Buddhas Hand Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 I think I replied to this in another thread...I remember saying they should totally invade Afghanistan and remove the Taliban from power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi Babe Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Evidently not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthNinja Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Aww, now don't underestimate yourself like that, DarthNinja_S19Blade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxi Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 to acknowledge the truth is that men make these rules and choices for themselves and women , and they are control mechanisms , as you say they are restrictive and mixed with a little/lot of behaviourial conditioning make for a happy little religious vegemite . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthNinja Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice (Saudi Arabia) From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (Redirected from Committee for the Propagation of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice (Saudi Arabia)) The Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice (abbreviated CPVPV; هيئة الأمر بالمعروف والنهي عن المنكر in Arabic and formerly called the Committee for the Propagation of Virtue and the Elimination of Sin or CAVES) or HAIA [1] is the Saudi Arabian government bureaucracy employing "religious police" or mutaween (مطوعين romanized in English) to enforce Sharia Law within that Islamic nation. (See Mutaween for a list of variant spellings and an extended description of Islamic religious police.) Its approximately 3,500 members, and many more volunteers, patrol the streets enforcing dress codes, strict separation of men and women, salah prayer by Muslims during prayer times, and other behavior it believes to be commanded by Islam. They are known for having full beards (sometimes henna-dyed) and for wearing their headscarves (ghutrah or shemagh) loose without an agal; they often wear a besht as well. Prior to the reforms of 2007 they were armed with thin wooden canes. Enforcement The religious police in Saudi Arabia are employed in direct order of command from King Abdullah. They are tasked with enforcing Sharia as defined in Saudi Arabia. In addition to having the power to arrest anyone engaged in homosexual acts, prostitution, fornication, or proselytizing of non-Muslim religions, they can also arrest unrelated males and females caught socializing, enforce Islamic dress-codes, Muslim dietary laws (such as the prohibition from eating pork) and store closures during the prayer time. They prohibit the consumption or sale of alcoholic beverages and seize banned consumer products and media regarded contrary to Islamic morals. They also actively prevent the religious practices of other religions within Saudi Arabia.[2][3] Saudi mutaween are often accompanied by the regular police, but also patrol without police escort. They recently launched a website on which un-Islamic behavior can be reported.[4][5] While on patrol, the duties of the mutaween include, but are not restricted to:ensuring that drugs and alcohol are not being traded.checking that women wear the abaya, a traditional all-enveloping black cloak.making sure that men and women who are spotted together in public are related.ensuring women do not smoke in public.formerly, enforcing the ban on camera phones. This ban was enacted out of a fear that men would use them to secretly photograph women and publish them on the Internet without the consent of the subjects. The ban was enacted in April 2004 but was overturned in December that same year.[6]preventing the population from engaging in "frivolous" Western customs such as Valentine's Day. The punishment for such offenses is severe, often involving beatings and humiliation, and foreigners are not excluded from arrest. The mutaween encourage people to inform on others they know who are suspected of acting unvirtuously, and to punish such activities. A 27-year-old Saudi man was sentenced to five years in prison, 500 lashes of the whip, and a SR50,000 fine after appearing in a recent amateur gay video online allegedly taken inside a Jeddah prison. A source[who?] said, “The District Court sentenced the accused in a homosexuality case that was referred to it by the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice (the Hai’a) in Jeddah before he was tried for impersonating a security man and behaving shamefully and with conduct violating the Islamic teachings.” The case started when the Hai’a’s staff arrested the man under charges of practicing homosexuality. He was referred to the Bureau for Investigation and Prosecution, which referred him to the District Court.[7] Among the Western practices suppressed by the Mutaween is the celebration of Valentine's Day. Condemning the festivities as a "pagan feast", Mutaween inspect hotels, restaurants, coffeehouses, and gift shops on February 14 to prevent Muslim couples from giving each other Valentines or other presents. The sale of red roses, red stuffed animals, red greeting cards and other red gift items is banned, according to store owners. These items are confiscated, and those selling them subject to prosecution.[8][9] The sale of the fashion doll Barbie was banned as a consumer product for posing a moral threat to Islam,[10] stating: "Jewish Barbie dolls, with their revealing clothes and shameful postures, accessories and tools are a symbol of decadence to the perverted West. Let us beware of her dangers and be careful."[11] Fulla dolls were designed and approved as more acceptable. More recently, the police have issued a decree banning the sale of dogs and cats, also seen as a sign of Western influence. The decree which applies to the Red Sea port city of Jeddah and the holy city of Mecca bans the sale of cats and dogs because "some youths have been buying them and parading them in public," according to a memo from the Municipal Affairs Ministry to Jeddah’s city government.[12] In December 2010 it was reported by Arab News that the Hai'a had launched a massive campaign against black magic in the Kingdom. Despite the refusal of some Saudi lawyers to take on prosecution of such claims some Saudis believe that they have been caused harm by the black magic acts of others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthNinja Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 So, you've been inside with Freemasons have you? Ever talked with one? Done anything more than swallow the conspiracy bullsh*t that abounds regarding their organization? You really do need to do a little more research......the open-minded, critical thinking kind....not just the biased conspiracy garbage floating around kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi Babe Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 No, no Betuzzi Babe, clearly my error was overestimating yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 I see, so amid their treacherous oppression and subjectification, they pause for a brief second to say 'cheese' for the camera. Or maybe...maybe...'their husbands will beat them' if they don't smile right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi Babe Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Do you even have a clue who Albert Pike, Manley P Hall and Aleister Crowley are? So, you've been inside with gang members and the mob have you? Ever talked with one? Done anything more than swallow the conspiracy bullsh*t that abounds regarding their organization? You really do need to do a little more research......the open-minded, critical thinking kind....not just the biased conspiracy garbage floating around kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthNinja Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Well, considering your past statements regarding me, it is rather clear that the opposite of this statement ^^ is true. Need to own it, DarthNinja_S19Blade, just own it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi Babe Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 I need to own the fact that you completely failed at understanding some basic words that were not even directed at you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddhas Hand Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthNinja Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 No really....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi Babe Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 I'm sorry, I don't understand what that means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 I'm sorry, I don't understand what that means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthNinja Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 I know exactly who they are, thanks. I've done more research into this topic than you can possibly imagine. Gang members and mob? Funny, I thought the off-the-on-topic tangent we were discussing atm was yours regarding BS conspiracy crap about Freemasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthNinja Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Should she dumb it down for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi Babe Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 You know exactly who they are after Googling them and researching them after I informed you of them you mean? But I'll just prove everything you are saying wrong by simply labeling it as BS conspiracy crap. See how smart I am? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthNinja Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 mate you can dress it up anyway you want but the fact is that islam has gone from being a tolerant religion [first thousand years or so], to a religion that has/is disenfranchising women and persecutes those who do not follow their beliefs .it is basically a bunch of perverted men trying to hold on to their percieved power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Aww look at that...how sweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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