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1 hour ago, nux_win said:
I'm not worried about cap compliance. I like the fact that there are lots of different options and that there will be a lot of competition for spots at training camp. If that means that someone that we don't want to lose goes on waivers then so be it. That's a sign of depth and competition.
I'm more worried about our small size and lack of physicality up front. It's possible to make up for that with extra energy and aggressiveness so we have to get all our players on the same page and be aggressive as a group instead of relying on one or two "big guys" (size isn't everything but it does help at times). I think that it's possible to make a playoff team from what we have but we're going to have to up the compete level at all positions. With Tocchet at the helm, it's possible.
Surviving the playoffs is another issue, but we have to get there first.
Go Canucks Go!
Yes but it really seems like a mismatch of coaching style and team makeup.
That being said, if Podz takes a step into permanent middle six player, Mik is back and healthy and Pearson is back we have gone a long way to changing in a direction that suits the coach. Even with his diminutive size, Hogz also seems like a Toch kind of player.-
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I think he has a deal in place for mid-September.
I suspect bigger than one giant D going out, suspect one little winger goes with him.Otherwise we will probably see another training camp deal like last year, which is probably the worst deal he has made other than waisting assets on Studnicka.
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Don’t think it really matters to much anymore, it is more the extra press that is the main component.
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4 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said:
Heard thru the grapevine that he has been hitting the gym hard and is closer to 195lbs as compared to the 182lbs he was listed.
Size and Speed never hurt anyone...lol
Well speed never does but don’t forget the golden Brent.
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5 minutes ago, -AJ- said:
Petey always looks jacked, but still ends up at like 180lbs. I think he's just extremely well toned. Low body fat %. Reminds me of the twins a bit.
Twins were a bit thicker and squarer in the shoulders.
Elias has a little more sloped shoulders and a more slender build.
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We could definitely use a right shot centre but Sutter isn’t it.
Do we even have a right hand centre in the organization?
He may be fine in a fourth line role, he was never better than that with us.
Would rather see a younger player on that role.Lineup keep looking better on paper, ideally need to lose 2 wingers under 5’10”, find at least a depth right shooting centre, and loose a third pairing right D but there are no perfect lineups in the NHL.
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8 minutes ago, JamesB said:
Exactly the same thoughts went through my mind when I heard about the move.
I like the signing, but there must be a plan in place to create cap space and it is pretty certain that part of that plan is that Poolman stays on LTIR.
The simplest solution for the rest is that Pearson starts the season on LTIR.
Otherwise I think moving Myers is the next most likely option. That is why we have not heard about it yet --because we have wait until his bonus is paid on Sept. 15.
The third option is to trade a winger. But that won't be easy as the Canucks will need to retain salary or include a draft pick of other asset to make it work.
All appearances are that Pearson will be healthy so wouldn’t bet on that.
Frankly we could use him too. We don’t have enough players that go to the net and provide some grit and he can do that.
Pearson-Sutter-Garland/Podz could be a pretty decent third line.
Personally would like to see Podz with JTM and Brock. -
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42 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said:Yep big question is what do we do if Pearson is healthy and ready to play? I don't see Poolman coming off LTIR any time soon.
Without Pearson though our lineup looks pretty solid:
Mikheyev - Pettersson - Kuzmenko
Beauvillier - Miller - Boeser
Hoglander - Suter - Garland
Joshua - Blueger - Aman
PDG
I don’t think a coach like Toch is going to play a third line that averages 5’9”.
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Great add. Must be a deal on place to move some cap, we are way over.
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10 minutes ago, King Heffy said:
Well he was clearly afraid of being punched in the face.
Not enough to stop the cheap shots which was my original point.
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1 hour ago, King Heffy said:
Then explain why cowards like Tkachuk turtle when it's time to answer the bell.
After the play is over and he already pulled his shit. Yeah real deterrent.
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Goons don't stop illegal or ill advised hits, they usually initiate them.
I haven't believed the theory that having a goon keeps people honest in over a decade. The game is too fast and when these things happen they happen so fast the player isn't thinking oh there is a big guy that is going to punch me for a few seconds if I do this.
I also don't think the threat of getting punched a few times is really all that scary to any pro hockey player.
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4 hours ago, EastCoastNucks said:
Wolanin was successful because he had Woo. Myers needs a Woo type but so does Hughes and Hronek. I think we have more defensive options than we have ever had in 5 years.
Wolanin will not be successful with Myers. nor Hronek, or Hughes. You cant have two offensive d on the same pairing and expect anything but a -16 or more lol.
Myers needs Soucy.
Hronek needs Woo.
Hughes and Cole is cool cool cool.
I think you have that backwards. Wolanin was the top D in the AHL , he elevated Woo who up until last season was barely a depth AHL guy.
Woo deserves credit for how much he improved last year but he isn’t the reason Wolanin was so good.
Woo is finally looking like a solid AHL defenceman but it is a big jump from there to NHL regular, just ask Breezy and Juulsen.
Matt Irwin will be on the team. He was brought in because he is a very effective penalty killer. He will be in the NHL all season, may not play every night but will be there.
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Woohoo. I am 100% on both.
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22 minutes ago, smithers joe said:
i think to some of these cults that can get members to take poison or kill themselves or others as being rational? i remember one group that did end their lives because they were told about what would happen to the world when haley's comet appeared again. gullible, brain washed or mentally weak?
Jonestown massacre killed 900 people. Jim Jones got them to drink the kool-aide killing all of them.
Similar the Branch Dividians in Waco. I am sure there are innumerable more. -
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1 hour ago, IBatch said:
Yikes. Not very good is a bit of a bad take. Guy just had terrible injury luck. Was never injured before he played with us. Then got the "Sami Salo" bug and that was it. Just like Salo, when he played our winning percentage went up.
Brandon Sutter was a very good defensive forward. Maybe people expected Kesler, but let's be real. That's not realistic. Just like when Edler and Tanev went down, same when Sutter was down too. Our PK has sucked since he left. Hope he has some game left in him.
That’s your opinion. He was paid to produce and be foundational. He didn’t produce and wasn’t that good defensively or really all that physical. He was bad with the young players.
He was big, right handed and good at face offs and provide a small amount of physical play. He was behind the play frequently and was where offence went to die.
He was a decent 4th line C getting paid a fortune and crapping on our youth.
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Hope a couple years have healed up his body because he was always injured with us before he got COVID.
Never thought he was very good. Hope he is not very good in Edmonton.-
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51 minutes ago, Devron said:
There’s mental illness then there’s this. I don’t think they should be grouped together personally.
I have dealt with alot of depression and anxiety in my life. I think most of the population deals with some sort of mental health problems at some point in their lives. It’s crucial we all take care of ourselves.
That said, this is psychotic. These people just weren’t born with the ability to feel. Unfortunately like pedos they shouldn’t be in society. I believe some people are just vessels. Soulless if you will
This isn't a psychopath, a term not actually used anymore, it is a psychosis. Those are very different things.
What we think of as a psychopath is someone who holds no value for life, in particular human life.
Psychosis are florid episodes that disconnect a person from reality and often happen in episodes. They sometimes happen later in life but usually presentation starts around early 20s. These poor people are often driven by hallucinations and fixed beliefs that make no sense to anyone but are very real to them. The person is often not under control they frequently have uncontrollable visions and hallucinations often compelling them to do things they would never do outside of the psychosis. Now some people think this is a weakness in character but that isn't what is happening.
This person that Joe started the conversation about sounds like a good kind person that something happened to. That being said, what we think of as psychopaths often will seem that way but there is something dark lurking behind. These are criminal acts, psychosis should not be though many on this board think we should go back to locking up anyone with a history or potential for psychosis.
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1 hour ago, PhillipBlunt said:
Of course. You work in the field. Now it all makes sense.
Your career is dependent on it. You don't have to live the life the poor surviving son has to, so it's no skin off of your back. How else would you continue to get funding from the government? Interesting how the lives that were lost senselessly don't factor into your comments at all, as if they're merely a footnote in the realm of mental illness.
For you, it's about the person suffering the mental illness, and not the lives wiped out by the psychotic break.
Your statement about prejudice preventing people from seeking help is an excuse, which is par for the course really. There's never been a time in history when less stigma has been attached to mental illness than now. The problem is that, even with all the funding and research, mental illness is still rampant throughout society and getting worse, and the medical community isn't stemming the tide in the least. The amount of people I've heard who feel completely unsupported by the medical/mental health community is startling.
But when it comes to finding a scapegoat, well, you're an expert at that.
You are quick to spread your prejudices to anyone who disagrees with you. Amazing how quickly you can discard experience and expertise if it suits you.
You are both callous and uninformed.
I never said I didn't feel for the victims I absolutely do. I think the act was terrible but creating more victims does not solve it.
You can't comprehend the mental health side and assume that anyone in the field can't have a valid opinion because it doesn't line up with yours. This is a great example of how internet bullies work.
Let's take a look at it from a non-health care aspect. Jail is meant as rehabilitation, it isn't, but that is what it is meant for. How much rehabilitation does someone in a florid psychosis need. What is the appropriate punishment for being in a florid psychosis. You want to criminalize mental illness, what is appropriate punishment for someone who is depressed? Bipolar?, clearly you feel anyone with schizophrenia should be locked up for life because something may happen.
Your solution is to take a tragedy, toss a mentally ill person in jail to live off taxpayers forever and wash your hands of the problem. You have solved nothing, created a travesty of justice and burned a tonne of money. Nobody is back alive, nobody is rehabilitated. All you have is another person that is locked up for mental illness and those that have prejudices like yours feel justified but you have changed and helped nothing.
The only point you have made that is correct is that the mental health system is strained beyond belief in Canada and the pandemic made it much worse. Luckily you have a solution, the criminal justice system.
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4 minutes ago, Alflives said:
And that’s why we have a guy who literally sliced a man’s head off and started eating it (on a bus) go free after less than 10 years in a cozy mental hospital for doing that. Just hang these bastards! We are too soft!
That is a completely different case involving bath salts. Now I agree he chose to take the bath salts, he should be responsible for his actions. Letting him out in 10 years is a travesty.
The death penalty for the insane that is getting spewed above though doesn’t seem reasonable outside of authoritative fascist governments.-
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44 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:
This is complete crap and you know it. The guy literally slaughtered his entire family and you are going after a poster for giving judgement on that? I don't care if he had a mental problem. He slaughtered his entire family and gets no sympathy from me or from ALOT of other people.
It's so easy for society to make excuses for this kind of stuff. He had a mental problem so he was found not of the right mind and therefore gets off from being called a murderer. That is weak. Also, how do you know he didn't actually decide to kill his family? Do you know exactly what was going through his mind at the time he decided to slaughter them? He lost connection with reality? How exactly is this determined?
52 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said:I have. I know plenty of people with mental illness and none of them have ever slaughtered their family. He did murder his family, regardless of your spineless wording, that seemingly tiptoes around that fact.
I feel for anyone suffering through a mental illness up until the point where their illness has a negative effect on someone else's existence in a permanent way. You're actually worried about someone "belittling" a person who murdered the majority of his family?
And the statement that "prejudice" reduces the chances of identifying people who could have a psychotic break couldn't be further from the truth. That's deflection. Someone not feeling a sense of empathy towards a murderer isn't the issue. The reduction in the chances to identify those potentially suffering a psychotic break rests on the shoulders of the medical community who exists to find solutions, yet far too many actually exist.
Actually this is not crap. I have a lot of experience working in the field but expertise doesn’t matter up against these prejudices.
Mental illnesses vary in severity and grade and this is very severe.
You have your opinion and is just filled with an abundance of prejudices and assumptions.
To come out and say that though you know nothing specifically here but because, you know people with mental illness that don’t kill people, it is clearly a defect in his character is clearly a derogatory prejudiced statement that doesn’t ignore the facts, it completely disregards a need for them. You decided on what you think of the person and yell your opinion until everyone agrees. I don’t agree. I am a part of the medical community. I work with serious mental illness every day and I have seen people teeter on this brink. Now again I know experience and knowledge are nothing in the face of internet experts who eschew knowledge for their predetermined outcomes.
Your comment about about mental health problems being okay until they effect other people is an absolute farcical self own and shows how little you know while spewing your expert opinion.
Prejudice against people with mental health problems keeps them from seeking help every day, preventing the potential identification of people at risk for these kinds of psychosis. Depending on pre morbid conditions too something as simple as UTI can cause a delirium which can lead to tragic consequences. This isn’t a stretch it is well understood.
You don’t know the situation here but have no problem condemning someone.-
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15 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said:
Yet there are many people who have mental health issues who never resort to such depravity. Who realize that their personal suffering shouldn't have an effect on others.
I'm blaming the person for taking the lives of his wife and children. The fact that you can't make that distinction is truly sad, as is your need to excuse the murder and to call someone reprehensible for not wanting to show sympathy to a murderer.
Maybe you actually need to see serious mental health issues in action to understand because all you are giving is judgement with no understanding of what you are talking about.
He is not a convicted murderer. He was found to be not of the right mind to make that kind of choice and was sent for treatment not jail.
This wasn't someone who decided "hey I am sad I am going to go kill my family," this is someone who lost connection with reality.
Prejudice like yours is very common when dealing with mental health disorders and it is tragic and leads to ongoing belittling and blaming someone in a situation out of their control and reduces our chances to identify people at risk of this kind of break and intervening before the tragedy.
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[Trade] Canadiens trade Jeff Petry to Red Wings for Gustav Lindstrom, conditional 2025 4th-round pick
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They can recoup some assets if they suck. Can probably get at least what they gave at the deadline especially with a second tier of retention.