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  1. Which is all true, but if this is a penalty, every time someone is skating forward and gets a light crosscheck from behind is a penalty whether they fall or not. It happens all game long from every player in the league.
  2. Ok. This is a bad play by play. Both linesmen let them fight. Post #19, with the youtube feed clearly shows that. I watched several times, the gloves were dropped nearly simultaneously. Burrows has been at this for 10 more years than Kreider, but when Burrows started in the league 05-06 = 3, 06-07 = 4, 07-08 = 9, 08-09 = 3, 09-10 = 1, 11-12 = 1, 13-14 = 3, 14-15 = 1 Kreider has 4 in two years. Who fights more?
  3. But playing the best players isn't working either. They are not short on talent, they are short on work ethic. If that isn't fixed, it doesn't matter who coaches them. Things to fix from a statistical perspective: Give aways - they lead the league Faceoff's - they are 21st in the league. You cant win if you don't control the puck Defense - they lead the league in goals against. Forwards need to back up the defense. Constant two way game from all players Penalties - they are 7th in penalty minutes, you can't score while you are on the PK Just stuff I see. Now, the whole grinder thing, the season is gone. Playoff hopes are gone. They have 19 points in a Conference where the current playoff threshhold is 36 or so. You can't make that up, even with a good streak up the middle of the season. So, use it as a teaching time. Get ready for next season, find a way to activate and motivate your stars so you come out of the gate better next year. Let's be real, it is the only thing they have.
  4. This may be the long term effect of tanking a team and getting a lot of high end rookies with no (or rather not enough or not the right kind) leadership core to develop them. One of the biggest problems is that these talented players are making a ton of money, but have not earned it, sort of a byproduct of the player market itself. Potential is paid for as opposed to production. For instance, Eberle is being paid 6M, but he has never had a season over 76 points. That's only a mil less than Daniel or Henrik, who have proven themselves over time. Hall is being paid the same, last year only 80 points. Hopkins as well, despite never breaking 56 points. Those three contracts don't start to end until 2019-20 or so. They don't have to win to make the money. Edmonton needs to change this by building a culture where work ethic is rewarded as opposed to simple potential. They need their own Chris Higgins, Alex Burrows or Shawn Matthias who got to play because they worked hard and wouldn't quit. Right now they have over paid prima donnas whose work ethic and team moral is horrible. I am not a coach, but I might think about letting some grinders play 18-20 min and play your top line for 10 for a game or two. You can't put players like then on waivers, they would be gone in a heartbeat, but they do need something drastic, something that makes a statement, and trading isn't it, they have no value as it is, it has to be internal.
  5. If we have to dip into the free agent pool, besides Salo Joni Pitkanen Douglas Murray Cory Sarich and just cause of sheer size Hal Gill All of these guys are unsigned as well. Not attempting to say they would replace Hammer, but they are out there.
  6. So, seems his minutes are not what I would call 4th line minutes. vs Dallas 13:47 Hansen 11:11 vs Tampa 9:22 Hansen 10:51 vs Edmonton 9:56 Hansen 9:09 vs Edmonton 9:33 Hansen 9;46 vs Calgary 9:39 Hansen 9:54 Seems his time on the ice is pretty good overall, especially considering he is at times getting more ice time than Hansen.
  7. Seems we had a thread with a title like "Bieksa? Do we really need him?" or such that was discussed for some 3-400 pages.
  8. We are only packing 22 now.
  9. Are we sure that PK didn't mean Jordans farts are worse that his? (lol)
  10. So, 3.7 was based on simply appearing in 10 regular season games. The remaining 500K is paltry compared to this.
  11. If we send him to Utica we only get 925K of cap room. New CBA rules regarding demoting players. If we aren't going to play him, we need to trade him to get him off our books.
  12. If that knee took a toll that bad, then he has to find a different way to play. Or get out of the game. (I am not totally heartless here, easier said than done, and there are some 9 million dollars on the line over 2 years) But from a team perspective it is very true. He needs to produce, and if that can't be offensively, then it has to be defensively, and consistently.
  13. I Read the thread before posting, this has kind of been answered. He has been given a shot to earn his way back into the lineup. He simply hasn't earned his way back in. I think David Booth is a guy who had a banner year (31g 29a 60p) and signed a contract based on that year with a team that makes poor decisions. This is the same team that over signed Ballard BTW. He has never reproduced those numbers, and never will short of being gifted a first line spot. We got him hoping that he would regain his form, but it was a mistake on our part. He is a 1-2m utility player.
  14. So, this is a lot of exactly what the team does not need. And if Tortorella becomes the coach, he has to realize it. First of all, there is no country club mentality. It's not a country club mentality when your playing constantly hurt. http://www.legendsof...sp?player=14613 I attribute this to the coach. Wanna see more injuries? Have Daniel and Henrik blocking shots on a PK. The idea is stupid. They are not the problem, and have never been. I ranted about that on other threads. What we need is a good 3rd and 4th line that can kill penalties. BTW, not all 1st line players kill penalties. I am not going to go through 30 rosters, but anyone who watches hockey understands this. Their point production in the playoffs was not the problem. Lack of secondary scoring was. I do agree with Torts and the media. I would have liked to see a little push back. Truth is, not of the mouthy kind, but rather "if you don't stop asking stupid questions, I'll stop doing interviews". The mouthy kind is entertaining, and it soothes the wounded ego and temper, but it doesn't stop the stupid questions. End the interviews. Kick the media out of the room. A little more Zetterburg and McGuire would stop the idiocy. These guys love Tortorella. He is not going to have them shaking in their boots, he is going to have them lined up for more. Reporters could care less what you think of them, it's a little like telling a used car saleman he is sleazy. He knows he is sleazy, but as long as you buy a car, he doesn't give a rip what you think of him. You go on to say if players don't like Tortorellas actions they can be shipped out. What you meant to say is if they don't agree with your actions. Let's face it, none of us agree with every decision any coach makes, and if you piss and moan about AV, your gonna piss and moan about JT. Or Stevens, or Ruff, or Boucher, or Martin or whoever. True dat. What makes anyone think we need more yelling? We had Crawford, how come it didn't work for him? We had Iron Mike Keenan before hime, and it didn't work. Truth is, when we got rid of the pompous, yelling, tightfisted leaders we had for almost 20 years, we made it to game 7. We were there in 82 with Renney, again in 94 with Quinn, and then after 20 years of screaming coaches, again in 2011 with Vigneault. So what on earth makes anyone think we need to set the team back 20 years in coaching? I am not saying Tortorella is the wrong guy, I am responding to the post. Now, let's be fair. No General enters the true battlefield. And no General tells each man what his individual duty is. Yet, coaches including AV draw up set plays that include EXACTLY where you stand, which direction you face, which way to go based on which way your assigned man goes, which way your skates point, which way your stick points, and what to do if things do not go according to plan. What did you think he meant by the word "system" or "process" every time he was interviewed? So your illustration is dramatic, but incorrect. I see it is your first post, so I am not trying to be too hard on you, but I have seen a lot of these posts lately. Maybe Torts is the right guy, but lets not get the idea that simply yelling at experienced players is going to win a cup.
  15. Bump.