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Fundamentally, how will the Canucks make this team significantly better where this buy out can make sense?
Like sign Ryan graves to a 7yr/5.5m? Is that their master plan?
I just can’t see it right now
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Pathetic, just pathetic.
like really benning? You tried to save your a$$ and still got fired and now we’re stuck with a buyout penalty for almost a decade
I hope you never find a job ever again in hockey
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3 minutes ago, IBatch said:Did you beat Vintage! And here I was, just writing a short story in the other thread explaining why signing Severson wouldn't be all that bad for us...
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14 minutes ago, The Lock said:
I felt like I read and had way too many conversations with people who seemed to almost expect him to come here.
Just goes to show that just because we have a number of Russian players does not mean every Russian player in the league suddenly magically wants to migrate to here. Imagine that. lol
Dan milstein betrayed us
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Severson and graves value just went up
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Phi wins this deal
cbj got the “best” player in the deal, but I don’t know if this will make them better considering the distractions he may carry with him
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4 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said:
So, according to your logic we should have locked up Boeser to a 7.5x8 contract in 2019? His numbers were better than Caufield coming off his ELC and he finished 2nd in the Calder voting. You know how bad that contract would look now right?
Also, Kyle Dubas really screwed over the Leafs with your logic. Matthews with only a 5-year extension and Marner with a 6-year extension. Just terrible mismanagement from Dubas really...
7 minutes ago, mordekai said:People would be screaming today if Boeser has Caufield's contract.
Very fair point, but boeser was a little overrated from the start as he was ALL we had to get excited about at the time. Meaning, a true hockey mind never would value him that high cause he didn’t/doesn’t have the quickness to create space on his own thus limiting his ceiling. 5.5m-6.5m on a 8 year deal is what a 50-60 point guy gets if you ask me
boeser is a terrific finisher and board battler, but that’s pretty much it.
Toronto’s core four getting paid big money is a product the pedestal they all play under which is common called the “Toronto effect”…marner isn’t an 11m player and JT value bloomed in UFA. Matthews and nylander are currently at fair value deals and their next deals will be bloated because of their pending UFA status
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1 hour ago, HorvatToBaertschi said:
All it took was 1 reply to start complaining about the Canucks on a post dedicated to another team. Yikes.
If Caufield is worth 8*7.85, Pettersson at 10 or so is just as great of a contract, and we shouldn't be complaining. Pettersson's comparables are the likes of Mackinnon, Tkachuk, not Caufield.
Yikes, what a miss of the point.
the point was to sign your young players for as long as possible cause the price never goes down
Never said pettersson and Caufield are comparable but 3 years ago pettersson on a 8 year deal would be in the 8.5m-9.5m now, he’s in the 10-11.5m on a 8 year deal.
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If the Canucks didn’t spend 20m a season on 4th liners with “intangibles” pettersson would be signed to a very similar 8 year deal
now he’s gonna some in at double digits…still worth it though
Like Friedman says, the lesson here is ALWAYS sign your young players coming off ELC for as long as you can cause the price never goes down
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26 minutes ago, mikeyman109 said:
He was considered the BPA by the management and scouting group and also It sounds like Tkachuck told them he didnt want to play in Vancouver
Benning is on record for admitting he reached to take juolevi and regretted it
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2 minutes ago, mikeyman109 said:
Yeah been picking what everyone says is BPA for over 50 years and hows that developed into a championship. if you need a D you take a D.
Joulevi has entered the chat
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1 hour ago, MeanSeanBean said:
Would it though? Was trading Horvat a rebuilding move? It was a reallocation move, a re-tool, if you will. If the canucks made this trade, then used the 14th, or even our own 11th, to trade for a young unproven C who needs opportunity couldn't we make a trade similar to the Horvat deal?
Yes subsequent moves can be made but at the end of the day the current on ice product will get worse cause the Canucks won’t find another 80 point centre just lying around….they’ll have like Evan Rodrigues as their no.2 centre
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8yrs/10.5m
If he TRULY wants to stay this should be the easiest negotiation in Canucks history
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54 minutes ago, higgyfan said:
That would be considered a rebuilding move. I don't see the Canucks doing that. If they decide
to trade JT, there would have to be a top 4RD and/or a young player with #2C potential (already
playing 3C).
Unfortunately, I think you’re right.
it’s what they SHOULD do but won’t do it
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10 hours ago, ilduce39 said:
Will Dubas do this, though? He might want to make a splash but he’s also a big nerd.
If Pitt is as desperate to keep trying to win as we think. it’s highly possible they revisit Miller around the draft
Miller will be highly sought after cause there isn’t much in UFA for C
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30 minutes ago, wildcam said:
He had a very good consistent season really improved over previous season.. I sure hope he has a big year and gets 5--10 NHL games this year..
Kinda feels like it’s now or never to finally play a couple games in the show
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To van: pettersson, 2023 14th pick overall pick, 2024 1st round pick (top 10 protected or moves to an unprotected 2025 1st pick)
to pit: Miller
Canucks would have the opportunity to select a top C and top D in the top 15 of the draft
Moore and reinbacher? Sign me up!
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8 hours ago, mikeyman109 said:
The D is still a work in progress. after Hughes and Hronek Bear is probably the next best option. Myers and OEL are boat anchors and should play bottom 6 minutes. The one that impresses me so far is Hirose and may take a big step with the current coaching staff. I say we keep the 11 OA and draft the defenseman that is best at that pick.I know they are looking at Sandin Pellika but I would like someone with more snarl. maybe thats in the second round. Need someone that makes life miserable in the defensive zone. Myers just hasnt been that guy often enough.
***BPA not best defenseman available***
I could make a strong argument we need a young C more than anything cause after pettersson and Miller there’s nothing for the future except Raty who still needs another year in the A
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If he isn’t battling till the end for the no.7/8 dman spot on this team in training camp that’ll be really disappointing
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Who else here has messed around on cap friendly trying to find a series of moves that makes sense, are fair to all parties and makes this team better?
more specifically on D…it’s nearly impossible
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3 hours ago, zduck14 said:
With STL rebuilding, is there a chance Parayko would be available? Not sure what he would cost and, obviously it would take some work cap-wise (I think moving Myers and Garland would be enough to make it work) but I'd like to see a defensive group like this moving forward.
Hughes - Parayko
Soucy - Hronek
OEL - Bear
The only contract concern would be Hronek's raise but with Beauvillier off the books after next year and the expected rise in salary cap, it shouldn't be a big deal. Having guys like Raty, Lekkermaki, McDonough, etc. joining the big club over the next couple years while on their ELC's makes this defense possible as well.
Parayko is the next OEL
30yrs old and signed for 7 more years. He has a history of back injuries and isn’t that fleet of foot to begin with
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17 hours ago, coryberg said:
Actually Kravtsov and Filip Johansson were both first round picks.
I’m not counting those guys as “prospects” and they’re both reclamation projects as well
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Absolutely no to trading the 11th pick or trading down to unload money
we only have ONE 1st round draft pick in the prospect pipe line which is sad and patheticI do think there’s a path to deal with the Blackhawks involving Murphy, Myers and garland…there’s a combination in there somewhere
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[Buyout] Oliver Ekman-Larsson
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I think the underscore of this move is this was plan Z in clearing cap space and they’ve scoured the land and realized they couldn’t free up space in a trade without adding a sweetener or doing something crazy
point being, they cornered themselves AGAIN and the rest of the league knows it thus they had free up space internally