[(Proposal) Vancouver & Columbus]

Columbus takes $18M in cap, gives Canucks $7.75.  Columbus doesn't do the deal even if they have $12M in free cap.  Also, who says they're trying to make the playoffs next year?  Their future 1C isn't drafted yet.  There's no rush.

 

Also, the Canucks are not moving their star goalie and point a game centre.  

 

The Canucks make moves but not core players 

[Offseason Moves - Trades and Signings (PROPOSAL)]

2 hours ago, qwijibo said:

It cost Calgary a 1st to move 1 year of Monahan @ $6m.  It all depends on how desperate Vancouver is to clear space 

I can see retaining half on Myers for a trade taking no cap back.  Add  a high pick, 4th or 5th say (it's not going to be a 2023 pick), for $3M relief for 1 year.

[(Proposal) - Boeser for Pageau]

1 hour ago, Alflives said:

Yup. Bo’s anomaly year (with us) was because he was cheating the game to put up points. Boeser becomes a top forward on the Island. But I’d target the Habs. They need a bigger bodied skilled winger to play on their top line. Boeser for Dvorak + 2nd would be a fair trade. 

Ya, Dvorak is younger (27), cheaper ($4.45 aav) and bigger (6-1, 200) but not as productive.

 

I would expect Pageau to be more productive on the Canucks but he's on the small side (5-10, 180) and 30 years old, $5M aav.  Just not fitting the profile.

[[Report] Maple Leafs name Brad Treliving as GM]

22 minutes ago, King Heffy said:

Not the best choice, but at least he'll have the sense to let the hockey people run things instead of relying on the analytics dweebs.  As bad as he is, he's still a clear upgrade over Dubas.

What baffles me is that Pittsburgh wants Dubas 

[[Discussion] Any possibility?]

Why are people so keen to offer up Hoglander.  He's a good prospect.  At least the new regime has the balls to do the right thing;  let him marinate in the minors until he is ready

[Fraser Health finds multiple hazards at Burnaby Tim Hortons (3433 North Road) following inspection last week, refers to areas as "breeding ground for egg-laying insects"]

1 hour ago, Nucklehead22 said:

The cleanliness is one thing. Potential of having bugs in your food, gross. The more concerning part is the hot holding. Eating a bug is gross, eating improperly cooked/held chicken is potentially fatal.

You're making things up now.  The report said that there were pools of water (which have the potential to attract egg laying insects).  This doesn't say that there are egg laying insects or that insects are laying eggs in pools of water.  And it certainly doesn't say that they are serving up food with bugs or larvae on it.  

 

You are right, the real concern in the report is that they're not following foodsafe guidelines.  That is, holding hot food above 65 degrees C or cold food below 5 degrees C.  Tims isn't exactly a high skill establishment.  The food that gets brought in is already cooked.  There is no raw chicken in the building.  All they have to do is warm it up so there is zero chance of salmonella poisoning (which could be fatal).  Holding food below 65 degrees allows bacteria to grow and will give a person a wonderful case of the shits.  News flash!  This happens all the time in the restaurant world and is one reason why you should be choosy about where you dine.  The rest of their issues can be dealt with in a matter of hours and I dare say it has already.  You clearly have never worked in a restaurant or appreciate how difficult staffing one really is.  

[Selling high, clearing]

20 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Which is why we’re trading Demko.

Another stupid discussion that I heard on 650 today.  Honestly, why do they waste oxygen discussing what will never happen.  I just shut them off.

[Fraser Health finds multiple hazards at Burnaby Tim Hortons (3433 North Road) following inspection last week, refers to areas as "breeding ground for egg-laying insects"]

I was in this restaurant today.  Not to buy anything but for work.  As a former chef, it's quite obvious that there are staffing issues at this location.  They are short staffed and several of the staff have not been trained.  I saw nothing that a good cleaning wouldn't fix.  The most experienced person, possibly the only experienced person was prepping the food.  The manager was not visible.

 

There is nothing going on here that hiring a couple of experienced food workers wouldn't fix.  Also, training up the staff they have.  It could be that they've lost their manager.  Interwest owns many Tims franchises and could easily transfer a few people from other outlets.  If they have lost their manager, they could promote someone from another location.  

[Selling high, clearing]

Silov's has only 5 NHL games and a 0.908 s%.  That's a tiny sample size and carries almost no weight.  Silovs just doesn't have any market value yet.  This amounts to a give away.  Pass.

[[Proposals] Next season roster]

Tryamkin again?  Give it up.

 

 

[[Discussion] Lucic to Van for 2 years 1-1.5M]

2 hours ago, Coconuts said:

Some folks will never let it go, and while I understand I just can't be bothered to join in. Same goes for Marchand. I'll always be bitter about that cup final but no, I don't care enough to hold on to grudges against either player forever. At the end of the day it was seven games, life goes on. I'll stick to shitting on Messier like many others.

 

I'm not advocating that we sign Lucic, but no, I don't think I'd fuss a whole lot if management signed him so long as the cost was reasonable. 

I wouldn't sign him because I think he's done.  He's had a heck of a career and was a force with Boston.  Power forwards tend to peak out early.  I think that Allvin won't sign him either for this reason and because he's 34 and they have more than enough wingers already

[(Proposal) Vancouver - Washington]

Don't want to move Hoglander.  I think the kid is going to be gold.

[[Discussion] Lucic to Van for 2 years 1-1.5M]

9 hours ago, Coconuts said:

Isn't he on record saying he'd like to play here at some point, wouldn't be surprised if his camp had interest 

After the despicable way he has been treated in Vancouver AND the way his family has been treated and even the Church his family attended vandalized, I'm surprised he wants anything to do with the lower mainland let alone live here.  I think the high feelings from hockey fans have subsided since he left Boston and his play tailed off but still.

 

If he said that he'd like to play here after all of that, he's a bigger man than I am

[Let's Not Panic -- Cap Situation is NOT that Dire]

6 hours ago, King Heffy said:

Dries belongs nowhere near an NHL roster.

Dries was the top centre in Abbotsford when the Canucks ran into injury trouble last year so up he came.  It was a smart move by Allvin given the circumstances but in no way should he be considered a permanent solution.  He was signed to lead the baby Canucks until bona fide prospects are ready to take the lead.

 

 He should be starting in Abbotsford in October

[(Proposal) 11th over all pick for Cody Glass]

17 hours ago, mll said:

 

Most of those players wouldn't even be available.

 

Dorion is desperately trying to upgrade his D-corps and says it's the hardest trade to make.  Why would they even consider moving Zub when he hasn't even started his new deal and Ottawa is looking to compete next season.  Dorion promised Giroux to convince him to sign that the rebuilding years are over and that it's go time.  

 

Cirelli also starting a new contract.  Tampa's window is now.  They just traded a boatload of picks for Jeannot because they couldn't care less about picks at this stage of their cycle as explained by BriseBois.  

 

Brodin is for sure not available - they are trying to compete despite having near 15M less in cap space than any other team.  Kaprizov in his prime and they need to show him that its worth extending there.  Brodin is expected to carry rookie Brock Faber in the top-4 as they aren't bringing Dumba back.  Per Russo the Wild would like a do over with the Rossi pick so he thinks they'd be willing to move him if they get a high 1st in this draft.  

 

Colorado also in their win now window with the MacKinnon extension kicking in.  Can't see them downgrading their D-corps in a win now window + Toews is on a great deal for a top pairing D.

 

Idem for Calgary.  This past season is to forget.  Weegar, Huberdeau are starting new deals, Kadri, Markstrom, Toffoli are all win now additions.  Conroy says his 1st call is to Lindholm.  Doesn't look like they are changing directions.  

 

I expect that as teams finish up their year end team reviews, that many players on this list will re-signed.  I really didn't consider whether I personally would trade the 11th OA for any of the players listed.  Some on the list would certainly be of interest to me but offering less than our top pick.  I just thought that it would be interesting to put the list out there because I saw no comment about the article on here and most on the list haven't been discussed as targets for the Canucks.

[[discussion] top 2 lines with our current roster]

Pizza Man is over rated by many imo

[(Proposal) 11th over all pick for Cody Glass]

Here's the list: (alphabetical order by team)

• Clayton Keller
• Brandon Carlo *
• Rasmus Anderson *
• Devon Toews
• Alexis Lafreniere
• Jonas Brodin
• Artem Zub *
• Anthony Cirelli *
• Timothy Liljegren
• Shea Theodore

* denotes players I like

 

[(Rumour) Canucks Blackhawks at the draft]

Scott Powers is a writer for the Athletic based out of Chicago.  If that's what an "insider" is.  Chicago's version of Drance.  Surely he's trying hard to drum up some interest in the team he covers as it is very quiet until the draft 

[Aquilini was livid that Canucks picked Juolevi over Tkachuk]

If Benning had a great relationship with Luigi Aquilini, that was his trump card

[[Signing] Vitali Kravstov signs with Traktor Chelyabinsk (KHL)]

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[[Signing] Vitali Kravstov signs with Traktor Chelyabinsk (KHL)]

6 minutes ago, McBackup said:

Who wouldn’t want to play for the Traktor?

[[Signing] Vitali Kravstov signs with Traktor Chelyabinsk (KHL)]

4 hours ago, NUCKER67 said:

Why would he prefer to play in the KHL instead of the NHL?  Tocchet has expectations, so he's giving up?  I can't see him coming back to the Canucks if he leaves. 

Because he can read the tea leaves.  He's not really good enough for the NHL and he's not willing to go to the AHL to learn.  So it's off to lovely Chelyabinsk.  It's near Yekaterinberg which is where Tryamkin plays.  East of the Urals (Asia) and south near Kazakstan (where Borat is from).

 

And you're right.  He's not coming back.

[[Report] Flames name Craig Conroy as GM]

1 hour ago, Diamonds said:

Personally I don't really see the comparison other than that Higgins works in management now. Conroy was a primary member of the Calgary cup run team and a major part of their leadership group. Higgins was on the Canucks 2011 cup run team, but very much a secondary player and wasn't in the organization as long.

 

Dave Babych might be a better comparable. He also came to the Canucks later in his career, was a member of a cup finals team, was a leader on the team, and later worked for the Canucks. Still not as important to the Canucks as Conroy was to the Flames, but more so than Higgins was I would say.

 

But at the moment, I would say the Canucks don't really have good comparable to Conroy.

I was thinking Ryan Johnson as an ex-player with the potential to be GM.  He certainly didn't have the playing career though

[Bennings terrible pro scouting and player analysis]

Oh good.  A whole thread on Benning.  This ought to be really productive 

[[article] Could that extra $3-4 million in rumoured cap space fix everything for the Canucks this offseason?]

1 hour ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

Gillis had his NTC's.

Benning had his overpayment contracts.

Both are bad for a team looking to build.

Benning always seemed to be scrambling.  It was always a struggle to find players to fill holes.  When he painted himself into a corner and he had a tough deal to make, he's say "if that happens, it's a good problem to have" or "we'll figure that out when we come to it".  The man rode by the seat of his pants.

 

I think the approach that you have to take is to look out 5 years in advance to manage the line up.  Teams like Carolina have always tried to keep the cap sustainable.  This summer, Allvin sure as hell better not be trusting that the cap will go up by $X when he's looking at renewing Petterson and Hronek in 2 years and in 3 years, making decisions on Boeser and Kuzmenko and in 4 years, Demko.  This is how it rolls.  You have to leave yourself open to sign these contracts and not screw yourself for the next year or the one after that.  Opportunities seem to come out of the blue.  You never know when and sometimes players unexpectedly earn higher than expected salaries.  That good fortune can't mean that you have to dump a player who you'd rather keep.