Bodee Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Yet ANOTHER Raymond thread...........how refreshing. One with a difference though. Mason Raymond is No.1 victim for all manner of crap being spouted by the "hockey intelligentsia" on here. Begs the question, human nature being what it is. "Who is the designated Raymond in the other 29 teams?" Could we build a "super team" playing out of Raymond , Wisconsin (The town is currently trying for a post office from USPS, but they have been told it is too small......now where have we heard that before........) with a roster of designated Raymonds?........... Am I the only one who thinks they would probably win a SC before we do?.................Afterall look at who have held past accolades for our team alone. Our designated Raymond's have been Lu, Bieksa, Ballard and the King himself..........not a bad start. I vote DownUnderCanuck to be coach, as his lateral thinking is so flexible and "way out there" there would never be any "failure" to alter tactics from one game to the next........................................often he would be seen experimenting with various lineups in the lunch time seating arrangements. J.D. Ball would obviously have to be assistant as they would need to "gain respect" on the ice and he obviously has the credentials to make that happen. ........His first action I am thinking would be to send the "King" himself for intensive "Gary Roberts" till he emerged a 220 lbs beast taking to the ice with the still warm remnants of raw flesh hanging out of his mouth. DeNiro with Baggins as GM and Assistant GM because they are two of the few on here who talk any sense. Their combined ability to pick "designated Raymonds" in the draft would be awesome, causing partying and drunkenness amongst the 3,500 inhabitants of Raymond at the very thought of their drafts potential for failing to stay upright or to assume the "butterfly" in time. So I wonder who the other team's may contribute...........don't be fooled.........this is NOT about bad players, it is about the misconceptions and the poor judgement of one-eyed fans everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teen Icarus Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Ehrhoff and Gragnani were known as awful players on SJ and BUF respectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-52 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 gragnani is awful, and ehrhoff isnt exactly impressing in buf atm either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I'll field the first question. Raymond for every team: Designations: 1. NHLer who was drafted by the team in question 2. Is fairly fast. 3. Has so-so scoring ability 4. Is fairly non-intimidating Boston: Vlad Sobotka TO: Viktor Stalberg Buffalo: Nathan Gerbe Montreal: Matt D'agostini Ottawa: Peter Regin Pittsburgh: Richard Park Philly: Justin Williams? NYR: Nigel Dawes NYI: Blake Comeau NJ: Nick Bergfors Washington: Eric Fehr Carolina: Zach Boychuk Florida: Evgeny Dadonov TB: Nikita Alexeev Winnipeg/Atlanta : Alex Burmistrov Calgary: Matt Lombardi Edmonton: Sam Gagner Minnesota: Benoit Pouliot Colorado: Woitek Wolski Chicago: Jack Skille Detroit: Darren Helm St. Louis: Lee Stempniak Nashville: Mike Santorelli Columbus: Derek Brassard Anaheim: Matt Cullen Dallas: Antti Miettinen Phoenix: Mikkel Boedker LA: Jeff Tambellini SJ: Devin Setoguchi A lot of those guys have moved on from their drafted teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 It's not that they're 'bad', but for the most part, it's because they're injury-prone. If they play a run 'n gun style with so-so success and they're relatively small compared to NHL defenders, then odds are they're going to be crushed eventually. That's what happened to Raymond and a lot of the guys on the list. When you look at Booth's transformation since coming here, it's like they told him 'Hey, you continue playing that way and it's only a matter of time before you get massively concussed again.' He's gone from one-dimensional speedster to psuedo-power foward. Or at least he's less likely to go up the middle of the ice with his head down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodee Posted July 13, 2012 Author Share Posted July 13, 2012 It's not that they're 'bad', but for the most part, it's because they're injury-prone. If they play a run 'n gun style with so-so success and they're relatively small compared to NHL defenders, then odds are they're going to be crushed eventually. That's what happened to Raymond and a lot of the guys on the list. When you look at Booth's transformation since coming here, it's like they told him 'Hey, you continue playing that way and it's only a matter of time before you get massively concussed again.' He's gone from one-dimensional speedster to psuedo-power foward. Or at least he's less likely to go up the middle of the ice with his head down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Against a bunch of solid NHLers, they'd likely crumble one by one. Maybe they'd be successful in the first or second post-lockout season, with all those 'p-fying' rule changes, but now? Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I'll field the first question. Raymond for every team: Designations: 1. NHLer who was drafted by the team in question 2. Is fairly fast. 3. Has so-so scoring ability 4. Is fairly non-intimidating Winnipeg/Atlanta : Alex Burmistrov Detroit: Darren Helm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 That's nice, but Burmistrov isn't/won't be all that great (Atlanta/Winnipeg doesn't have a lot of draft options to choose from anyway), and Helm just got hammered twice last season after seeing an increased role. Both are their respective teams' closest comparables at the moment, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vancanfan Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Abdelkader in Detroit, not Helm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodee Posted July 13, 2012 Author Share Posted July 13, 2012 I don't know if you really know much about either of these guys, but comparing them to Raymond is an insult. Helm is a fan favourite in Detroit, and is arguably one of the best 3rd line centres in the league. Burmistrov is a promising young player, who is already playing a solid checking line role, and has the potential to be one of the games better two-way forwards. He also isn't really a speedster, he is just a genuinely good skater. I agree with most of the people on the list, but these guys do not deserve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teen Icarus Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Did you mean respective whipping boys or respective Raymonds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Abdelkader in Detroit, not Helm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodee Posted July 14, 2012 Author Share Posted July 14, 2012 Did you mean respective whipping boys or respective Raymonds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uber_pwnzor Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Wtf is this... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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