It's Bieksa's Fault Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Your options missed out on the coaching. AV has one approach: cautious, defensive, dump and chase and let the Sedins cycle. He is not a gambler and the other teams know his system. The players try to play in his system and hope their talent level and work ethic will make the difference. Coach needs to change his tactics and not be so predictible. He needs several tactics and he needs to make changes when one of them isn't working. His stubborness will never allow the Canucks to win a Stanley. I regret that he has gotten himself a contract extention for 3 years, about the time of our window for Lord Stanley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RXnucks975 Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 could use a veteran center who can play in a top 6 role and bring some leadership...is Brendan Morrison still available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sedated Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 We have regular season offense. But anyone who says "our offense has been fine!" needs to realize it has not been fine in the playoffs. It's especially frustrating when Tampha lights up Boston the series before. Or how Nashville got lit up the series before. We lack the grit and garbage goal type of plays because we do not take it to the net, the twins are perimeter players, and Kesler and his line are more off the rush. Our big problem is secondary scoring, which would stem from the second line almost directly. Sorry, but one good series from Kesler doesn't cancel out the fact the rest of the time he has been mediocre with scoring. We also suck at clutch goals, like when we have to pull the goalie to try and get a goal. From like the past few years, I can only remember a very tiny amount of times we've even gotten a good chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiun Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 We have regular season offense. But anyone who says "our offense has been fine!" needs to realize it has not been fine in the playoffs. It's especially frustrating when Tampha lights up Boston the series before. Or how Nashville got lit up the series before. We lack the grit and garbage goal type of plays because we do not take it to the net, the twins are perimeter players, and Kesler and his line are more off the rush. Our big problem is secondary scoring, which would stem from the second line almost directly. Sorry, but one good series from Kesler doesn't cancel out the fact the rest of the time he has been mediocre with scoring. We also suck at clutch goals, like when we have to pull the goalie to try and get a goal. From like the past few years, I can only remember a very tiny amount of times we've even gotten a good chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L'Orange Posted July 12, 2012 Author Share Posted July 12, 2012 I think our problems aren't the players we have, it's the system they are being made to play in. It needs to be changed. Every team has figured out how to play against us: take away the breakout pass, force us to chip-and-chase, and then be really aggressive on the backcheck. It's shutting our offense down in a big way. That's what the Kings did, that's what the Bruins did, that's what a lot of teams during the regular season did. That's why we ended up with some of our star players on huge scoring droughts.. couldn't build any pressure in the offensive zone, because our offensive strategy was being crushed. AV has been a great coach for us, but I really think we need to bring someone else in, just to change up the system if he won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L'Orange Posted July 12, 2012 Author Share Posted July 12, 2012 I love Hansen, but elite forward? The problem is that our management has invested our energies into tweeners hoping they would magically pan out, such as Raymond, Booth, and Bernier. Meanwhile, we give up so easily on players with more potential (Hodgson, Grabner) or players with a proven track record (Samuelsson) In addition, management put far too much faith into Kesler's offensive abilities where he got most of his points on the powerplay in his breakout season (an Ehrhoff QB'ed PP). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L'Orange Posted July 12, 2012 Author Share Posted July 12, 2012 Your options missed out on the coaching. AV has one approach: cautious, defensive, dump and chase and let the Sedins cycle. He is not a gambler and the other teams know his system. The players try to play in his system and hope their talent level and work ethic will make the difference. Coach needs to change his tactics and not be so predictible. He needs several tactics and he needs to make changes when one of them isn't working. His stubborness will never allow the Canucks to win a Stanley. I regret that he has gotten himself a contract extention for 3 years, about the time of our window for Lord Stanley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L'Orange Posted July 12, 2012 Author Share Posted July 12, 2012 Offensive woes? We've finished 2nd, 1st and 5th in scoring the last 3 years. We've scored more goals than any other team in that span. Yet somehow we have "offensive woes" because we got shutdown by the Conn Smyth winner in 1 5-game series? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L'Orange Posted July 12, 2012 Author Share Posted July 12, 2012 I think you are on to something here, I hope this isn't the case in the long run though because it is obviously the hardest thing to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TowelPower12 Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 In the regular season. Our offensive output against LA and Boston did not reflect our regular season prowess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L'Orange Posted July 12, 2012 Author Share Posted July 12, 2012 Because we went against 2 conn-smythe winning goalies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Bieksa's Fault Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 But we had two Art Ross winners, one Hart winner, and a Selke winner. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANGO Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Stop worring about the Presidents cup. A healthy team and a division title is all we need. Im tired of hearing that our players are too banged up for a cup run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TowelPower12 Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Stop worring about the Presidents cup. A healthy team and a division title is all we need. Im tired of hearing that our players are too banged up for a cup run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyHobo73 Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Score more goals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 HANSEN ON THE SECOND LINE WITH PP TIME ALL SEASON LONG!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnsey Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 a mix of a lot of that: top 6 guy for the 2nd line. (Doan type player ) Bring up prospects (that are ready) Tough players for the 4th line Test/try a variety of plays to keep opposition guessing what we'll do We really need the top 6 guy. Once we have that i'll be much happier with the team, but obviously if all the above can happen and the team as a whole improves we take a big step closer to the cup... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradinToSmyl Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 They think we have "scoring woes" when the truth is key injuries was the real problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradinToSmyl Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Don't even need that, Kings just showed that 8th place is all you need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 How dare you discuss injuries, obviously the lack of offence is the fault of the coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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