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Sedins and Burrows have had the bet plus/minus in the last four years


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#1 hockeyfan90

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 08:06 PM

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Alex Semin is +103 including this season & previous 4 seasons. That's 4th best amongst forwards in that time. Sedins & Burrows only better

Well done guys! Those three together are an awesome line and should be kept together! They complement each other so well and Burrows is like the perfect fit for that line.

Edited by hockeyfan90, 16 February 2013 - 08:21 PM.

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#2 SkeeterHansen

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 08:08 PM

Craig Button@CraigJButton
Alex Semin is +103 including this season & previous 4 seasons. That's 4th best amongst forwards in that time. Sedins & Burrows only better

Well done guys! Those three together are an awesome like and should be kept together! They complement each other so well and Burrows is like the perfect fit for that line.


Wow. Never knew that, that's great.
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 08:13 PM

I know a high plus/minus doesn't mean you are a good defensive player but I think that Semin is underrated defensively...Wasn't he used on the PK by Bruce Bordreau?
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 09:01 PM

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 09:13 PM

Alexander Semin? More like Alexander 'Semen', amirite?

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 09:19 PM

Heard this on NHL Network the other day, pretty impressive.
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 09:21 PM

Alexander Cement? That high?
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 09:58 PM

I know a high plus/minus doesn't mean you are a good defensive player but I think that Semin is underrated defensively...Wasn't he used on the PK by Bruce Bordreau?


Yes he was, if I'm not wrong he asked to be used on the PK.
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 10:39 PM

I know a high plus/minus doesn't mean you are a good defensive player but I think that Semin is underrated defensively...Wasn't he used on the PK by Bruce Bordreau?


Semin is underrated. He's better defensively than anyone give his credit for. He's got a rep as a lazy player, but its mostly unfounded.

No surprise the Sedins and Burrows are at the top. They have been absolutely dominant; score a ton more goals than against.
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 11:02 PM

No surprise with the twins and Burr..but Semin...like, wow! All the haters will have to figure out what to say about him now!
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 11:04 PM

That's amazing! Shows how dominant they are on the ice.
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 11:07 PM

It makes me wonder why there are threads like "who can we put with the sedins" and "why can't the sedins have a good linemate" and my favorite "sedins and burrows, whhhhhy!?" This line is one of the tops in the league, and that won't change until they retire
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 12:13 AM

Trade the Sisters already.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 12:36 AM

So wait if a GM or old GM or whatever he is mentions that THIS that the Sedins & Semin are the best +/- players in the NHL since the turn to 2000 that means together they could probably be the best two-way line ever since 2000. So why doesnt GMMG make a tradde for Semin? Sedin - Sedin - Semin wow their names are nearly the same also he's basically the 3rd Sedin and has a unreal goal scoring potential plus decent playoff numbers. if he doesn't re-sign with JIMMY rutherford I hope he becomes a canuck, spending some time iwth KEsler and sometime with HENRIK will make his goal totals shoooot thru the roof. I bet Semin could win the rr trophy is he played on the Sedin PP. Luongo for Semin? Cam Ward has been okay but he's no LUUUU.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 01:56 AM

cool stats
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 02:13 AM

I strongly doubt the accuracy of this post.

I agree the Sedins might be up there (not sure they are top 4 but would be close), but there is now way Burrows is.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 02:18 AM

I can't recall seeing these Canucks being in the top +/- stats over the last couple of years..........there is absolutely no way this is true.

If Semin is a +103 over the last 4 years, that would equate to a +30 per season (this year is a shortened one).

First of all, I highly doubt that he is ..............second of all, how could Burrows possibly be higher than that?
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 03:08 AM

It's easy enough to look at their stats.

In 2008-9 Daniel was +24, Henrik +22, Burrows +23
2009-10: 36, 35, 34 respectively
2010-11: 30, 26, 26
2011-12: 14, 23, 24
2013: 5, 9, 2

So Daniel is is +109 in that time, Henrik +115, Burrows +109
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 03:48 AM

This stat would be much more impressive if it werent for zone start stats.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 07:31 AM

^ he kinda has a point plus minus to me is more about puck possession, one must remember that there are 2 sides to +\-

But either way it means the same and it says a lot about the Sedins and burrows.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 08:13 AM

Semin is a far better defensive player than the Sedins, but probably not as good as Burrows. Watching him play, he's got a great stick and always comes all the way back to collect his check - something he never did at the start of his career. The reason for the twins high +/- is all the time they spend cycling the puck and dominating in the offensive zone - they don't actually spend much time defending because their offence is so good, but when it does come time to defend they're definately not the best at it.

Meanwhile Semin started his career terribly defensively and was always called out for it. A combined -20 in his first 3 seasons is bad considering he was a scoring machine. Then he had a +25, +36, +22, +9 and now an amazing +11 in 13 games played.

I've always thought Semin was one of the more underated players in the league and doesn't get enough credit for what he does and brings to a team. Everyone harps on the fact that he's Russian, doesn't play with heart and is a locker room cancer but just look at what he does on the ice. He is IMO the biggest reason for Eric Staal and Carolina's success right now - without Semin that team would not be anywhere as strong as they are right now.

I thought the Canucks should of gone after him to play with Kesler and even the Sedins on the PP at times to give us the single most skilled line in the NHL. Honestly, who cares if he's a "locker room cancer" if he's playing well with his linemates, scoring goals, playing solid defence and most importantly winning his team games. Carolina look pretty happy having him there now, and Washington are wishing they could have him back now.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 12:00 PM

Evidence that the Sedins don't just feed off of PPs, as many fans of other Northwest division teams tend to argue.
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OMG we could've had McKeown!

I think Virtanen was a terrible pick given that he's out for 6 months which will hinder his development. You don't pick someone at #6 under that circumstance, along with the fact that he was given a 3/5 IQ (aka he's dumb). 

God dammit Benning. WHY VIRTANEN? Terrible move.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 12:35 PM

See Sedins +/- in our playoff run to the finals.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 01:09 PM

I can't recall seeing these Canucks being in the top +/- stats over the last couple of years..........there is absolutely no way this is true.

If Semin is a +103 over the last 4 years, that would equate to a +30 per season (this year is a shortened one).

First of all, I highly doubt that he is ..............second of all, how could Burrows possibly be higher than that?


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Posted 17 February 2013 - 01:38 PM

I can't recall seeing these Canucks being in the top +/- stats over the last couple of years..........there is absolutely no way this is true.

If Semin is a +103 over the last 4 years, that would equate to a +30 per season (this year is a shortened one).

First of all, I highly doubt that he is ..............second of all, how could Burrows possibly be higher than that?


If you count from 2008-09 to present:

D. Sedin: +109
H. Sedin: +115
A. Burrows +109
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OMG we could've had McKeown!

I think Virtanen was a terrible pick given that he's out for 6 months which will hinder his development. You don't pick someone at #6 under that circumstance, along with the fact that he was given a 3/5 IQ (aka he's dumb). 

God dammit Benning. WHY VIRTANEN? Terrible move.

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