canuckbeliever Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 For those of you that are unaware, there is a bitter battkle going between the SFU Teaching Assistants/Sessional Instructors union (TSSU) and SFU. TSSU wants more money, SFU will not give it so they have decided to go on strike There has been escalating action in last 2 months and it is getting serious now. There is strong sspeculation among TA's that the union is going to go to a pass fail system for grades. So basically at the end of the semester, students will not get an actual GPA rather a pass or fail with there GPA staying stagnant at whatever it was. This causes issues for those of us working our tails off this semester trying to get our GPA up because all of that effort will not accredited. Rather the cumulative GPA will be the same as what it was at end of last semester. The only thing that might save this from happening is if students decide to sue the university. One of my professors was telling me that he thinks SFU will cave in or work out a deal simply because SFU students would have a real case and would probably win any lawsuit that they threw to try toget their grades. He thinks SFU lawyers will realize the possibility for them to get burnt in any lawsuit thrown there way and as a result they will have to work out a deal. The basis for the lawsuit would be students saying there is an implied contract when we give our money to SFU. We give them money for them to give us grades and simply going to a pass fail system doesnt constitute as an actual grade I need your folks opinion. Do you think students at SFU could win if they decided to sued the university for not getting there grades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkeeterHansen Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 For those of you that are unaware, there is a bitter battkle going between the SFU Teaching Assistants/Sessional Instructors union (TSSU) and SFU. TSSU wants more money, SFU will not give it so they have decided to go on strike There has been escalating action in last 2 months and it is getting serious now. There is strong sspeculation among TA's that the union is going to go to a pass fail system for grades. So basically at the end of the semester, students will not get an actual GPA rather a pass or fail with there GPA staying stagnant at whatever it was. This causes issues for those of us working our tails off this semester trying to get our GPA up because all of that effort will not accredited. Rather the cumulative GPA will be the same as what it was at end of last semester. The only thing that might save this from happening is if students decide to sue the university. One of my professors was telling me that he thinks SFU will cave in or work out a deal simply because SFU students would have a real case and would probably win any lawsuit that they threw to try toget their grades. He thinks SFU lawyers will realize the possibility for them to get burnt in any lawsuit thrown there way and as a result they will have to work out a deal. The basis for the lawsuit would be students saying there is an implied contract when we give our money to SFU. We give them money for them to give us grades and simply going to a pass fail system doesnt constitute as an actual grade I need your folks opinion. Do you think students at SFU could win if they decided to sue the university for not getting there grades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigs Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I need your folks opinion. Do you think students at SFU could win if they decided to sued the university for not getting there grades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksSayEh Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 If you got the right guy to do it then i don't see why not. You are paying ( a lot ) for a service that is sub par and can have negative impact on your future. If enrolling in school is any kind of a contract where you are held to certain standards, so should they. Very different but same principle as a teacher harassing a student, they have certain obligations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offensive Threat Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 My sister is in Human resources at the office of faculty relations at UBC. She works directly with the Lawyers there and they are all following this situation very closely. The overall belief there is that the TSSU is going to be the first to blink. If your thinking about taking legal action against the University the first course of action is always to go on message boards to talk to a bunch of nobodies about it. How bout this: If you think your situation is actionable consult a lawyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Get a legal opinion from an experienced lawyer that you pay for said opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksSayEh Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 If you win, we should use it as precedent to sue the NHL & NHLPA for the the lockout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklax Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 If you win, we should use it as precedent to sue the NHL & NHLPA for the the lockout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonMexico Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Not the same, we don't get graded for being fans. University is a means to an end to a better life, watching hockey is what people do on weekends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklax Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 You mean like spending 4 plus years to get a degree that is required for an entry level job making minimum wage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I'm not going to be working at starbucks once I have my degree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Lawyers always want money... when it's available. Perhaps this thread should not have hinted that there was perhaps money available, then they are relative knights in shining armour, fighting on behalf of the common man for the greater good. I cannot help you, but i certainly am sick of seeing students being used as pawns in labour disputes. Hopefully students' rights won't be ignored forever. Perhaps a shining knight lawyer will take up that cause and stoke up a class-action suit while they're at it. Sadly, more will be said about this than done, as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklax Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 And so many say that but then reality intrudes. You may be correct however and you will not work at Starbucks but consider practising this marketing phrase - "Can I upsize that meal for you?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckbeliever Posted November 14, 2012 Author Share Posted November 14, 2012 I personally would not touch a lawsuit. I do not have the effort or time or money to organize it . I think it will work itself out at some point. I just needed an opinion from others to know if they think this is even possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOB for MVP Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Students would not win, dont bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 I personally would not touch a lawsuit. I do not have the effort or time or money to organize it . I think it will work itself out at some point. I just needed an opinion from others to know if they think this is even possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imuzi Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 What wrong with working at Starbucks? Damn Yuppies. 1000th Post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 What wrong with working at Starbucks? Damn Yuppies. 1000th Post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Alexander Cody Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 The only issue students are having right now are getting their grades back and some students wishing classes weren't cancelled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklax Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 What wrong with working at Starbucks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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