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I'm not questioning vaccines. This context was about the US-bashing in this thread, which is ironic to me considering we're utterly reliant on US-made vaccines.

Meanwhile in Canada we're all getting omicron regardless. Good thing we have US-made vaccines in our veins?

In reality it's likely the one with a massive hegemony including a global security blanket installed.

Sure, but there is no other candidate that fits the bill atm. But comparica doesn't change the Canadian omicron experience regardless.

The reason I keep saying 1 or 2 year ago relevance is that today case counts don't matter. We're all getting omicron regardless. I can confirm this as I've gotten it despite double-vaxxing and following all protocols, and so has most everyone I know. More and more governments are indicating that we all need to learn to live with covid. What more is needed to talk about on this front?

Approach on Policy. But again this seems like discussion from 1 or 2 yrs ago.

Where's Canada's? Okay...

As far as nations capable of being world leader nations is concerned, it's either the US or China. The metrics being missed in this little bash don't include the most important ones: The economic ones. The financial ones. The US has built a substantial hegemony due to it's vast economic resources that other nations simply don't have. And whether we like it or not, that hegemony absolutely envelopes Canada. I mean we can bicker about all sorts of other stats to take a piece out of them for giggles, but that really is meaningless. As far as US covid stats are concerned, well NY has had the same outcomes as Florida despite wildly-differing policy. So maybe covid ultimately doesn't care about policy. This seems like 1yr old or 2yr old points anyway, as by now omicron impacts us all quite equally and we're pretty much on our own to deal with it. Regardless of policy. Oh, and which nation were we ultimately dependent on for vaccines? Okay...

Who's the world leader nation? China? Pass.

Did you not even read the context?

I love a good ol' USA bash as much as anyone, but there's just no way they're not the world's leader atm. The world is pretty much dependent on the security blanket they provide, and given how we've gotten a preview of how Chinese authoritarian rule would pan out here, yeah, I'd take 'murican chaos any day.

I agree there have been some def. perks to the pandemic in light of the tech improvements for those who needed it. But it's too bad it came at so high a cost, but in terms of lives and mental health. I'd say it only evens out in the long term for that aspect.

That's alright. Doesn't look like we were having the same convo anyway.

I think the efficiency comes at the services delegation level, not the doctor training level.

I don't. Prob. because the US is the top civilized country, and they're not represented by one particular viewpoint on the matter anyway. The comparica angle doesn't mean much to us in Canada now anyway, imho. I read that Ontario's top doctor indicated they need to move on. Bonnie also indicated as such. Not much really standing in the way of inevitability at this point.

Tell that to the dozens of people who were packed in there. While pretending that hospitals care all that much about omicron. It is tricky.

Visit the hospital waiting room I just did and try to arrive to another conclusion from me.

In terms of realistic policy for omicron they are. That's for sure.

Okay, but I don't think I can pretend otherwise.

Regardless of data being collected on it or not, I'd expect to see the same over-users burden the system, well past the pandemic.

The Maher story was noting dem supporter paranoia in particular. Anyway, they seem to have transitioned to the next phase a bit more ahead of us. Not a shock.

I'm just not sure if the US public is seeing it that way.

It's an assertion based on anecdotal evidence and reasonably it makes sense as there are a lot of simply unhealthy people going to the hospital because that's become their lifestyle. But feel free to discard that opinion.

I don't think we'd allow that and besides our taxes are high for this purpose.

Interesting. I was told that warm weather should not have made a diff. But that was reddit.