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    Time for the Calgary Stampede to Evolve... ?

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    9 hours ago, canuckistani said:

    I can speak for my species when we have mass data, thank you very much. If you empathize equally with animals as human, that is clinically anomalous behavior and not empathy. You cannot empathize more with creatures you relate less with, as empathy is relatability. It’s another word you are looking for.

    Sometimes I read things you say and feel really sorry for you. 

    Time for the Calgary Stampede to Evolve... ?

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    3 hours ago, sam13371337 said:

    its happening in stages... whether it will succeed...? time will tell.

     

    vegans have found a powerful niche in the left movement.  and they are pushing their agenda very effectively..   it starts with legislation (which we have seen) .  it continues with celebrities embracing the lifestyle to advance their careers by scoring browny points with the left.  

     

    Then promiment people who have the audacity to eat meat in public get harassed and shamed into submission for fear of losing their status. 

     

    Schools start to propagate the benefits of the lifestyle.  then its only a matter of time before leftist teachers start banning their students from packing meat lunches... as they will scream its against global warming, its murder, it offends vegans and vegan meals are healthier anyway... so how dare that evil child abusing parent pack their kid a turkey sandwhich…...

     

    then meat gets banned from menus of prominent people, schools, etc....    and were well on our way...  whether it succeeds or not only time will tell. but its definitely the direction were heading and its following the same step by step game leftists use to socially engineer their ideology into society.

    Or maybe, just maybe, meat isn't that good for you...

    Time for the Calgary Stampede to Evolve... ?

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    4 hours ago, sam13371337 said:

    that is the single most annoying angle they use.....  there is a difference between a pet and a random animal.  dogs are especially unique in the sense that they have evolved around humans in 1 way or another.  and are extremely dependent on them... 

     

    dogs and their owners also bond in a scientifically proven chemical bond that a person usually shares with their child...…..     But.... they are the same as lobsters for people pushing an agenda...  

     

     

    this is why vegans are annoying.  their holier than thou attitude is disgusting.....   im sorri me intelligent vegan friend.  mi only have grade 5 education and illiterate. me eat meat. me caveman you soy very much advanced. please lead way soy intelligent man.

     

     

    its funny how you ignore all the insults from other side but get offended by a simple generalization. 

     

    I am positive that there are many good vegans around.  but the issue is the movement as a whole is no longer content on living their own lifestyle.  but they have shifted into trying to harass,  legislate, and shame others into following their lifestyle.  even Canadas new food guide is ideologically driven pro-vegan propaganda. 

     

    this is a sad story we have seen many times.... its only a matter of time before eating meat becomes taboo for someone in polite society....this is getting out of hand.

    .........I rest my case.

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    7 hours ago, RowdyCanuck said:

     And you need to learn that eating meat doesn't automatically make someone a bad person. Moral obligation? This is your personal choice and not everyone is going to make the same choices as you. Getting in people's faces and ranting about how they're just horrible and stupid rednecks isn't winning anyone over, bud. Take your hypocrisy elsewhere.

     

     As far as the abuse cases go in mass farming (which I'm not personally a fan of so we can at least agree on that) it doesn't happen as often as you think. The reason it seems that it because the media will blow up any story that throws a negative light on the meat industry.

     

     While there are still cases of it, you should know that the places that mistreat animals are shut down almost immediately. The industry has VERY strict regulations about humanely handling and slaughtering the animals.

     

     Stop researching from a biased stand point. Go talk to farmers, ranchers, feedlot workers. Learn first hand how these animals are actually treated. I've told you time and time again, ignorantly preaching at people about this when you've never actually handled or been around livestock isn't going to get you anywhere.

     

     Get off the computer and educate yourself in real life. If you take the time to actually learn about this subject people might stop laughing at you on the internet.

     

     I'm tired of arguing with you when you clearly have no interest in learning about how it is on the other side of the coin. Don't bother replying.

    All I can say is LOL! Do you own a cattle farm or something, because this is hilarious! 

     

    YOU ARE EATING DEAD FLESH from something that was once living, we live in a country, where we have COPIOUS amount of food options. I would understand if this was 1930 and food was scarce and we didn't have alternatives, but we do, so now IT IS about morals/ethics.

     

    Also, when did I say I'm a better person than you or anyone else? That is your own assumption from your own insecurities because deep down inside, you know it's wrong. 

     

    Those cases I posted are in our god damn backyard, in Abbotsford and Chilliwack, BOTH of those farms are still operating today, so they're not "shut down" like you said, so you're just typing up bull$&!# in every post. I'm curious, how old are you? and where are you from? because maybe this will help me understand your lack of understanding. I feel like I'm talking to my 90 year old grandpa.

     

    Want to know something, I was once like you, I ate meat for 27 years, then I stopped. I stopped because I thought about why I ate meat and I couldn't think of any logical reason except for "protein and tastes good". That wasn't good enough.

     

    I've been Vegan for 2 years now, I'm in the best shape of my life, I run the grouse grind in 40 minutes, my body-fat percentage is sitting at 11% today from 21% when I was eating meat, I lift 225lbs on the bench press at 170 lbs. Also, I'm more focused, I wake up feeling great everyday! These were just some of the benefits of going Vegan but that wasn't my intention it was strictly for ethical reasons. 

     

    You want me to go visit a farm? I've actually tried, last time I try to go inside a slaughter house they threatened to call the cops and told me they wouldn't show me what's happening inside. 

     

     "Get off the computer and educate yourself in real life. If you take the time to actually learn about this subject people might stop laughing at you on the internet." LOL! I have 2 undergrads and a MBA, I'm fairly educated, I'm not worried about the 3 people in this thread that think eating cancerous food is important to preach to the world. 

     

    https://www.cancer.ca/en/prevention-and-screening/reduce-cancer-risk/make-healthy-choices/eat-well/limit-red-meat-and-avoid-processed-meat/?region=bc (Straight from BC Cancer) 

     

     

     

     

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    Time for the Calgary Stampede to Evolve... ?

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    26 minutes ago, Monty said:

    Wasn’t laughing at people who choose not to eat meat, or those that want parts (or all) of the rodeo to stop. You know that deb.

     

    Just as you know my comment was in response to someone not talking about about the rodeo, which was why I brought up the lobster story. People don’t want to eat meat or fish? Fine. But if people push their beliefs on others, it’s annoying, and usually comes across badly. 

     

     

    I think this is different than religion, this isn't really a belief anymore, this more so ethics and a moral obligation. You need to be more open-minded to the fact that when you consume meat, it was at a cost of someone's life. 

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    22 hours ago, RowdyCanuck said:

    I can only speak of cattle and I guess you mean feedlots and you realize feedlots have a lot of rules and regulations and there's also not as many feedlots cause everyone wants grass fed beef. That's why it's better for the family ranchers/farmers. 

    Also to be blunt what other reason is there to have chickens or beef or pigs? Their food..... Also most chicken barns are cleaned every six weeks and there's a lot of regulations too. It seems like your going off of old data. 

    A lot has changed since 90's  

    theres a  documentary.  it's all about what your talking about but most if not all of the stuff they show is old and before everything has changed. 

     

    Also, how self-indulged are you? what other "REASON" to have living animals? are you even listening to yourself....so should we kill humans in mass too, I mean many of them serve no purpose based on your logic? 

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    22 hours ago, RowdyCanuck said:

    I can only speak of cattle and I guess you mean feedlots and you realize feedlots have a lot of rules and regulations and there's also not as many feedlots cause everyone wants grass fed beef. That's why it's better for the family ranchers/farmers. 

    Also to be blunt what other reason is there to have chickens or beef or pigs? Their food..... Also most chicken barns are cleaned every six weeks and there's a lot of regulations too. It seems like your going off of old data. 

    A lot has changed since 90's  

    theres a  documentary.  it's all about what your talking about but most if not all of the stuff they show is old and before everything has changed. 

     

    Old data? I think you're going off old data. If you haven't been paying attention take a look at the New Canadian Food Guide, that'll give you some insight. 

     

    Also, regulations - does this look humane to you? if it does, then you're probably a psychopath.

     

     

     

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    22 hours ago, sam13371337 said:

    vegans are the most annoying group of people on earth.  period.  

     

    and hypocrital since they eat bread and beer.  Yet millions of insects die in mass cultivation of wheat.   Their standards for animal rights only apply to the cute and cuddly ones.  insects get no love. 

    This is what a grade 10 education gets you folks. Stay in school kids. 

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    8 minutes ago, RowdyCanuck said:

    So okay what do we do with chickens or beef or pigs? Also what about hunting for meat? We should just leave them all be? 

    hunting is different than mass producing farm animals feeding them a mass amount of antibiotics and hormones, making them live in absolute disgusting conditions in there own urine/fecal matter and then mass murdering them like their lives mean nothing. 

     

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    20 minutes ago, RowdyCanuck said:

     Do you have any idea how hectares of land is required to sustain that? Wave bye bye to rain forests around the world. The rain forests in South America have already been damaged by the massive amount of almond and avocado farming. 

     

     Also, did you take in to account that the average person simply can't afford that lifestyle? Almond milk is at least $3 more than dairy milk in most stores. Not eating meat is a privilege and choice. Treat it like religion: stop shoving it in people's face's and stop demonizing those who don't agree with you.

     

     I don't know where you're getting your numbers but you clearly don't know much about farming or the impact that a solely plant based diet has on the economy and the ecosystem.

     

    Please research the subject a little more thoroughly. Farmers and ranchers make their living off the land and they do everything they can to protect it. Anyone who has actually read an agricultural magazine (or even googled "farming") knows that there are many groups constantly conducting studies on how to minimize our impact on the environment and streamline the process to limit waste.

    uhhhhhh you know how many hectares of land is required for raising farmed animals? required to feed them? The rainforests in South America are being damaged by deforestation by dictator leader in brazil. 

     

    "Also, did you take in to account that the average person simply can't afford that lifestyle? Almond milk is at least $3 more than dairy milk in most stores. Not eating meat is a privilege and choice. Treat it like religion: stop shoving it in people's face's and stop demonizing those who don't agree with you."

     

    This is easily resolved when plant-based choices will be scaled. Google economies of scale. I'm not shoving anything into anyone's face. But we are in a MASSIVE crisis. Climate change is real, the environment is at stake, food shortages are real, and animal abuse is real, cows/pigs/chickens do feel pain and mass murder should be treated the same way as if you were to harm a cat/dog. I genuinely care for the future, I care for my kids and your kids, you're living in denial. 

     

    You want research, just google it, seriously, the evidence is at your fingertips, either you can continue to live in denial like you are now, and think of any sort of rhyme or reason to justify your actions, or you can change. 

     

     

     

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    1 minute ago, RowdyCanuck said:

    Okay first off what other reason is there cattle and I mean beef cattle not dairy? 

    alot of animals are raised to feed people. It's your choice if you want to eat a steak or not no one forces you....

    how is feeding people childish? 

    Not everyone likes red bean chili burgers ( there not bad but I still like the real thing)

    if you just said the bolded part it would have been a discussion but you picked to be childish by making a rude remake instead of acting like an adult and having a discussion.....

     

    So while we're at it, should we raise dogs to feed people? should we mass produce dogs in farms and kill them in mass so we can feed people? I want to understand your logic. 

     

    If we're talking about feeding people, did you know world hunger would be solved in 20 days if everyone was plant based? why? because we wouldn't be dedicating resources to feed animals, do you know how much water/food a cow needs and then it's sent to slaughter to feed maybe 100 people? it's extremely inefficient, in fact it's borderline idiotic. 

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