[[Trade] Canucks trade Jay Beagle, Loui Eriksson, Antoine Roussel, 2021 1st-round pick, 2022 2nd-round pick, 2023 7th-round pick to Coyotes for Oliver Ekman-Larsson, Conor Garland]

1 minute ago, Maginator said:

If he plays to Edlers level in year 6 then it's a win. I'm sure he can do that.

Bingo. That's what I've been saying...better, more consistent, inflation then a flat cap all make this contract look worse than it is.

[[Trade] Canucks Trade for Dickinson from DAL for a 3rd.]

I still feel like this is a pay Seattle to take cap space scenario. There's no one on that unprotected list worth losing sleep over losing. Should be easy enough. I'm glad our team has been positioned well enough not to lose an important piece.

[[Trade] Canucks Trade for Dickinson from DAL for a 3rd.]

Since somehow this thread got de-railed into talking about finding a hard hitting defenseman, how far off is Jett Woo? I always thought him being NHL read would be the perfect partner for Hughes.

[[Rumour] Gabriel Landeskog seeking 9-10 million on next deal.]

When there gets to be an ask like this, you gotta think he doesn't wanna be there anymore. I don't care how successful Colorado has been getting. He's the captain who, if he stayed, would lose his captaincy. He's kind of lost in the shuffle. I often forget he's even an Av sometimes. Behind Mack and Ranty on the depth chart, it's easier to get lost in the shuffle. He likely has more to give than what he would be able to give in Colorado.

[[Rumour] Blackhawks working on Duncan Keith trade to Pacific Northwest or Western Canada]

He doesn't like the Canucks AT ALL! I mean MAYBE he would come here because the entire core has been turned over, but this smells more like a waiving his NMC, so Seattle selects him. He's from Winnipeg, but his home is in the Okanagan. Was at the airport in Kelowna a few years back, saw him, and he made a very sarcastic comment about the Canucks. I forget what it was, but he definitely didn't seem like he's gonna be coming to Vancouver. Maybe Edmonton? That's my guess. Edmonton or Seattle.

[[Speculation] Is Schmidt on the move?]

So just assuming Nate Schmidt was on the move and the team didn't gel with him, trading him creates a hole on the back end we would have to hope Juolevi and Rathbone could fill. Edler may not even be coming back and even if he did, he's not gonna chew up the minutes he used to. Schmiddty playing the left side would be extremely important. Plus you have to lock up Quinn Hughes first, otherwise his contract could cost just as much as Jones'.

[[Rumour] Sam Reinhart open to a trade back to West Coast]

If we have a high pick that isn't being used on a defenseman, trading it for Sam Reinhart might be in the cards.

[[Trade] Blackhawks trade Madison Bowey, 2021 5th-round pick to Canucks for 2021 4th-round pick]

42 minutes ago, aGENT said:

Myers didn't have Tanev's injury history, which is very much the source of concern with his contract length. 

Funny though, how Tanev's injuries went down when Myers got signed. Could it be he was playing too many hard minutes all himself...?

[[Signing] Canucks re-sign Tanner Pearson]

19 hours ago, Alienhuggyflow said:

Plus it looks like Beagle is done. I have a feeling a couple more contracts that end after next season get moved or bought out.

I think they're gonna try their best to move a couple first. We might see some pretty low returns.

[[Signing] Canucks re-sign Tanner Pearson]

I must point out that if Virtanen gets moved, this contract doesn't even register as a big deal. Tanner Pearson fits in with the team well. That plus let's maybe remind people how disheartened Bo was when we lost the players we lost last off season. Losing Tanner Pearson, when the contract is reasonable is not an option. 

[[Waivers] Leo Komarov]

On 3/23/2021 at 2:24 PM, Elias Pettersson said:

I’m not Jim. I’m Petey. I know you miss me. I’ll be back soon. I promise. 

I wish I could believe you...but on the off chance this actually is Petey, I hope this week off does the team well and that most of you get back and ready to go on Wednesday. Big push coming over April. My birthday is coming up and I wanna see some more Canucks playoff hockey!!

[[Waivers] Leo Komarov]

2 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said:

I'd trade Roussel for Komarov, would even throw in a 5th round pick...

Oh Jim. Don't troll the board with these posts and go do your job.

[[Signing] Blues re-sign Jordan Binnington]

I don't like long term contracts on goalies these days. It's such a tedious position. Binner is actually pretty good, but these can really screw your career. Should never be more than 3 when the AAV pops to 6.

[[Speculation] Teams Calling on Schmidt and Motte]

Schmidt hasn't been the greatest fit, but he has been better recently. There's a danger here though. Edler goes, Schmidt goes as well, our left D gets looking decidedly thin past Quinn Hughes. Jordie Benn likely won't be re-upped. Oof, our D has already sucked. I don't wish to see it unravel anymore. We need to be building it up!!!

[(Rumour) Virtanen on the trade block]

I almost dropped my phone when it said  Shotgun Jake opened the scoring tonight.

[[Rumour] Predators interested in Adam Gaudette]

Ha! They're interested because they've always been interested and think they can get him on the cheap right now because he's struggling. The Preds are dangling Ekholm out there right now because he's on IR and a great top 4, but down on the depth chart behind Josi and likely won't be moving on up in the foreseeable future. Maybe they figure they can take Jake and Adam Gaudette from us for him. We need a right hander though. I don't see a fit.

[[Trade] Hurricanes trade Gregory Hofmann’s rights to Blue Jackets for 2022 7th-round pick]

I'm interested in seeing how this one pans out. It looks like a very random move.

[[Rumour] Sam Bennett requests trade]

With Jake having a following with the Calgary Hitmen, I could see there being a want for it there. Bennett coming the other way though...that's hard to say.  I don't get the feeling he'd like Vancouver. I could see Toronto figuring something out. Maybe Bennett and a Dman go to Toronto for Nylander?

 

Yup, Hanifin and Bennett for Willie Nylander. Maybe Toronto adds a lower tier dman making a mil or so? Maybe Bogosian? Bennett would be back with Gilmour. Toronto gets that right sided top 4 guy with offensive upside and Calgary gets more scoring punch. Calgary's taxi squad has a decent amount of Dmen on it. They can handle the loss for the right thing coming back.

[[Rumour] Sam Bennett requests trade]

6 hours ago, Darksern said:

Makes a ton of sense. They can leave him in mtl and we can leave virt in the peg. 

That's almost as bad as leaving Virtanen in Edmonton...but not quite.

[[Waivers] Madison Bowey]

He used to be the Captain of the Kelowna Rockets and spent time on the World Juniors. Personally, I'm wondering where his development went wrong. This guy SHOULD have turned out.

[(Trade) Laine to CBJ - Dubois to Jets]

The trick is Laine didn't earn that 1st line spot. He should get it with Torts, but he still has to earn it. He has to know it's not gonna be gifted to him. Otherwise it's gonna be a loooong season for Patrick Laine.

[[Signing] Canucks sign Jayce Hawryluk]

1 hour ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said:

Yeah, the amount has pretty much doubled with each lockout/agreement. I believe it was around $2.5M in 2013 and somewhere around $1M in 2005.

Here's the thing though. How big would that number be if it didn't include the younger players who are in longer term contracts? Let's say longer than 2 years? That number is way overbloated with the McDavids, Matthews,  and Marners of the league. None of those guys with larger salaries ever make it to arbitration now. The last one was Shea Weber from what I remember. That goes back about 8 years or so. That rule is so outdated.

[[Signing] Canucks sign Jayce Hawryluk]

23 minutes ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said:

The only thing that changes is the specific dollar amount.

 

When "walk away rights" were introduced in 1995, the amount was $550,000.

 

from the 1995 agreement:

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12.6. Walk-Away Rights.

(a) If a Club has elected to arbitrate a one year contract,
and the award issued is for $550,000 or more per annum, then the
Club may, within 72 hours after the award of the Arbitrator is
issued (or if a Club has any other player still eligible for
salary arbitration at that time and for whom a decision has not
been rendered by an Arbitrator at that time, and the Club still
has a walk-away right available to it in such League Year
pursuant to paragraph (d) below, 72 hours after the award of the
Arbitrator for such other player is issued), notify the player,
the NHLPA and the NHL in writing that it does not intend to
tender to the player a Player Contract based on the award as
determined by the Arbitrator. Upon receipt of that notice, the
player shall automatically be deemed to be an Unrestricted Free
Agent, subject to the provisions of paragraphs (c) and (d) below.

and

(e) The dollar amount of $550,000 set forth in each of
paragraphs (a) and (b) above, shall be increased on an annual
basis at the same percentage rate of increase as the Average
League Salary, with the commencement of the 1996/97 League Year
being the first year such increase shall take effect. By way of
example, if the Average League Salary on June 30, 1996 has
increased by 10% from the Average League Salary on June 30, 1995,
then the figure of $550,000 stated in paragraphs (a) and (b)
above, shall be increased by 10% on June 30, 1996, and the
ability of a Club to walk-away from an arbitration award rendered
after June 30, 1996, shall be adjusted accordingly. For each
League Year thereafter, a similar comparison and adjustment shall
be made.
 

 

 

The walk away number "shall be increased on an annual basis at the same percentage rate of increase as the Average League Salary."

 

Today, that number is up to $4,538,958.

 

Goes to show just how much average salary has increased since 1995.

 

 

This is exactly what I mean. I didn't remember the walk away being so high. That amount is pretty high and I hope they revisit that in the next CBA. Some young players are much better coming out of the minors than they used to be in '95 and teams are locking them up to long term deals quicker. Maybe if point totals were factored into this, we could be looking at fairer cap numbers. Or just making it so teams can walk away at any number.

[[Signing] Canucks sign Jayce Hawryluk]

13 minutes ago, The Lock said:

There is nothing in that statement that says the club cannot walk away from the awarded salary if less.

I looked at this one statement from Cap Friendly. Although you're right, why put a dollar amount on the rule then. It makes no sense. It DID say clubs can not walk away from club elected arbitration. I feel like this was a change between this CBA and the last, which really sucks. Nobody is gonna want to give up anything for Virtanen with the amount of cap. We might have gotten something off Boston at one point. They have a decent amount of cap to play with, but right now, it's just kind of a crap situation. 

[[Signing] Canucks sign Jayce Hawryluk]

13 minutes ago, Wanless said:

• Player elected Arbitration Settlements of 1 year and greater than $4,538,958, Club can walk away from the awarded salary, making the player a UFA [CBA 12.10(a)]
• Player elected Arbitration Settlements of 2 years and greater than $4,538,958, Club can walk away from the second (2nd) year of the awarded salary, making the player a UFA at the end of year 1 [CBA 12.10(b)]

 

What I was getting at is Virtanen won't make over the 4.5 mil threshold for the Canucks to be able to walk away from

 

The above statement was copy and pasted from capfriendly

@Noseforthenet

They must have changed that in the last CBA then.