Harold Drunken
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4 hours ago, Coconuts said:
Yup, tough to build a fanbase when the product is forever mediocre. It's why you've gotta give markets like Columbus credit considering how long they've been mediocre.
It's also why it's nice to see Seattle having the success they're having in season two.
Giving future expansion teams favourable conditions seems like a no brainer if the idea is to grow the game and solidify a franchise.
Vegas and Seattle sure broke the mold. I remember when expansion teams used to be bad for a decade before even sniffing the playoffs!
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If your a southern American city with multiple other larger sports franchises to compete with, Gary Bettman wants to be in you.
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24 minutes ago, Guile said:
Trading Beauvilier 50% retained at the TDL is also a great option. Yes, this doesn't solve our cap challenges for the start of the year and will greatly depend on other transactions, but a 2.1M cap hit speedy second line winger who elevates in the playoffs is a valuable asset. Niederreiter (4M) got a second with no retention. Have to think Beau is worth at least that, perhaps more, if the market stays similar next year and he has an 80+ game track record of top 6 play with the Canucks.
Honestly, if Beauvilier finishes the year the same way he's been playing I don't think we'd have to retain anything.....IMO he's a steal right now at $4.15m.
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The Canucks employ a lot of people that are a lot better at math than me, they'll find a way. If they were confident in trading for Hronek they likely have already done the projections etc. and are fine with it. There will be some moves made this summer, that cap will go up a bit but it's obvious they need to move a winger or two, and doing something with one of OEL or Myers (god I hope it's both) will go a long way too. They'll be fine.
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I wonder who Tampa will play in round 2
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Without Demko this is a tie game at least lol Demmer is so important to this teams success.
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Diguiseppe needs to stay on the 4th line man he's a fire cracker
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Brisbois has been surprisingly dependable...Wolanin looks like he deserves a longer look too.
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I'm all for tanking.....but I will NEVER hope for a loss against the leafs. F&#k the Leafs! Go Nucks.
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This....what management is saying, and they seem to be doing are completely disconnected. Between the Horvat trade and now looked good, then we took on more $$ and traded picks....I just don't know what to even think anymore haha
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20 years from now " Where did you play in the NHL Vlad?"
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If you're French, the Canadiens want you.
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40 minutes ago, CanuckRookieFan said:
For those of us who don't want to wait 3 years for a rebuild and are content to just going to games for fun the managment team is doing a great job. Draft picks are great for "tankers" but luckily managment is more on the casual fan side it seems with acquiring ready to go players. Vancouver fans don't have a stomach for a rebuild we want entertainment.
Literally the entire fanbase has been screaming for one, including the beat writers and journalists for the team lol. You are literally in the fringe minority if you didn't want a proper rebuild.
Re-tooling on the fly has been the exact opposite of entertaining for the last decade........if you haven't noticed?
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Fair enough trade, really no issues with it.
I really thought Lazar would add some much needed grit and work ethic to our bottom six by watching him in Boston but it really hasn't translated. He was pretty invisible out there most nights, when healthy.
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2 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said:Myers in his own end
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1 minute ago, PhillipBlunt said:Myers in his own end
Myers just doesn't have any mojo right now, I literally watched him pass the puck to a player who didn't have a stick last night.
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Just now, fanofvan said:
Mighty noble of you to stand up for Alf, I can respect that. Like I've said in previous posts, Rutherford had absolutely no need to take this job; he has won championships, he has built teams, and he's fairly advanced in age. He said during his introductory press conference that he would not have taken the position if he wasn't given full autonomy over all personnel decisions and I believe him when he said that.
I'm absolutely fine with a full rebuild as much as I'm fine with the new regime being given a chance to execute their plan. It may be similar to Benning's plan but, to me, it looks like they are being smarter about it.
I will say that's a very good point, just because Benning couldn't do it that doesn't mean a different group can't.
Even though I was/am on the full rebuild train, I have more confidence a Rutherford led front office can do it than an Aquilini/Benning tandem. Time will tell if they are successful or not.
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Just now, Alflives said:
All true. But I don't think the offer was two firsts. if it was then we would take that and use the picks to trade for a younger center. That's what we just did to get Hronek. We turned Bo into Hronek via the draft capital returned. So why wouldn't we do the same with two firsts for Miller? And those firsts would have a lot of value considering the Penguins aging roster and potential to fall back.
Yeah I don't actually know what the supposed package was so tough to say do it or don't do it too so that's a good point. The Penguins don't have a young center to offer anyway.
Like you said, we could potentially turn the picks from a Miller trade into a young center if needed or use the cap room we gain by him leaving to target a center in the off season.
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Just now, -Vintage Canuck- said:
It's crazy to me that Edmonton is comfortable with that goalie situation headed into the playoffs. They may not really have a choice, but still....can't see them making a run unless they can score 5 a game in the playoffs.
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3 minutes ago, AngryElf said:
The tweet that said it was two firsts has since been deleted, and like I said earlier, the keyword over the past few days was they wanted to SECURE a center before dealing JT. The key to this deadline so far has been moving towards young, fast and good on the boards and so I presume we were going to deal a boeser/garland for Kotkaniemi and make this deal in conjunction. No point dealing a really damn good player after telling your key guys you believe in them with the Honk trade. It reeks of having no plan, and pisses everyone off.
Fair enough, I thought Dreger was touching on this as well but I might be mistaken. Dreger is pretty thorough.
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2 minutes ago, Harold Drunken said:
That completely depends on the direction of the team. If they are tying to stay competitive and "re-tool" then yes. If they were rebuilding then it wouldn't really matter. Based on what they've said, yes they would need a centre in return.
4 minutes ago, fanofvan said:Can't blame the Canucks for asking for a centre back as without Miller their depth would be Pettersson - Dries - Raty - Aman...and thats pretty scary.
Thing is, Miller is a better winger than centre anyway...and getting his cap hit off the books allows the team flexibility to go out and get a real centre in the off season or other that's not locked into a huge contract until he's 37.
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Just now, fanofvan said:
Can't blame the Canucks for asking for a centre back as without Miller their depth would be Pettersson - Dries - Raty - Aman...and thats pretty scary.
That completely depends on the direction of the team. If they are tying to stay competitive and "re-tool" then yes. If they were rebuilding then it wouldn't really matter. Based on what they've said, yes they would need a centre in return.
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8 minutes ago, AngryElf said:I think we're going to take the best offer available that gets us under the cap for next season. Don't want that hanging over our head over the offseason, because we'll be taken to the cleaners over it.
There's some sources I'm reading this morning saying there was an offer from Pittsburgh for Miller which was a package of picks with no retained salary and they didn't accept it because they wanted a center in return.
This is frustrating because getting JT's hit off the books would be a big win.....if they were ok with taking a step back which we know they aren't. My point is, they somehow want to shed cap and yet get more competitive and better as they do so.....that sure seems like unrealistic expectations to me but what do I know.
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11 minutes ago, fanofvan said:
Buddy, Ive been a member of this board since 2004 and a season ticket holder for the Canucks for a long time. Quantity does not equal quality. Who do you think you are?
lol take it easy Chief
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NHL appears to be considering Atlanta and Houston for expansion
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Good point.