Tystick
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1 minute ago, Dazzle said:
For calling him a sheepie - accusing him of listening to stuff without thinking for himself. That's somehow making you 'enlightened' then?
I called him a sheepie? I never claimed I was enlightened. Just looking for a discussion. So far it's just a dog-pile of people 'trying to get me', not actually considering my argument.
I'm just absolutely amazed at the tolerance of free thought and opposing opinions on this forum, it's honestly incredible.
So proud of this community.
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6 minutes ago, The Lock said:
Except your evidence proved the opposite in how they actually do work, as also pointed out.
Perhaps you should go to an education camp somewhere. If it saves lives please do.
How fascist of you.
Yes, no free thought allowed, no questioning.
Actually I've pointed out plenty of times that surgical masks specifically, are only so effective at preventing a specific range of particles that are larger than covid.
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1 minute ago, Dazzle said:
No one said that it's a cure for the virus - and no one said you'd kill someone if you don't wear the mask. It's NEGLIGENCE when you do.
I'll tell you nicely. Stay the F home if you want to go maskless.No.
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2 minutes ago, Dazzle said:
Well that didn't last long at all...
Not sure how that's an insult lol.
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3 minutes ago, Dazzle said:
@Tystick From what I'm gathering, you believe in your 'right' not to wear a mask. The purposes of wearing a mask serve two purposes: one, to potentially protect you from COVID or other airborne illnesses; and two, to potentially protect against the spread of the disease. If you don't want to wear a mask, that's fine - just stay at home. Minimize the contact to just your family members.
Failure to wear a mask isn't a religious practice. It's just simply being considerate of others. You go maskless, you risk being a potential host for the virus. If you think you have a right not to wear a mask, just stay home. Why should you or others feel the need to go and "do whatever you want" when you are putting others at risk? That is plain selfish.
Yes it's the same argument every time, I'm somehow killing people if I don't wear a mask, when there's actually no way we can trace anything back to any specific person.
Perhaps there's a better way? NO, do what we say or you're going to kill people.
Sorry, not convinced, I'll go with human error is the cause of the spread.
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3 minutes ago, spur1 said:
That is about all you deserve from me. I am losing my patience with covidiots who can’t see the forest for the trees. In fact most are only looking at their own tree. Privilege indeed.
I would never insult someone for an opposing view.
I guess that's how we differ.
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4 minutes ago, The Lock said:
You literally just said they may have some effect. And if your "research" has any confirmation bias at all (based on what you're saying here it's likely all confirmation bias) we might as well just throw that out the window. You vs experts. Guess who I'm believing (hint: it's not you).
Human error goes up due to people not wearing masks. That's part of the human error.
There is unity. You're just on the opposite end of it. If people like you actually came down to reality, there'd be even more unity. So yes, absolutely you're creating division and those 15 people have every right to attack you as much as you have every right to have an opinion.
Let me ask you this: why are you so against wearing a mask? Are you anti-clothes as well? Do you prefer to walk around the mall naked?
"There is unity, it just doesn't include you"
Lol thanks.
Should I go off to an education camp somewhere so I can think properly like you?
I'm against wearing a mask because I don't believe they are working at all, as I've tried to make these points for the last few hours.
I'm not randomly saying this, I've presented my argument.
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1 minute ago, spur1 said:
Lol...you are being attacked by 15 people at once...welcome to democracy... the majority rules and your opinion is most definitely in the minority.
Check your privelege, sir.
I guess I need to fight for the rights of minorities on this forum.
Where's the tolerance?
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6 minutes ago, spur1 said:
You can’t even comprehend what I said. I said your WHOLE line of reasoning.
All I've gotten from you is insults.
Sad.
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4 minutes ago, The Lock said:
If you're concerned about a lockdown creating massive protests, perhaps you should be worried about the people protesting and not the government.
Everyone has the right to protest for whatever reason they want.
Shaming and attacking those currently doing so won't change anything, they will just get more pissed off.
That's why this system is so great, the protests are supposed to get the governments attention and signal that something their doing isn't working.
There's 100% a better way to handle this pandemic, especially after 8 months of experience.
People are allowed to hold the government accountable. They work for us.
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4 minutes ago, The Lock said:
1. I already told you that it's not about being 100% effective. You have yet to argue against that so I assume you have nothing there.
2. It's simple: anti-maskers have a higher risk of increasing the disease by not wearing a mask.
3. The only division is the one you're creating right now by being irresponsible about it. This is literally a life and death scenario and you're arguing against wearing a piece of cloth on a head that can save lives, not 100% of lives, but can save lives.
I have touched on this many times.
I don't believe they are working. They may have some effect but not enough to make a difference.
Couple that with human error and there's no point. Just my opinion from my own research, but once again with the mask mandate, I'm sure we will see a drop in cases very soon.I'm creating division? Lol. I'm getting attacked by like 15 people at once. I'm calling for unity and a discussion on how this can be done in a better way.
I didn't realize that was such a bad thing.
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1 minute ago, spur1 said:
Just stating my opinion just like you. Your whole line of reasoning is an insult.
So if I'm concerned about a lockdown resulting in a massive increase in protests, that's an insult?
Am I allowed to question the governments handling of the situation right now?
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1 minute ago, spur1 said:
Covidiots like you.
Insults aren't arguments.
Sorry, try again.
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2 minutes ago, The Lock said:
And if would be the anti-maskers fault for it. That's the irony about it all.
You've mentioned previously that you're not "living in fear of covid" by not wearing a mask; whereas, that's actually the beta-male approach in all of this.
Would it be the anti-maskers fault? Because masks aren't 100% effective and everyone breaks the measures at some point, even by accident. Human error.
How can you conclude it was the "anti-maskers" fault? And do you think it's healthy to continuously fuel the division?
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Just now, butters said:
that doesn't actually happen. Not only is it not that simple, there is always opposition on any given issue.
Such as?
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4 minutes ago, BlueDragon23 said:
And you’re qualified to lecture others on COVID-19 and the benefits wearing a mask vs not wearing a mask? Sorry but I’m trusting health professionals over some smartass who thinks they have all the answers.
Well I never thought I was lecturing you, just discussing my opinion on the subject.
I can make claims based on what I've researched and believe in, and you can do the same. It's okay, it's called free speech. You're allowed.
Don't trust me, just do some further digging if you're interested. That's my only wish.
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4 minutes ago, spur1 said:
Your right, the government could just lock it down like has been done elsewhere. Too many Covidiot anti maskers and that is exactly what will happen.
That would be a mistake and would force massive protests all over Canada.
Doesn't seem like a good idea to me.
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2 minutes ago, canuck2288 said:
This is not a government issue
the world was wearing masks long before any North American government recommended it
can you not act on your own? You have you wait for official instructions?
yet another whiner pinning everything on any level of government
Of course I can act on my own, I'm a free individual that makes his own choices.
No person or government can dictate what I do with my life.
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My biggest fans are the ones that react with a confused emoji.
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Just now, The Lock said:
Can you give me a scenario where a government has come up with a plan that has made everyone happy, covid or not? And let me stress this...
1. You can pick any government policy in the world in the history of the world.
2. Everyone has to be happen. Not a single person unhappy. Not one.
Yes.
Any policy that hasn't infringed on your basic human liberty, had too much government intervention and overspending.
Everyone mutually agreed and there's never been a second thought about it.
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1 minute ago, The Lock said:
But we also have to hold ourselves to better standards too. The government can only do so much. We need to be able to protect each other. This whole anti-masker scenario isn't doing any of that and that's the problem. It's just people being selfish and not caring if they infect others or get infected themselves (or at least implying that).
If we're going to talk about standards here we need to hold each other accountable in all of this. That's what that culture we were talking about earlier is about. It's not about wishing death on anyone. It's holding people accountable just as you're talking about holding the government accountable.
I disagree, the government could come up with a solution that stays within the parameter of everyone's rights.
Then there's no protests.
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1 minute ago, -Stammer- said:
the government is doing this to prevent hospitals from overloading like we saw in Italy early in the pandemic so that everyone gets equal treatment. These restrictions won't last forever, it's a sacrifice that people need to make to protect the lives of many.
I sure hope you're right and that we see a drop in cases in the coming weeks.
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2 minutes ago, -Stammer- said:
if you really think that would have a significant effect I don't know what to tell you. The percentage of false positives is not high enough to have a dramatic effect on anything
Well false positives have been a thing.
I don't see how that's any worse of a theory than claiming we have eradicated the flu.
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5 minutes ago, canuck2288 said:
The fact you think this is a human rights issue is all I need to know about you
If you can't see that as a factor in this then I don't know what to say.
I'm not picking a side.
I'm not dividing people.
I want us to start listening to each other and hold the government to better standards.
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[Fired] Mark Donnelly
in Canucks Talk
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Okay boomer.