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Homo Sapiens' Sapience

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    Post Yo Face In The Twilight Sparkle Party

    in White Noise

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    How do we know it is you? It could be a random picture of someone else taken from their myspace or facebook account. Same goes with all the pictures posted in here and people being gullible enough to believe it. If people want to post pics of themselves, they should also hold up a piece of paper with their user name written on it.

    You know many people who'd pretend to be some ugly kid on the internet?

    :lol: :lol: :lol:

    ***The UFC/MMA THREAD***

    in Off-Topic General

    Posted

    You're adding emotion into the judging. Emotion invokes impartiality. This is not about deserving or anything else. This is about judging impartially within the rules. Who did the most, and succeeded the most should have been the only deciding factor when declaring a winner. It really is as simple as that.

    I think you are adding a factor that has no bearing on the fight. The abilities of the fighter and how they used them are not factors when judging. You can only judge what actually happens in the ring. On saturday night. No matter how boring you may feel the fight was. Shogun did more of everything he needed to do to win and they judged against him. They disregarded what actually happened in the ring, and made a decision that would seem to be either colluded or emotional. Neither of which should happen.

    You're right, entirely fair judging would have seen Rua win. I said as much right after the fight.

    It's true that now I'm adding intangibles that perhaps don't belong here. Regardless, I think you should be excited for the rematch, it's bound to be a good one.

    ***The UFC/MMA THREAD***

    in Off-Topic General

    Posted · Edited by Vlad the Impaler

    I would say yes he deserves the win. The fight is to be looked at as nothing more than the fight. That's it. Who ever does more takes it. If by your definition only one fight is thrown and the the rest of the fight they do nothing. Then the guy who threw the punch wins. I don't think there is any logical argument that can say he shouldn't win.

    As for you think the fight did more damage than the decision. I can not disagree with you more. I am talking about credibility for the sport. Not credibility for the promotion. I don't care about the UFC's credibility. I think they have very little as it is. This judgement just makes the sport look very bush league. I would be complaining about this judgement if it was any two fighters. It just happens it was for the title and it was in the ufc.

    I didn't ask if he should win, I asked if he deserves the title. My opinion is no, the title shouldn't go to the fighter who gives just a hair more than bare minimum, even if the champ does less than that.

    You don't think a much anticipated fight between a champ and a someone of Rua's caliber being what it was doesn't damage the sport's credibility? Using your hockey example, would you feel the same if Detroit vs. Penguins ended up being more of a New Jersey vs. Minnesota snoozefest final? (The reason I disregard your example of the one goal is because one goes may have been all that could be attained by the team doing everything they could, the fight wasn't remotely similar.)

    ***The UFC/MMA THREAD***

    in Off-Topic General

    Posted · Edited by Vlad the Impaler

    I think the decision is a farce and it leads to a lack of credibility. I am an outspoken hater of the UFC. I do not hide that at all. I'm a huge fan of MMA and I'm not afraid to say that the UFC at this moment is the best we have as product goes. But I don't think that crapty decisions are at all good for the sport.

    It doesn't make me want to see a rematch. I really feel ripped off as a fan. There is no such thing as a moral victory. Either you win or you lose. At this moment in time. I feel like I lost. I feel like I lost a little more faith in the sport I love so much.

    I'll ask you simply. If the canucks scored only one goal in a game 7 against the penguins for the stanley cup finals would you say they don't deserve the title?

    That question is entirely irrelevant and it's frustrating to see it brought up by someone like you.

    I'll ask you simply, if the fighters danced a Polka dance for 25 minutes, and Rua threw one shot, would you say he deserves the title?

    The fight itself did more to hurt the sport than the decision. When two tigers go face to face and you get a c0ck fight, that's not good for the sport. I think you're misplacing your anger.

    ***The UFC/MMA THREAD***

    in Off-Topic General

    Posted

    Actually he did what was required to win the title. You can not take other matches into consideration when judging a fight. You judge what is put in front of you. The title means nothing when you are judging a contest. The fight is all you are judging. Nothing more and nothing less. That's why this is such an injustice. This was Shogun winning in every conceivable way within the fight. Adding in it was for a belt and that is why he didn't win is a joke. There is no benefit of the doubt positioning. This wasn't a draw and the champ gets to keep the belt. This was a win for Shogun and he was denied the belt.

    Logically, yes you're right. Still, the more I think about it, the happier I am with the decision. If the two fighters stood for 5 rounds, and Rua threw the only punch, would he deserve the title?

    I don't know, I think this decision is going to benefit us, fans, in the end. Rematch will be much better, because neither fighter is happy with the way it went down (at least I don't think Machida is happy, unless he lacks all self respect).

    ***The UFC/MMA THREAD***

    in Off-Topic General

    Posted

    So because the Penguins only won by one goal in Game 7 means that the Wings get to hold onto the Cup for another year?

    Not buying it.

    It is the reality, but it is unfair.

    That's not what he meant, and you know it.

    It's more if an F1 champ raced another doing 50mph, and did JUST enough to stay a couple of inches ahead or behind. Does the other guy deserve a TITLE without actually putting all he has into it? Machida won his title by fighting, not hanging back. This fight he didn't force the pace, but Shogun did not do what's required to win a title. Shogun does not deserve the title based on this fight, but Machida didn't win it either.

    The entire fight was a bloody joke, and I hope they have a rematch soon, so we can enjoy both fighters going all out.

    ***The UFC/MMA THREAD***

    in Off-Topic General

    Posted

    Well we have to follow Canadian Press style, which means that you have to type things out fully, and abbreviate them later. If this was a personal or professional website, I'd fully abbreviate it from the start, but for class, well, I need the grades.

    And I constantly rip on hip "insiders" from the mainstream media for almost every sport. Nothing new with Iole. That's just me, tho.

    (and yeah, fully planning on doing this kind of stuff for a living. actually :unsure: )

    Haha that makes sense then.

    It was pretty good, my comment was rather tongue in cheek.

    What are you taking? Journalism?

    ***The UFC/MMA THREAD***

    in Off-Topic General

    Posted

    Well, I just typed up this column as an entry for a sports-related website I'm designing for a class. First crack at writing anything MMA. Any comments/suggestions?

    After the controversial decision that allowed Lyoto Machida to retain his Ultimate Fighting Championship Light Heavyweight Title against Shogun Rua, the shouts of a fix being in took to the Internet, and, in technical terms, turned it into a crapstorm.

    A quick back story for those who don’t love mixed martial arts, but love controversy. Undefeated Lyoto Machida takes on Mauricio “Shogun” Rua at UFC 104 in Los Angeles Saturday night. Shogun is an overwhelming underdog and not expected to last the full five rounds. Not only does he last five rounds, but also he beats up on Machida throughout the fight. When the fight was over, Shogun raised his hands in celebration, fully expecting a win. Oh, the poor, naïve fellow. Machida won a unanimous decision, with all three judges scoring the bout 48-47 for Machida.

    So, of course, the battle went onto twitter. Everything should be treated as [sic]:

    hueypsmith: shogun smoked machida! the UFC Is becoming boxing! dirty judges or blind judges.. either way they blew the fight!

    hobiehong: shogun should be the champ! result was BS!!

    But perhaps the most convincing argument comes from this foreign-language, all-caps 140-character rant from juaumjiu:

    juaumjiu: O SHOGUN FOI ROUBADO NA LUTA CONTRA O MACHIDA UFC 104 INTERIOR DE SP CONECTADO AKI, E SEM SONO FODA TER Q ACORDAR 12:00HRS KKK

    I guess I concur.

    But perhaps the most shocking of all was UFC president Dana White posting on his twitter that “I hear you all. They have both agreed to a rematch” and admitting in his post-fight interview that he felt Shogun won the scrap.

    In a rare instance, Kevin Iole of Yahoo! Sports had a relevant opinion:

    The men who should be facing the wrath of those who felt Rua had won should not be Hamilton, Peoples and Rosales, who rendered their opinions in a very technical, taut affair. Rather, Rua supporters should be angry at his corner men, who continually told him he was well ahead.

    Rua said he didn’t press the action in the final two rounds because his corner had told him he was in control. If that’s true, it’s that advice that cost him the fight. And it’s always the worst kind of advice to give a fighter in any match, but particularly a technical fight like Machida-Rua.

    Iole’s assessment is pretty much correct. It’s not often, whether we’re talking about mixed martial arts, boxing or any other fighting sport, that a challenger wins against the champion on a judge’s decision. Shogun, for all he did to control the fight, never took his chances to finish it and never followed up on his attacks. Machida withstood a lot more blows, but mounted more successful combinations.

    This isn’t the first time that we’ve had a controversial decision in any sport, and it certainly won’t be the last. Dana’s post-fight press conference (also, he rips into referee Steve Mazagatti) is certainly an indication that the UFC wants this one done right.

    Dana White post-fight press conference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuDZwRN_O6M

    FightMetric statistics: http://fightmetric.com/fights/Machida-Shogun.html

    Kevin Iole column: http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_ylt=Aie9...o&type=lgns

    So in your opinion column, you rip on another guy who writes an opinion column. I hope you don't plan to do this for a living. ;)

    The bold part didn't make sense to me, but it could be the alcohol. And I suggest abbreviating UFC, personal bias, but I can't stand reading two separate, multi-word titles in a row. Makes it seem so wordy when they mush into one. UFC Light Heavy Weight looks and reads much better. IMHO.

    Otherwise pretty good.

    ***The UFC/MMA THREAD***

    in Off-Topic General

    Posted

    It was a close fight, but it's clear Shogun should have taken it. I like Machida, but Shogun just got screwed.

    Anyone else feel terrible about the Rothwell fight? Can't believe how hard Velasquez came at him. Still shouldn't have been called when it was, Rothwell absorbed those punches like it was nothing.

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