Greene02 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Same thing happened with Hall, he was pretty close to the cutoff and would've challenged tavares for 1st overall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Try Again Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 True. Hall and Tavares aren't quite the same as RNH and Yakupov though. Tavares- September, 1990 Hall- November 1991 RNH- April 1993 Yakupov- October 1993 There was a pretty big gap between Hall and Tavares so they wouldn't have been quite as easy to compare head to head as RNH and Yakupov. Tavares and Stamkos are a little easier to compare. He missed the cut off for the 2008 draft by just 5 days. I realize now that my first post was a little off. I thought RNH had an August birthday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greene02 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 what does Yakupov getting cut-off from the 2012 entry draft have to do with his skill set? age matters only because of physical maturity which RNH doesn't really have yet, but he's still doing well in the NHL nhl scouts have said that if Yakupov went this year he would have gone in the top 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Mikheyev Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 I didn't say anything about his skill set. I'm talking about his stats. All I'm saying is that at the end of the year people shouldn't be saying "Look how much better Yakupov is compared to Stamkos and RNH. They had 105-106 points in their draft years while Yakupov had 130 points". He's actually a year older than they were in their draft years. He should be putting up some crazy numbers. He's 18 years old. Just look at Huberdeau. He's averaging 2 points per game as well. The only difference is that he's already been drafted because he's a few months older. ...and Yakupov probably would have went 1st or 2nd in 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyHobo73 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Nail will be insane. But we have Hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trycity Tornados Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 He'll go to Ottawa, pretty certain about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greene02 Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Yeah, but Nail is scoring a 2 PPG in the OHL whereas Huberdeau is doing in the QMJHL. Also, on paper Huber's team is way better, but Sarnia is doing so well mostly because they have Yakupov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Mikheyev Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 My point is still valid. Huberdeau was just an example of another high profile 18 year old in the CHL. I fully expect Yakupov to be a better prospect than Huberdeau. He may even be better than RNH. I'm just saying don't assume he's significantly better than RNH just because he's going to finish with 30-40 more points in his draft year. He SHOULD be putting up these types of numbers at his age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Try Again Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 I didn't say anything about his skill set. I'm talking about his stats. All I'm saying is that at the end of the year people shouldn't be saying "Look how much better Yakupov is compared to Stamkos and RNH. They had 105-106 points in their draft years while Yakupov had 130 points". He's actually a year older than they were in their draft years. He should be putting up some crazy numbers. He's 18 years old. Just look at Huberdeau. He's averaging 2 points per game as well. The only difference is that he's already been drafted because he's a few months older. ...and Yakupov probably would have went 1st or 2nd in 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Mikheyev Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 age doesnt really matter for yakupov because its not like this is his 3rd year in the OHL, its his 2nd RNH, Taylor hall all played 3 years in the CHL before being drafted so because this players older he has to dominate the CHL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Heyman Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Yakupov scored to bring Sarnia's game within 1 against Saginaw. 12 on the Season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armada Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Colorado looks too good to finish dead last. He'll go to either Calgary or one of those terrible Eastern teams, maybe even the Devils or Winnipeg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greene02 Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 age doesnt really matter for yakupov because its not like this is his 3rd year in the OHL, its his 2nd RNH, Taylor hall all played 3 years in the CHL before being drafted so because this players older he has to dominate the CHL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Mikheyev Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 33 points in 15 games. What is even more impressive is that the 2nd highest scorer currently has 21 points in 15 games (respectively) and last year in his 3rd OHL season he had only 38 points in 68 games... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanye West Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 No, but the point that Greene is making is that he is just as or close to as physically mature as RHN was last year. Edit: it is true you have to look at all the factors though. RHN had a lot of extra years on NA ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Mikheyev Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Lol good luck to keeping those three together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyHobo73 Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Lucky Columbus. Hopefully, Florida wins the lottery. Nail would look great in a Canucks uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greene02 Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Yeah, of course. As an Edmonton fan, are you kind of hoping EDM gets another lottery pick? Hall - RHN - Yakupov? That line just screams success and RHN feeding Nail passes just seems too good to be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanye West Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Perry - Getzlaf - Ryan Kane - Toews - Hossa Ovechkin - Backstrom - Semin It IS possible.. unlikely yes. But I would like to watch it, so they should do it for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Mikheyev Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 It would be pretty amazing to watch but I'm fine with drafting 6-12th. Drafting 1st overall is fun and all but it's time to start seeing some wins. Eberle and Hemsky are more than capable RWers. Someone else can take a turn at having the 1st pick Hall - RNH - Eberle Paajarvi - Gagner - Hemsky That's pretty well rounded. Ideally Tambellini would find a way to replace Gagner with someone who has more size, can win a faceoff and match his 15ish goals and 45ish points a season. In a perfect world Gagner would just take his game to the next level and become that 20 goal/60 point center. It makes it easier to give him a break on the weak defensive play and faceoff% if he's putting up those types of numbers. A lot of Oilers fans have written him off but I still think he has it in him. This may be his 5th season but he's still just 22 years old. Eberle had 43 points in 69 games last season. Gagner is 8 months older and had 42 points in 68 games. If he wouldn't have been rushed into the league and been a 20 year old rookie like Eberle was, people would be much higher on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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