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Sorry for the long responses....
Well said. Can't agree more.
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Kesler has already given the Canucks six teams he’d be willing to waive his no-trade clause for: Anaheim, Colorado, Detroit, Tampa Bay, Chicago and Pittsburgh.
Unfortunately for the Canucks, there were only fits with two of those teams heading toward the March trade deadline — Anaheim and Pittsburgh.
The way this sounds, the list was given at the deadline.
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ISS released their May rankings.
ISS Top 30 released for May: http://ISStop30.com Ranking of the top prospects for the @NHL Draft PLEASE RETWEET pic.twitter.com/FOT9zJd7Iy
Top 11: Reinhart - Ekblad - Dal Colle - Bennett - Nylander - Draisitl - Perlini - Fabbri - Ritchie - Virtanen - Ehlers
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So we drafted a guy we want to eventually be a top 6 center and then have him make the team on the wing?! If anything, we do that with Gaunce. Not Horvat. If the only spot for Horvat is wing, then we should send him back to JR for another year. And believe me, I want him on the team next year, but not like that.
What's wrong with starting on the wing? I'm not saying he has to stay there for the whole season - just till he learns the ropes. There he wouldn't have to be as defensively responsible, and can be less afraid of a mistake costing the team as goal. A line of Horvat - Mathias - Higgins would be defensively responsible, while still having some offensive potential. It also allows Mathias to be more aggressive on the dot, as Horvat can come in for faceoff duties if thrown out.
I have no problem sending him back to junior for another season, but him making the team on the wing shouldn't be viewed as a negative.
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I'm thinking IF Bo makes the team next year, it will be as a bottom 6 winger. He has experience playing the wing, and we have a handful of capable centres for he 3rd line in Mathias, Schroeder, Richardson, possibly Santorelli or a UFA signing and possibly Lain, Gaunce or Zalewski. Bo can be slowly moved over to centre throughout the year.
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My motto for this year's draft: 'It's not the player we pick, but how we develop him.'
Basically everyone that has been debated has upside and flaws that have been beaten to death. Most people have their favorites, while others are approaching this fairly open minded. Ritchie, Kapanen, Ehlers, Nylander, or Virtanen could all be exceptional players, but they could all be total flops. Pick the guys the scouts are raving about and go from there.
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I'd really love if the Canucks choose a high skilled forward to take a safe defensemen in the 2nd round, who can be a solid guy down the road. Traditionally we haven't taken Dman early and have waited for the later rounds to do so, but I feel there are some real good Dman in the second round.
In their wheelhouse
Jack Glover - Big rangy dman who makes a great first pass, rock solid in his own zone, and not too shabby as a skater. Reminds me a lot of a player in Winnepeg ala Jacob Trouba. Hulk on the back end at 6'3'' but needs to add more muscle to his frame, but that is no problem.
Brycen Martin - good two way dman who clears the puck from the front of the net, average skater, but scouts always rave that he is always in position and makes smart plays. Doesn't stand out offensively, but a dependable dman. Many people say he wont be a player you notice because he is quietly going around doing a solid job. Poor mans Dan Hamhuis?
Jack Dougherty - big shot, mobility is the key to his game as he can skate the puck up the ice, but more raw talent thus will be more of a long term project type dman. A player with excellent skating ability, offensive skills and a physical edge sounds like the type of player we really like to have.
These are my top 3 dman I'd take personally with our 36th pick.There are others like Vanier, Collins and Olias Mattsson. Possibly Honka or Deangelo slip too due to their size (which I can see, but far enough into the second for us to select them).
I have heard DeAngelo has attitude problems. So much so that one scout expected him to drop out of the first round. If we could snag him at 36 - I would be ecstatic. The guy's a first round talent, and has been projected in the 12-15 range by some.
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Here's a link to an interview with an ISS scout done by TSN 1050 in Toronto. They talk about players that could be available for the Maple Leafs (who pick 8th), but I figure this was close enough to the Canucks 6th that it was relevant. They also touch a bit on the top guys.
Lots of good insight on players we have been debating for the past few months.
Head Western Scout, Ross MacLean interviews with TSN Radio - Toronto 1050. http://iss.tw/1qF8fOj
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I have a feeling Canuck fans are going to look back on this draft in five years and go "why didn't we daft _____________"
There are so many options with the sixth pick that it is easier to be wrong than right. One of the approximately ten players the Canucks could justifiably pick at the sixth position will end up being a star. So basically there is about a 90% chance that the Canucks won't get it right, though it will be to the fault of nobody as it is way too difficult to predict future success with this group of players.
Unless the player picked ends up being a the next Crosby, Canuck fans will always say 'should have drafted x'
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Here's a thought, does any top 5 team draft Thatcher Demko as they need a goalie enough, or does a top 5 go off the board leaving us Drasaitl or Dal Colle? (Or highly unlikely 1 of the top 3 fall to us)
That would be a big stretch. Demko is projected to go late 1st/early 2nd. They would likely try their luck and grab him with their second.
As for all the Ehlers/Hemsky comparisons, would anyone really be upset with that as the turnout? Hemsky is a really good player, and without the injuries, he may have been great. Easily a top 6 guy in the league, and top line for many teams - and if that is one of the negatives for Ehlers - that he could turn out like Hemsky - I would jump all over him at #6
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Any good PMD's that we should look at in the 1st round? maybe move down and get an extra 2nd round pick.
There's Honka, DeAngelo and McKeown (more two-way). McKeown is projected to go mid to late 1st, but Honka and DeAngelo are all over the map. I have seen them both just outside the top 10, and in some cases they're not even top 30. DeAngelo reportedly has some attitude issues, and I think Honka is a boom/bust kind of pick - but that seems to be the case with a lot of guys this year.
I don't think I would trade down with our 1st. Pick one of Ehlers/Ritchie/Nylander/Virtanen/anyone who might fall from top 5 and hope someone falls to our 2nd. Maybe trade up with our 2nd or acquire a late first through trade.
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If we end up passing on Ehlers in favour of a larger sized player, I'm hoping that Robby Fabbri remains on the board long enough that the Canucks can claim him with their second pick.
Several rankings have him in the 30s although some have put him top-10. Many people expect him to fall to the second round due to his size. But those people also predict he could be the steal of the 2014 Draft.
Here's some scouting on Fabbri:
Fabbri's stats line:
2013-14 Regular Season: 58 GP, 45 G, 42 A, 87 PTS, +45, 55 PIM
2014 OHL Playoffs: 5 GP (missed 4 games due to injury), 4 G, 3 A, 7 PTS, +2, 2 PIM
Size:
5'10" (5' 10 1/4" on most recent charts--if that last 1/4 inch matters)
166 lbs (170 lbs on some recent charts)
Other vitals:
Centre (C/LW), shoots left, January 1996 born
After reading those scouting reports, it definitely sounded like a player to take a shot on, but being listed at 166/170 is a bit concerning. The height doesn't concern me, but he would have to bulk up considerably. It is a lot easier to forecheck against junior players than it is in the NHL.
I wouldn't be upset if we picked him, but I wouldn't cry if we didn't either.
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...He is big, he is so very fast for his size and no he doesn't just bull through D men, he dangles and deaks. He is surprisingly agile and has a Blake Wheeler look to him with more offensive upside and speed.
...And shouldn't look far beyond that unless we add another top 10 draft pick (Ottawa's via Anaheim maybe?)
But should we win the lottery and NOT take Reinhart or Ekblad though we'd be criminally stupid for the same reason i'd be upset if Virtanen was still on the board and the rest were gone and we didn't pick him.
Local boys will excite the crowd.
Again, Ehlers OR Ritchie will be solid picks for their own reasons, but both have just as much of a chance of not translating in to the NHL level as they do of making it.
Either way this team has no need to rush its players in, the same way Detroit didn't have to. Whoever we pick this, next and the following draft needs to be groomed accordingly. Almost universally we should be letting our guys play a full AHL season before bringing them in to the big club regardless of where they were picked.
I haven't watch anything on Ritchie, but I find this statement to be a bit curious. Wheeler has wheels and has posted 64, 41(on pace for 70 over 82 games) and 68 point totals over the last 3 years. To say the Ritchie has more upside in both those category's seems to be pushing it considering where scouts have him ranked.
I would think if Ritchie is expected to be better than Wheeler, we would hear more noise about him being included with the other top 5 of this draft.
As for local boys will excite the crowd - sure, if they're good. I'm not from B.C., so I really don't care if the player is from the area or not, and I always have to laugh at proposals where there reason to get play x is because he's 'a good old B.C. boy!'.
I just want them to be good. Jensen seemed to excite the crowd just fine.
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Unfortunate we'll likely have to wait ~2 months before we find out....
Do we have to wait for interviewing assistant GM's? Do they really do that much during the playoffs?
I believe Calgary and Buffalo were both allowed permission to talk to people during the season for their openings.
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Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie 36s
VAN makes it official -- Trevor Linden prez of hockey ops. News conference live on TSN2 with @RodSmithTSN et moi at 1:25 pm ET, 10:25 PT.
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Because any GM candidate worth his salt will not want the ownership meddling in hockey op's.
Exactly - but will that stop them? What about Torts? Does the new GM have the go-ahead to fire him? I can see a lot of potential guys looking at our situation and saying they want no part of this.
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I did.
But never did I think for a minute that the owner would decide to remain the defacto GM and hire Jay Feaster as a puppet to lead this team going forward.
My whole reason for supporting MG's firing was to hopefully bring in a bright and respected GM that would be able to push back on the ownerships meddling in hockey op's.
What we're seeing now is the complete opposite in my view, with the owners now putting themselves in position to actually become even more involved.
This is not a good situation at all.
Why would they do that? They're going to replace MG with their guy.
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Yeah the anti-Gillis crowd is celebrating now but this smacks of ownership being reactionary, panicky and further hints at them being overly involved in hockey operations...
That makes me worried but we'll see who they plan on having replace him (and likely Torts) before I form a concrete opinion on the move.
I am worried that ownership brings in a 'yes' man, who keeps Torts. As bad as this year was, it will get worse if ownership keeps meddling.
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Hopefully ownership lets the new GM hire his own coach. Torts has to go.
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I'll wait to hear on who they are replacing him with, but initial reaction is this is a bad idea.
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Steve Darling:Trevor was actually here to talk about the new gym he’s got going…Samantha Falk:A lot of things to talk about today!Steve Darling:And we’ll get to that…but first, news this morning, starting back east, that you were about to be named president of the Vancouver Canucks. Have you ever talked to the Vancouver Canucks about that job?Trevor Linden:I haven’t and I think it’s interesting…when teams struggle, there’s lots of speculation. I’ve been rumoured to do lots of things — Mark’s been rumoured to be the mayor of Surrey — I’ve been rumoured to go into politics.Darling:Mayor of Vancouver!Linden:Mayor of Vancouver, exactly. Right now, I’m enjoying running my clubs. Our fitness business has been successful, we’re launching a great new concept right now. Enjoying life.Darling:So to be clear, the Aquilinis haven’t approached you in any way to act as president or…Linden:No. Look I’ve spoken to, I know them from when I played, I know the brothers and such.Darling:So where do these rumours come from?Linden:I think perhaps, like Mark’s April Fool’s Day joke, it just gets traction, whatever people say. With the advent of Twitter and Facebook and stuff, people talk, that sort of thing.It goes rampant.Darling:If the Aquilinis were to come to you and offer you something, would you be interested?Linden:You know, Steve, I’ve always said that if the right opportunity, the right time came up, people have been asking me that for six years, “hey, you should come back or you should do this”…I’ve really enjoyed my time in the fitness business. Club 16 Trevor Linden Fitness has been very successful and we’re going to grow that brand and we’re launching Orange Theory fitness.But look, I’ve always said to people, if the opportunity is right and the time was right, I’d have to seriously consider it.Darling:Would you feel confident you could step in right now to a role as president? That you’d have the skill set to do that?Linden:I’ve never really thought of it, to be honest, there’s many jobs in hockey. I’ve often thought I’d be a good coach though, I love the tactical…Falk:Well, that position might be open soon!Linden:You know the tactical aspect of the game is something I’ve always loved, some of the coaches I’ve played for, why they chose the strategies they did. There’s lots of different jobs out there. I don’t know.Falk:If you made that transition would Vancouver be the place to do it?Linden:I think being in Vancouver, I love this city, I came here when I was 18 years old, it’s been home, the people. I love travelling the province, talking to people.I didn’t want to play anywhere else, I wouldn’t want to be [doing this anywhere else].So if the opportunity came up…Linden:I’m not prepared to leave here. This is home for me, it has been for a long time. Even when I played for Montreal and New York, this was still my home in the summer.Darling:You were at the game last night, what do you think as a fan that the team needs to do?Linden:It’s hard to say. The core of the team has really been there since the mid-2000s, you know, Henrik and Daniel and Kevin and Ryan and that crew, certainly, so I think the team would have to look at that. It’s been a disappointing season, the players have been disappointed the fans have been disappointed. Everyone’s been disappointed. It’s a not a fun time, playing games that don’t mean anything.Darling:Do you want to weigh in on what should be done?Linden:Obviously, it’s up to ownership, they have the ability to make the decisions. In a situation like this, people have got some decisions to make.Darling:To make this very clear, an announcement is not imminent, either today or tomorrow.Linden:Not imminent, no.
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If Linden is hired, but it hasn't been officially announced by the organization, of course he wouldn't talk about it because he can't. He's not allowed to. It happens all the time.
Obviously he wouldn't comment on it if he was being hired, but as elvis posted, Linden has been busy lately. Not sure when talks would have come up. They would have to be extremely preliminary.
And again, Linden has never shown any interest in returning to hockey. The moment he wants a job with the Canucks, he will get one, and I doubt it's something such as GM. He would come in as an adviser, or assistant to gain experience first.
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If we lucked out and won the lotto. Is anyone else liking Bennett over Reinhart? Hard not to take the Vancouver boy but man I love how Bennett plays.
I would go with Reinhart over Bennett, just because we lack a truly dynamic player in our system. That said, I could see management going with Bennett due to his defensive play. His offense is also good, but I'm not sure he's quite as good as Reinhart in that category.
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Considering the last few days he's been more focused on a new Club16 announcement than the Canucks, I'd say it rings true. He was vacationing before that as well.
If he'd been strangely silent I could see maybe something was in the works, but he's pretty clearly been doing his own thing, much like he has been for a few years now.
I'd agree to the extent that MacKenzie specifically said he'd be surprised if Nonis was facing any heat currently, but they haven't been able to build on any success. I'd be more worried to be a Toronto fan than a Canuck fan.
I agree. Linden has never shown any interest in rejoining the Canucks in a management role.
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