CanucksSayEh
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Who cares what we think, it's all about what the players think. If they are game, I am happy.
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In his defense, when you play 25-30 minutes a game for how many games straight.. I don't blame him for being sub-par lately. He was great when he needed to be and now when he's not on his game we need our other D to help him out.
I dunno, he's an Olympian now. How many minutes do the rest of Canada's blue line average? Serious question, I have no idea, but gotta imagine its up there. He's a great skater, and a great D-man, getting played like one shouldn't have such a rough effect. He's been pretty bad for much of the season. It's almost to the point where Tanev is babysitting him, like he did with Bieksa. Gotta step it up.
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I think Tanev is better than Gardiner but Gardiner has the name. If you asked any team what they thought of Tanev, they'd say "What's a Tanev?"
His reputation is starting to get out there, and rightfully so.
Tanev is soooo much better than Gardiner. Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much.
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I don't think that gets it done. While the value is probably there, I don't think they're going to offload him for a package. They're going to try and get the best defenseman possible for a 22yr old stud centreman. Tanevs as steady as they come but I'm sure someone else will offer up a better dman with serious intangibles. To outbid everyone else it'll probably cost edler.
God I hope so, Tanev is twice the D-man Edler is.
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A self centered prick with an oversize ego does not make a great captain.
I don't think Kes should be captain, but there is a long list of very successful ones that fit your description to the letter.
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I don't see Edler getting it done alone. Gonna have to add.
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i dont see the problem with having o'reilly and horvat. even if down the road horvat becomes close to what o'reilly is. just because o'reilly is a two way player, that doesnt put up a point per game, doesnt mean he cannot play first line minutes. brendan morrison was a solid 70 point, two way player, who played big minutes on the so called "top line in hockey at the time".
Yup no reason you can't have both, especially with Kes and ROR being great wingers. I would still look to deal Bo though, just because if we added Orielly, we could move Bo for 1 more piece and take a stab at the cup this year and next. Someone like Kane or Simmonds/Voracek added to ROR would stack our top 6 and leave us in great shape for the future.
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Oh you're talking about the ones that put up 70+ point seasons and get nominated for selkes while doing so? You clearly don't know what you're talking about.
So you're telling me acquiring Ryan O'Reilly will solve the canucks problem which is scoring. Sure he's still very young but he hasn't surpassed 18 goals in his career. And along with Ryan Kesler, jannik Hansen , Chris Higgins you think the canucks need another two way forward?
The canucks need a player who's job is solely to put the puck in the net
He has 18 goals now. Which would lead all Canucks..He's got 70 points in him one day, maybe as early as next year. Yea he helps us offensively.
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I see some proposals in here for "now" players. If we are making any trades, it is to help us long term not short term.
There are players that can do both, that would be nice.
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Nice to see Edler still sucks.
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I would rather pay ROR 10 than Edler 5.
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Still beleive we can have a good push this year and next. Next season could be a big year for us if we aquired a guy like Kane this year. He's at the perfect age for a breakout, as are many of our young players. Tanev will be a monster next season. Stanton and Corrado should both take a step forward, maybe making a guy like Edler more expendable. Kassian is primed to step up, him and Kane could very well share up to 60 goals. Lack will have a year under his belt, and can take a bigger load.
The core guys will pretty much be the same as they are now. More guys will get better than worse. A good FA signing, small depth trade..We could be a completely different team. It's gonna have to cost something, I see no reason to roll over and die. The future is gonna suck if we just idle on by. We don't have the prospects to build half the team we have now.
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If Mike Gillis gets fired he will get a job immediately with another team. He has strong reputation.
Hopefully with a rival.
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Yea I wouldn't really mind paying ROR 6.5.. He could very well outproduce Kes next year, maybe even the twins...
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I'd make a move for O'Reilly involving Edler. That would make Kesler expendable before his contract runs out. A lot of GMs would give an arm and a leg for Kesler because of his name. Gillis better be all over this.
Could afford both without Edler.
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Tanev is a gangster. You don't trade gangsters.
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Ott sucks. Rich and Santo are both better. Bring in a top winger so that it frees up one of em for the 3C job and gives em better linemates when they do.
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Canucks still doing it wrong, you don't go after Nolan. Go after Kopitar and Carter, that will send the message.
Works for gangsters, should be the same on the ice.
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Hamhuis is one of my favorite players, but it always seems as if he loses big games for the Canucks through bad pinches
Couple seasons now, yea it's becoming a habit. Wouldn't notice it as much if he wasn't expected to be so good, but he's an Olympian, and needs to tighten it up.
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Canucks need ott and Kane. This is playoff hockey for years to come and they are still short some muscle
I wouldn't call Ott muscle. Kane isn't particularly big, not a regular combatant either, but yea he can throw with the best of em. Fights angry, Bieksa like.
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If you were an NHL GM would YOU trade for Alex Edler right now if he waived his No-Trade clause? If he's willing to do that, my question would be why and I'd consider his wanting to leave Vancouver as a huge red flag.
Him sucking would be the only red flag. Agreeing to be traded is not a big deal, who would want to play for a team that wants them moved anyway. Business.
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Just want to see him crush Doughty again.
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And I suppose the mature Yzerman was in no way the player he was as a young center who didn't have the two way game he later developed, becoming one of the most complete players in the game?
I think you're seriously underestimating Bergeron.
Im not even sure what that question was? And we're talking about Jerome freakin Iginla. Heck he's like a dinosaur and still outproducing Bergeron on the same damn team this season, let alone prime.The gap is massive. Not that either of these players are involved in the discussion, just loose optimistic comparables.
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A potential Patrice Bergeron-like centre is way more of an impact player than a potential Jarome Iginla-like player who might play like him on the ice but has exhibited a serious lack of judgement off the ice on many occasions.
We're talking about a potential heir-apparent for when the Sedins retire, we're not talking about some guy that might pan out. The competitiveness, the polish and the discipline of the player all show us that he's bound be a very prolific offensive player in his future. There would have to be a complete shift in his development trajectory for us to give up on him.
He'll finish off the year in the OHL, work his ass off in the summer, come to training camp and try out for a spot with the team. He might even get to play a couple games, but at the end of the day I think he'll head back to the OHL. He'll wrap up another season there and then head to another summer of intense training. After that we'll have the option of sending him to the AHL. My guess is that he'll alternate between the NHL and the AHL during that season, when he's up hear he'll be getting the toughest minutes.
After that(3 years from now), I think he'll have enough polish to get thrown onto the 2C spot in his first season of NHL hockey.
Woahhhhhhhhh, in no way, in any shape or form, at all, is Bergeron close to the player Iggy was (prime/peak/whatever). In no way is that type of player better for a team simply because he won a cup (from the 2nd line at that).
He wouldn't be a Sedin replacement, but a Kesler one, who's also better than Bergeron. Ain't no Iggy though. Kane is also already proven to be a great player in this league. That certainty comes at a cost. Bo is more likely to be a 2nd punch, ala Kes/Richards/Couture/Bergeron ect. We still need the top scorers infront of him, and the overall team. We have most of that now, likely wont if we have to wait several years for a prospect to hit his stride.
Not that I think any deal there is available, pieces moved in the past may have got it done, but Peg has no interest in moving Kane for a prospect like Bo even with a hefty +.
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[Lebrun] Canucks covet O'Reilly and will deal defense to aquire him
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Gotta say, Tanev has easily outplayed Hamhuis this year. He's been solid all season. Hammer was really rough early on, and since being named to TC.
I like Corrado, but if we are talking about players like ROR, I wouldn't let him be a deal breaker.