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    [PGT] Nashville Predators at Vancouver Canucks | Mar. 06, 2023

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    55 minutes ago, jyu said:

    They were not easy picks. Hindsight is always 20/20. 

    I’ll just put one quote here:

    “That’s a small body”

     - Burke

    Hughes was highly, highly rated. They were both projected top 10 if I'm not mistaken.  People like to think Pettersson was some unknown or dark horse...he wasn't....he was on pretty much every scouts and analysts draft board top 10 near the draft. They were good picks, but they weren't wizardry or off the board miracles.

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    [PGT] Nashville Predators at Vancouver Canucks | Mar. 06, 2023

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    49 minutes ago, jyu said:

    About the other point regarding benning’s seven years, yeah i don’t think he did a great job and that’s why he’s gone. 
     

    But he did do good as well. Two major goods were petey and hughes. There are others. For example developing Horvat under Sutter and Beagle — putting aside their overpaid salaries, those guys took on the hard minutes. And there’s also development of Marky behind Miller and subsequently Demko behind Marky. 
     

    And of course, there are many bad moves as well. His biggest downfall was the lenient management of the cap space. It caught up to him eventually and forced him into making ill advised moves.  OEL was a terrible move as well. All of it stemming from his lenient use of cap space. 

    I agree his stamp is definitely on the team, no GM has a perfect record at the end of the day. 

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    [PGT] Nashville Predators at Vancouver Canucks | Mar. 06, 2023

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    Posted · Edited by Harold Drunken

    5 hours ago, jyu said:

    I don't know. As a Canucks fan, I feel thankful to him for drafting Pettersson, Hughes, and Demko.

     

    I watch the games just to see the three of them perform magic every night.

     

    Let's not sit here ans act like Pettersson and Hughes were some diamond in the rough scouting wizardry...they were pretty obvious picks. Benning was the GM for 7 years, if all we can thank him for is 2 top 10 picks and a goalie its kinda just proving the original point. If you add up how many picks in his 7 year run are on the team its not impressive, at all.

    Wow! Wtf?

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    Posted · Edited by Harold Drunken

    On 3/6/2023 at 10:17 PM, Bob.Loblaw said:

    Nothing is more dangerous than a non-playoff Canucks team in March 

    Canucks in March 20 pts out of a playoff spot.....

     

    the mighty ducks yes GIF

     

    It's sadly and horrifyingly becoming increasingly clear that the Oilers are the western favourites, probably even cup favourites

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    6 hours ago, IBatch said:

    Not so sure.   Whomever makes it out of the East could be limping by then.   Expecting a six game series .... could go either way but yes the East is loaded up and a total Beast.    Like it was in the early 90's.  

    Very good point, there are going to be some very intense competitive series out east. Colorado is going to get healthy...I would not bet against them again.

    [PGT] Nashville Predators at Vancouver Canucks | Mar. 06, 2023

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    Posted · Edited by Harold Drunken

    3 hours ago, stawns said:

    C'mon, do you really believe anything coming out of the mouths of this management group?  

    To be fair, in large part they have done most things they said they were going to do....

     

    Acquire players 25 or younger - done

    Acquire RHD defenseman 25 or younger - done

    Aquire picks/prospects - Done - with a caveat of using them to acquire young RHD

     

    What they haven't done yet is create cap space - they did but then they acquired Hronek which achieved something they said they were going to do but also canceled out one of these thigs (cap space). The cap space will be on off season task i'm sure. It's really tough to do one thing in  this league without sacrificing the other, acquiring young RHD while not giving away picks or blue chip prospects is pretty much impossible. 

     

    We can't improve the blueline without  giving anything up....some want to improve the blueline but also keep all our picks and young players....doesn't work that way.

    [PGT] Nashville Predators at Vancouver Canucks | Mar. 06, 2023

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    3 hours ago, stawns said:

    How is that the lesser of two evils?  OEL will be back to being a solid dman now that they have a good defensive system and demko back.  Hard to be effective when there is no defensive structure and your goalies combined save % is in the .880's.

     

    OEL was bad in Arizona too, he was bad here and he still is that's 3 coaches. His game has fallen off, his underlying and obvious  numbers are terrible and this blueline does not look worse without him....he has the worst +/- on the team.... That's my point. I don't know why it's so hard for some fans to admit he's just not anywhere near the player he used to be, and having a roster spot open for someone else to complete and play isn't a bad thing. You have to earn the spot, and if someone is playing better than him they should play, pure and simple. 

     

    I do agree, having Demko back will help and seemingly better structure under Tocchet...but that's just masking the problem of him not playing well at all. 

    [PGT] Nashville Predators at Vancouver Canucks | Mar. 06, 2023

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    Posted · Edited by Harold Drunken

    11 minutes ago, ilduce39 said:

    8 years of dead cap penalties.

    At what point do you choose the lesser of two evils though? There's con's to not buying him out too. 

     

    If a more serviceable or effective player could take his roster spot for less money, then why keep him on the team. He's not playing anywhere near an $8m dollar player. Brisbois looks like a better player right now for christ sake lol. OEL underlying numbers are terrible too, so if someone else could take his spot why wouldn't you? You shouldn't force a player into a roster spot just because they are expensive. If they hurt the team, they shouldn't be on it. Our blueline has looked just fine without him.....ACTUALLY they've looked better.

     

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    [PGT] Nashville Predators at Vancouver Canucks | Mar. 06, 2023

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    48 minutes ago, DrJockitch said:

    And the key point of my argument is that though we are making better trades to rush things, we are still following the same plan just with a moderate increase in competence. 

    IMO just because Benning couldn't do it doesn't mean JR/PA can't. Benning made a lot of poor trades and FA signings that handcuffed this team long term, when people compare what Benning did and say he tried it so it can't be done is a lack of logic. I have more faith that someone with Rutherford's resume can do it than Benning. 

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    [GDT] Nashville Predators at Vancouver Canucks | Mar. 06, 2023 | 7:30 pm PT | Sportsnet Pacific

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    Just now, Devron said:

    Honestly a lot has to do with having NHL goaltending too. We weren’t quite as bad as our record showed with Bruce. Yeah the structure sucked but you can’t win games with AHL goaltending. Really impressed with Silovs 

    Oh 100% having Demko back is huge he's been the big  reason same with last year he carried them.Silovs as well he's obviously better than Martin and Delia.

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