Tearloch7 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 The decision to put Mason Raymond on the second line is correct when the Los Angeles Kings are likely going to play the trap against the Canucks. Raymond can pick up the puck in flight in the neutral zone from a good tape-to-tape pass from our defencemen and expose the backwards skating Kings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Fatigue Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 problem with raymond is that... when he gets put down to the fourth, he doesnt play hard. a player with his speed should be able to make the other teams 4th line (and hopefully) bottom d-pairing look silly - but the fact is, when raymond gets demoted he dissapears even harder! im SO sick of seeing raymond skate around throwing terrible passes to other teams d-men. if there is a weak spot on our team, it is raymond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuxforever Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 We need Lappy on the third/fourth line. As we know the top two lines almost always cancel each other out. It's the third and fourth line that will need to be better than the other teams 3rd and 4th line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar_Down16 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Clearly we have a dilemma with Mason Raymond because when a guy like Lapierre goes on your top two lines and unexpectidly performs you got to make the right decision. Truth is Raymond can be a huge asset but Lapierre has potential also. I understand Lapierre is the man who drives the fourth ine to success. But i wa hoping we would enter playoffs with a more physical team then last year. But i feel that having Raymond in the lineup brings us back to square 1. I think we have a solid chance of winning but there has been times this year where L.A has got the best of us in the physical category. I rather bench Raymond then Manny because the team does not always show up with out Mannys leadership. Raymond can also be a distraction because you will start him on a top line he will score dirty goals for two straight games and then he wont show up. That is why I would judge Raymond by th e period. The lines should look like this. Sedins-Burrows (If they get pushed around split the Sedins) Lapierre-Kesler-Booth Higgins-Pahlsson-Hansen Bitz-Manny-Weise/Kassian Bieksa-Hamhuis Salo-Edler Alberts/Tanev-Rome Lu Schneid *Every single year Lappy has been in the NHL he has began the playoffs on the fourth but then ends up moving to a diffrent line. Last year cody only had one point in round 1 so they slowly faded lappy in with the third line and before you knew it he was starting every game on the third line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nux4lyfe Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Well Lapierre is the becoming of the next Burrows, how do you think Burrows became a first line player, by playing the same role as Lapierre and grinding his way to the top. Lapierre is the exact same player and is doing the exact same things, and he will be the next Burrows, there is a reason why these 2 players grew up only 30 mins apart from each other in Quebec. They are brothers from another mother! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ktakatch Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 playoffs is a new season.. lapierre should be given a shot on the 2nd line over raymond.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keslerian one Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Daniel - Henrik - Burrows Booth - Kesler - Higgins Lapierre - Pahlsson - Hansen Malhotra - Reinprecht - Bitz/Weise I think the addition of Reinprecht makes Raymond somewhat more expendable if he keeps this up. But for sure, Raymond should be given a shot to start the series. But keep him on a short leash. Start the internal competition for playing time too (not that these guys need any ulterior motivation). Those bottom 6 look damn solid. With the AMEX line reunited, our top 6 becomes that much more dominant. AV - listen to me, because I know you read CDC forums for coaching tips! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KING ALBERTS Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 You're upset with Raymond's play before the playoffs have started? Give the guy a chance. They don't call it a "second season" for nothing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucklehead420 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 mason raymond playoff stats 46GP 7G 8A 15 Points he has had quite a chance, and those are some miserable top - 6 numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surtur Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 The decision to put Mason Raymond on the second line is correct when the Los Angeles Kings are likely going to play the trap against the Canucks. Raymond can pick up the puck in flight in the neutral zone from a good tape-to-tape pass from our defencemen and expose the backwards skating Kings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underachieving Hero of CDC Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Gotta agree with the OP. Lapierre plays way too good in the playoffs to waste him on the 4th line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TACanucks Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Raymond just doesn't fit on our team, he shuts down Booth/Kes and we can't put him on the 3rd line because Hig-Pahlsson-Hansen are tearing it up together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opmac Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 so can ballard , grags, kesler, booth, hansen, burrows did i miss anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surtur Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Your point being? The way to break the trap is with speed through the neutral zone with tape-to-tape breakout passes. How does scratching Mason Raymond or playing him on the fourth line do the team any good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opmac Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 just saying we have other guys on this team that can do it standing up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kesler_smash Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 I'm no Raymond lover but the 200 people on here who have their lineups for game 1 without him are delusional. The coach has started him in pretty much every game so on the coaches depth chart obviously Raymond is above CDC's mancrush Bitz or Weise. I know all you CDC members are former NHL coaches so you obviously know which players bring more to the lineup but AV clearly disagrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day one Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 I'm sure he does also: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schneider Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 raymond should either pick up his game or quit and be a stay at home dad not hating on him btw GO GO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigs Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Im a little worry about the 2nd line. But in order for Raymond to have success, he needs to use all of his speed. Espeicially against the LA D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Raymond should start on the 2nd because it may not be an issue for the 1st round. He may play well or not and the Nucks should still win regardless, if the rest of the team performs. AV should save his changes for later. No need to play all of your cards now, save them for when they are needed to give the team a boost. If we get down in a series, a bad game, or lose two in a row, then by all means get Raymond out of there to spark the others. Until then, let's see if it's even an issue. Raymond may have the series of his career. We're about to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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