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7 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said:
He had 120 points in 1982-83 for Portland. I figured he'd be a gritty 40-50 point guy. And Watt was a jackass. I would have been fine with that trade if it was Pederson for Neely 1 for 1. But to throw in a top 5 draft pick??? Canucks got fleeced.
Ok touché. Just saying that both were known commodities and the Canucks have a history on giving up on draft picks (mostly recently they even pick) fairly quickly. And not developing them at all. So the Canucks would have probably ruined neelys career haha but who knows.
oel was a known BAD commodity so it’s obviously worse inho
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The Neely trade was a gamble. Nobody could see that coming as Neely was a middling player and could have worked out either way.
oel - everyone knew he was in decline. So it has to be that trade that is the worst.
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An immovable object meets an unstoppable force
an unmovable contract meets an unstoppable need.
RIP and FU benning!!!! Finally
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On 6/8/2023 at 12:30 PM, Timråfan said:
He had his spin doctors go over every post here.
The negative posters were attacked and the Benning fan posters said that the negative ones belongs to the HF board.
Claiming negative fans belonged on the HF board were pretty effective.
All GMs are equal. However some GMs are more equal than others!
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Or do you mean his alignment? Good or evil? Probably good. Question is what kind of good
lawful, chaotic or neutral good?
leaning towards chaotic good as there didn’t seem to be much of a plan - it always seemed that he valued players in trades for where they were years ago and not what they were at the time. Chaos resulted???
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Nobody who would make the oel trade can be considered good at being a gm.
Of course he also made the LE signing.
not to mention overspending on middling players who were not in the supposed window.
benning could draft - problem was he traded most of his draft picks away - or so it seemed!
he would be best suited to stay in a head scouting role. He was brilliant in that role with Vancouver. Too bad he was also the gm
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Improve the team next year? Or do nothing?
let’s see…. The average gm lasts just over 5 years. So you could say this current management is almost halfway done. They have no time to wait. they wait 2/3 years then get fired for not doing anything.
http://www.healthgeomatics.com/hockey-gm-tenure-length/
They have to try something. They have almost no other cards to play except for trading away first round picks.
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Howdy!
agree that giving up draft picks - first round picks especially - when you are not competitive is the definition of wishful thinking.
However the conundrum is that we have a top Center, D, and goaltender. So the time is now. Doesn’t matter that benning couldn’t trade his way out of a paper bag….. he did make some great picks. So the time is now. This trio of stars at 3 positions - and who are young - won’t always be here. We have 5-10 years as a window …. So I don’t mind the hronek trade as it falls into that window
painful though ya. Really though it is OEL and Myers. Last ditch efforts to avoid being fired. Short term gain - really short. And here we are. Can’t buy OEL out as it f**ks us for even longer. He is a player that should be happy to bounce around teams in his 30s to try to win - not make a first tier salary for crappy play. No respect for OEL.
anyways. This is the time. If we miss this 5-10 year window we wait another 20 years +…. See if it gets fun.
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Well... Hate to say that I told you so.
But all these expensive contracts for bottom 6 players cost us. Tofoli would look good as a canuck right now. and losing Tanev... painful. Sure he is on the downward side of his career - but the team could sure use him now.
All those posters who went on and on about the plan and assuring us all there would be money available.... well that just wasn't so. Not their fault - they didn't make those dumb contracts. not a big deal. but i do find it humorous ;)
The future: Well the team is holding onto its core. but we lost some really valuable support players because we overspent on players anyone could pick up for fairly cheap (or we got them in their prime as defensive forwards, but we didn't need them at that time). Anyways, we have to wait until the dead wood is off the books before we can compete again. this year is a write-off. don't tell me that every team has players on the books chewing up millions that are equally worthless to the scoresheet - those teams don't win cups. Anyways, i believe next year LE is off the books. and then we can consider actually winning again. And JB isn't making dumb contracts anymore. Its just too bad he couldn't have learned that lesson with another team... but thats what you get when you hire a rookie GM. you get the ups and downs.
Window opens again next season without LE! looking forward to it!
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Well he used to suck. Completely. Look at the contracts to the bottom 6. U could get that with half the money. This is the main reason the Canucks are not able to push through and win yet. Can’t wait until a few years when we can jetisson the mistakes.
now he seems to have learned and his contracts are reasonable - more like an experienced GM. Which isn’t surprising - he was a rookie GM when he started.
I like what he is doing now - I’ll bet he wish he could redo some of those Old contracts - beagle. Sutter. Rousel. Erickson. Just terrible contracts. Not terrible players.
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Size or speed on D? Probably speed.
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On 9/6/2020 at 8:52 PM, King Heffy said:
Reaves mostly was taking runs at Rooster instead of the rest of the team though. That has value.
Agreed. the D core needs a revamp. I really want to give the young guys we have in the prospect pool a good change. when they are ready.
The F lines were a bit slow - especially on the bottom 2 lines. Beagle looked better to me than Sutter (we need to keep one of them), he just needs some speed and size on his wings - Motte + ?... , and Sutter could probably be moved. The bottom 2 lines needed to take the forecheck to the knights, get the flow of the game going so the core can get on the ice in a better position, but were not able to match their intensity level - probably because they couldn't get there and couldn't win enough battles. I am excited about the new players coming up Hog and Pod look great for a 3rd line (with Beagle?).
The real problem is LE. the cap and the league is too tight to waste 6m in cap space and still compete for a cup. So we transition over the next 2 years until we can get rid of that contract. I would hope he could re-negotiate - all his major $ is paid already - and we could keep him at a good salary, as I don't mind what he can bring still, but not for 6m.
My only concern is that we sell Hog or Pod or Boeser for some quick term help - those players will be tough to find going forward??? probably??? . I wasn't a fan of the TT trade as I don't think we can keep him (I AM a fan of it if we can find a way to keep him) and we gave up too much for a rental. Madden would look better cap-wise right now - assuming he can play haha! The core would have had a good playoff run without TT anyways, so if we can't keep him fine - but we need to avoid that kind of mistake again.
Anyways, bit of a rant. Defintiely the transition - the middle of the ice - was a huge problem and we need bigger and speedier bottom 6 and d.
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I disagree with some of the posts.
virtanen. I thought he was ok. He threw his weight around a little. He scored in the Vegas series. He created some chaos. He fought. Threw some good hits. He will keep getting better these next few years
gaudette. He has the wheels. Just needs a few years. Cheap too. He is just going to get better.
agree motte should stay.
Mcewan- will improve. So young u have to give him a chance
what u need is a young bottom 6. With speed. Even if they don’t score a ton they can at least get to pucks and not get gemmed in their zone constantly.... And the goals will come if they play a forechecking pressure game
The team needs to find the bottom 6 from the draft. No money for overpaying FA in the bottom 6 anymore.... We got to get rid of the ones we have
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Quit complaining haha!
the team needs to learn that they need to play every playoff game with desperation. They haven’t learned that yet - but they will. It will take a while for them to reflect on the way the blues and then the knights were playing... especially the knights obviously.
the Canucks weren’t playing like it was overtime the whole game - but the knights were.
young team. Learning experience. This group can do a lot better and they should in the next few years. The support group for the stars will get better too - there are some slower players that have large contracts.... which is why the team wasn’t supposed to do anything yet! But the stars are so good they overcame it!
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On 9/1/2020 at 10:24 AM, spook007 said:
As we are getting better, I think they will be able to get players at a lower price, than they could while being bottom feeder.
Players are not blind... they can see something is cooking in Vancouver.
However fans have to make up their mind as well, do they want good players or not. MG collected a lot at discounted salaries, but the price were NMC's or NTC'...
I don't think we can have it both way.
Would rather spend the coin on some better talent - and then play the youngsters more.
assuming the existing team is a good environment - which I think it now is. That was a problem before.... so this is a chance to improve the team
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My worry with JB is that he overpays easily.
at least he has in the past - contracts for support players are too high... and might cost some of the core. We will see....
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The wingers are playing so wide - it isn’t working.
they need to be close instead of getting the puck on the boards each time. - ready to take a hit
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20 hours ago, 1-d said:
The biggest problem in our bottom 6 is the huge money tied up for such a little return. I believe we have the most expensive bottom 2 lines in the league... compared to what every other team has.
Yes... this team was designed to win once those players retired.... all I can assume.....
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Sutter is looking slow. LE - forget it....
bottom 6 is a bit of a problem - compared to what Vegas has.
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Also Vegas is a better team well rested. They put pressure on their opponents way better....
but they are old. Second game they were tired.
tomorrow they will be more tired. And we will tie it up. And then take the series. 4 games in 5 nights - as long as markstrom can hang in there we will win the series. It will go to 7
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Sometimes it is just about that extra sharpness. Being exact on a shot, making the save, etc.
it’s called finish
canucks don’t have it tonight. Vegas does.
markstrom found his game but is getting no run support
typically a team doesn’t find it halfway through a game. Too bad but we can tie it up tomorrow
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Brilliant read by Green.
the problem last game was only 1/2 Canucks would carry the puck up the ice from the defensive zone
that didn’t work so.... just treat your own zone like the offensive zone. All(well a lot) of players help bring the puck up the ice.
that works. That was the Vegas advantage - they attacked at the weak point - I guess the Canucks got away with an easy carry upside the last 2 series. Now the advantage is gone.
Brilliant read by Green.
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2 minutes ago, Dr. Crossbar said:
Excellent post!!! They needed to experience this tonight. Next level play.
Yes
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This series is a learning experience. The blues series was too with a tangible learned result. But this team is hungrier than the blues. Another level up.
[Proposal] Hannafin for first 2023?
in Proposals and Armchair GM'ing
Posted
https://www.canucksdaily.com/TRADE-PROPOSAL-Canucks-make-massive-offer-to-acquire-Noah-Hanifin-from-the-Calgary-Flames-247438
no guarantee that is a good source. But what would you think?