ill definitely be pre ordering this console the first
day it's announced
I hope you enjoy it.
But most people wanted to see advancements in gaming and they marketed a glorified DVR. Personally a Halo TV series and more advanced features for movies and TV aren't what I want from my console (plus it's not like PS4 won't have any of this).
As far as exlcusive games go they didn't give much info on these games if at all and Xbox has released some very crumby exlusive games in the past while many consider playstation to have a more rounded set of exlusives.
What I saw was a industry push a product marketed for recreational family type gamers.
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I have both a PS3 and Xbox, always prefered Xbox.
After watching this... I think I am leaning towards getting a PS4. Xbox hardly even talked about gaming.They basically just marketed Xbox as a fancy cable box.
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Ashleigh was easily the star of this thread back in the day.
She was also the star of that post your body thread or whatever it was called.
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The crowd made that entertaining.
Though I am not a huge fan of Ryback (specifically as a WWE Champion). His gimmick has no verbal personality and is all about beast like aggression. Basically a less impressive version of Brock Lesnar, who still needs Paul Heyman to work the storylines for him.
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They will fill the time with more Fandango dance time and an extended John Cena speech about redemption and his respect for The Rock.
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Intercontinental Championship:
Wade Barrett © vs. The Miz
Who I want to win: The Miz
Who will win: The Miz
Tons of Funk & The Funkadactyls vs. Team Rhodes Scholars & The Bella Twins
Who I want to win: Don't care, I will probably use this match to go to the bathroom
Who will win: Funkadactyls
Tag Team Championships:
Team Hell No © vs. Dolph Ziggler & Big E Langston
Who I want to win: Zig & E
Who will win: Zig & E
Sheamus, Randy Orton & The Big Show vs. The Shield
Who I want to win: The Shield
Who will win: The Shield
Chris Jericho vs. Fandango
Who I want to win: Fandango
Who will win: Fandango
World Heavyweight Championship:
Alberto Del Rio © vs. Jack Swagger
Who I want to win: Jack Swagger
Who will win: Alberto Del Rio
Ryback vs. Mark Henry
Who I want to win: Mark Henry
Who will win: Ryback
Brock Lesnar vs. Triple H
Who I want to win: Brock Lesnar
Who will win: Triple H
The Undertaker vs. CM Punk
Who I want to win: CM Punk
Who will win: The Undertaker
WWE Championship:
The Rock © vs. John Cena
Who I want to win: The Rock
Who will win: John Cena
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I wish WM wasn't so damn expensive to order on PPV
I noticed if you order the stream though the APP to view on your computer, phone, or through Xbox is $10 cheaper. If you have friends who are into wrestling though you can always split it. Go to whoever has the best home theater set up and just split the tab a few ways and order some delivery.
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Orton joining The Shield would kind of be a step back for those three. They're doing just fine as the three of them.
Then they would have to increase 3MB to 4MB so they can fight whoever is opposing the shield every week.
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Why Fandango is being pushed
At first I thought he was a gimmick to buy them more time to set up other matches and behind the scene things so the live event runs more smoothly haha.
His pants are pretty cool though.
I just hope he surprises with some good wrestling I dunno how I feel about his overly generic leg drop.
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The more I think about it, Cena may turn heel at WM. People have been complaining about how poorly and predictable the buildup to WM has been, but Vince knows that fans will still buy the PPV, just because its WM. I would imagine Vince will finally hit us with the swerve that the people want to see, and that's a Cena heel. Everyone will be talking about the turn the next night, and not how Wrestlemania was poorly booked and predictable.
I also came up a thoery that Laurinaitis will cost the Rock the match and align himself with Cena. I mean there's a reason why he came back on Smackdown and had a altercation with the Rock.
Wishful thinking.
Both of those ideas have actually been a common believe floating around for the past 2 weeks.
But keep in mind the writing has been very poor lately they have flip flopped and abandoned numerous potential story lines the last month to what many credit to having to many cooks in the kitchen as they fired the lead writer and have 4 people or so doing the same job now. I wouldn't be surprised if Laurinaitis has nothing to do with it.
I don't think the Rock and Cena match is that predictable though personally. Most assumed Cena would win simply so the Rock can go back to making movies but the Rock is already confirmed to stay another month that gives them a pretty wide set of possible outcomes.
I do hope Cena goes heel though. he bores the hell out of me as a face.
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I was excited for Henry vs Ryback as I like the power vs power type matches but I was hoping they would maintain an adult at least semi believable approach however marketing Ryback as stronger than Henry is absurd let alone having both of them break records that neither man can come close to.
The Mark Henry smiling bit amused me though, nostalgic sexual chocolate moment.
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That X-Pac injury made me cringe as much as Kevin Ware's.
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How is Big E. Langston's finisher supposed to hurt?
[Official] Destiny
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I didn't realize this was basically a FPS MMO style game with RPG elements with the fireteam meet ups being random and such. The commentators really were terrible and didn't give much. I am much mpre hyped now.