Generational.EP40

Gronk Most dominant TE ever. Real happy for him but at the same time man is this going to take a while to comprehend. Forget about greatest TE ever, he’s arguably a top10 most dominant player in the NFL. With all the major injuries, surgeries and setbacks, he was always able to get back up and do it with a smile on his face while giving everyone around him enjoyment. Fitting his last catch was that catch to the 1 yard line against a triple team in the SB which led to the game winning TD...he leaves football as he entered - unguardable.

Well yea, obviously there’s role players in all sports no one denies that. And how are you comparing Gaudette to Beagle - a role player? Gaudette is the most recent Hobey Baker winner. He has serious skills to be a game changer NOT as some “filler”...I just don’t get what you’re attempting to get at, it just doesn’t make sense. A 4th line filler like Beagle isn’t the difference between a Cup. If that’s the case using your logic we should be winning the Cup having him lol. Sure he’s reliable but don’t make him out to be super man or like how Malhotra was for us which as a few notches above.

So you’re really out here believing the Caps won the Cup because of Beagle and won’t win again / wouldn’t have won because they lost him?

Did u just compare Beagle and Dorsett? lol. Caps let go of Beagle cuz there’d be a team overpaying him in FA. Turns out it was us and we gave him extra term too. His game is nothing about toughness, it literally a financial move...

That will get exempt. ...just look at Pronger and a handful of other players that got exempt...

That’d be like 4+ years down the road as per usual with such contracts and likelihood with the players. For the first handful of years no...he’s definitely playing

That wouldn’t be the case as per @Curmudgeon‘s post as well for @canuckistani’s post regarding protection

Correct - excellent find. Which means Seabrook would NOT have to be protected in the case of Seattle expansion.

With an agreement we soon after, shortly flip him to a team of his choosing. He has a modified NTC. Canucks would act as the side able to retain in order to move him.

1.) Tanev+3rd to Tampa for Callahan+Foote > Bolts will be moving into a cap crunch after this season. Lots of extensions that will kick into effect and many others to sign. They’re projected to lose Stralman to free agency, their top RHD and after that right side depth thins out. Tanev replaces Stralman allowing them to remain competitive, we take on a cap dump in Callahan who has 1 year remaining and in return get a promising prospect in Cal Foote. We then retain & flip Callahan to any contending team for whatever assets possible. 2.) Seabrook+Jokiharju for 4th > Seabrook’s full NMC, likely the only place he’d waive to leave Chicago would be for his hometown. Hawks get rid of arguably the worst/biggest anchor contract in hockey allowing them to extend key players going forward. Otherwise will remain in the vicious cycle of trading away upcoming players for lesser ones as they have for the past number of years. Blueprint of this deal is from when they traded away Teravainen+Bickell to get cap relief and Bickell’s contract is nothing compared to Seabrook. Canucks get a NHL ready prospect likewise who can bolster the top4 in the future. 3.) Sign Karlsson to $11.5m x 7yrs > Swedish history in Vancouver, track record speaks for itself...Karlsson made the Canucks the only Canadian exception on his NTC list before the Sens dealt him so he’d be open to coming here. This would make EK the highest paid defenceman in the league next to Doughty’s $11m & it’s enticing enough to work especially now having EP who’s the next Swedish superstar. As well as fellow countryman Edler to gel with. Immediate blueline Edler - Karlsson Hughes - Seabrook Jokiharju - Stecher (Hutton, Biega, Sautner) Future blueline Hughes - Karlsson Juolevi - Woo Jokiharju - Foote (Tryamkin, Hutton, Sautner, Brisebois, Chatfield, Seabrook [LTIR?]) ...what I like about this is the future blueline gives us an excess pieces to able to use as ammunition in deals to address other areas of need. There’s more than the 6 dmen spots so there would be a lot of options and competition. Seabrook in the now would give us a great veteran presence and he’s still got some juice left in the tank. With the Canucks soon to climb out of the league standings gutter and into playoff contenders, Seabrook would act as a rock on the back end as someone who’s been there, done that. Karlsson is rather self explanatory. It’s very fortunate that the 7 year term would only take him to age 36 (he turns 29 this year) considering a lot of these long term deals for prime aged players usually takes them closer to age 40 than anything (look at Burns). I really do think something along these lines would finally help round off the blueline which is clearly the organizations weakest point.

Yea yea no ones saying anything about that. I’ll take that as you agree because you’re moving the goal posts from what I originally replied to

Lol I like how you’re making it seem like this is fact when it purely isn’t and something you made up. If you want I can back this up with facts unless you agree.

I don’t think he literally meant between 10-15 overall, but top 10 or top 15 as in 1-10 or 1-15.

Tbf you’re missing the point but just strictly to answer your response, of the 4 times we’ve had top10-15 picks, he’s missed twice (Virtanen, Juolevi) and struck gold twice (EP, Hughes). The other time being outside of that range you mention where he struck gold again with Boeser at 23. ...point being had JB had more ammunition in the past which he dealt away himself, we’d certainly have a couple more top prospects. You can’t downplay the value of these picks “losing your cheese” etc. Literally all it takes is 1 right pick to change the fortunes of a franchise just as EP has done. I get he’s at the top of the draft, but there’s still very effective players you get after as evident by Tryamkin, Gaudette, Madden, etc.

Nailed it !

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Very well said, I whole heartedly agree Again, just showing some of the inconsistencies

Again, reread what I said. What does anything I said have to do with Benning drafted Pettersson? You’re not the brightest I take it.

What does that have to do with anything? Delusional. Again like others, read what’s being said.

Hahahaha Thank you for taking the time to easily pick a part this users homer take. I didn’t want to bother with it. Gotta love the winning culture bs which is the exact opposite of what we’ve had as you said the past 3 years. Not like any of that culture has helped our losing butt’s

Yea, glad to see your view point changing and being open to discussion. It was meant for healthy talks anyways. Some homers just see nothing but blue and don’t know what constructive criticism is (ex: puckfather dude who’s just calling me a troll)

Paying for ST’s and wanting the best for the team is trolling now Gotcha.

Yea I mean he can still give input just as Shannahan did for Toronto. Doesn’t mean because he doesn’t have managerial status he won’t have a say. Honestly made this topic for healthy discussion so people can come to realization of things. Appalled by how defensive and attached people were at the beginning of thread that they couldn’t even realize stuff which nearly the rest of league would agree on lol. And it’s not like I’m some random, I am a STH as well. Does it mean I can’t make constructive criticism? Hell no. People that think you have to nod your head are ones that enable bad trends to continue in organizations by not holding them accountable. I’m just stating a relatively fair resolution I’d be in favour of the team making for these (obvious) reasons. There’s literally no harm in doing this, at least not that I can think of atm