And talk about suffering, it's endless. Betman is driving the NHL into oblivion. I mean they have to play bloody outdoor games in LA to get any fans. Everywhere you look, the stands are empty. And when was the last time a canadian team has won the cup? How many years in a row does Edmonton need to be a joke team, isn't it their turn to win? Why is Anaheim better than Edmonton with a worse line-up. It's endless.