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#241 jyip

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:06 PM

Sorry,he stated that he spent more time on Hodgson's issues than any other player.Commented.
If he had uttered specifics his rear end is in endless litigation.
If he was secure in his position as GM he would have not commented on his discussions of any player.
He deflected the trade pretty soundly onto the shoulders of a rookie.

Sounds like MG is whinning. Didn't CoHo get misdiagnosed by Canuck's doctors and was in the doghouse for not wanting to play with a yet-to-be diagnosed injury?

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:07 PM

MG is not going to say "Yes, and I plan to fire AV. Surprise!"
If AV gets sh*tcanned, which I think most people believe will happen, it will not be at a press conference.
Odds are AV is gone . . . with Lou.

Why would AV or any of the current mangement be gone? Take a look at the teams in the West that have made it past round one. All of them are teams that were on the bottom or close to the bottom of peoples lists of who would likely make it out. Furthermore, AV is the winningest coach in Canucks history, lead the team to 2 straight Pres' trophies and to the Stanley Cup Final (Game 7). To assume he is gone would be stupid.
As for Luo, the same goes. He's waived his NTC, but given his previous stats the likelyhood of him leaving is still slim, unless management chooses to roll the dice with Schneider, even though it wouldn't be a HUGE risk.
And to assume BOTH would be gone is ridiculous. You're talking a massive revamp of our organization because we underestimated our first round opponent, greatly.
There is no logic in giving away BOTH of our most successful pieces in order to improve.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:07 PM

Sorry,he stated that he spent more time on Hodgson's issues than any other player.Commented.
If he had uttered specifics his rear end is in endless litigation.
If he was secure in his position as GM he would have not commented on his discussions of any player.
He deflected the trade pretty soundly onto the shoulders of a rookie.


If the issue persists and becomes a bit of a distraction and a source of constant speculation, why not put it to rest at the appropriate time?

I agree 100% with MG finally setting the record straight. I believe he's done with having to answer for this and it needs to go away now.

The rookie's camp volunteered themselves for that shouldering by worrying about ice time and things that were, ultimately, coach and managment worries. Not theirs. Their deal was to help support that rookie in the best way they could, but that doesn't involve trying to run his team because there are people in place for that. So his camp owns this one. And it's finally going to be put to rest...thank you MG.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:08 PM

So Luo said he would waive his NTC? Man, must be alot of pressure on him to SAY that. I'll be sad if he goes, but happy for what he may bring.

We need:

Norris Caliber defencemen
Younger, fresher players (Jensen? Schroeder?)
Schneid's signed again with maybe Lack as backup.
Playmaking winger (maybe even centre?) for kes

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:12 PM

I am not convinced AV won't be gone (I hate it if it's true - he is my favourite coach ever). But, with the way MG was praising him in almost an apologetic way, it wouldn't surprise me if this wasn't being considered. Sheer speculation on my part, but I read a little of that in between the lines. Probably so far off, but my gut told me that MG was taking the brunt of this because he's in protective mode with AV, who may take the fall for this. Again, nothing but my own feeling....

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:14 PM

Cody wanted out of Vancouver and now luongo does too.

MG comparing us to Columbus.

What a joke our market is becoming.


First of all its looking like cody was the only one that wanted out of van, did I miss the part where luo said the same thing. Luongo said he is willng to waive his clause because he knows schnieder is a great young goalie and he is only going to get better, and himself is becoming older. MG used the cbj phrase for the medis because of the way they were acting. I dont know how you come up with your sources but atleast take the time to evaluate them.
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:14 PM

An I the only one pissed off at his comment about the team not being the same since the Boston game in January? For real Gillis?

Pathetic if it's an excuse and pathetic if true.
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:17 PM

An I the only one pissed off at his comment about the team not being the same since the Boston game in January? For real Gillis?

Pathetic if it's an excuse and pathetic if true.


Stating a fact is not an excuse. Nor is it pathetic. Anyone with half a brain could see that we weren't the same team after that game. :rolleyes:

Yes, I do believe you are very much in the minority for being pissed off about that comment.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:18 PM

I am not convinced AV won't be gone (I hate it if it's true - he is my favourite coach ever). But, with the way MG was praising him in almost an apologetic way, it wouldn't surprise me if this wasn't being considered. Sheer speculation on my part, but I read a little of that in between the lines. Probably so far off, but my gut told me that MG was taking the brunt of this because he's in protection mode of AV, who may take the fall for this. Again, nothing but my own feeling....

I like AV too but I have a feeling that he may go as well. The problem is who's out there you can consider better than him? I haven't agreed with everything AV has done but for those wishing for another coach remember the saying "be careful for what you wish for". Let's remember, all you AV bashers, he took this team to 2 straight President trophy's and game 7 of the Stanley Cup final. No matter how good your players are this is no small feat.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:22 PM

Is there a link to the interview in full?

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:23 PM

I am not convinced AV won't be gone (I hate it if it's true - he is my favourite coach ever).  But, with the way MG was praising him in almost an apologetic way, it wouldn't surprise me if this wasn't being considered.  Sheer speculation on my part, but I read a little of that in between the lines.  Probably so far off, but my gut told me that MG was taking the brunt of this because he's in protective mode with AV, who may take the fall for this.  Again, nothing but my own feeling....


If it were Burke making the statement, it'd be a lead pipe cinch that the axe would be falling on AV.

With Gillis, it's hard to say. I think he'd like to retain the coach, but is playing it close to the vest until he hears what Aquilini has to say.
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:24 PM

First of all its looking like cody was the only one that wanted out of van, did I miss the part where luo said the same thing. Luongo said he is willng to waive his clause because he knows schnieder is a great young goalie and he is only going to get better, and himself is becoming older. MG used the cbj phrase for the medis because of the way they were acting. I dont know how you come up with your sources but atleast take the time to evaluate them.


If Cody wanted to stay he would still be here. It was a terrible trade that had to be made. Then we lacked secondary scoring and collapsed in the first round of the playoffs. Now the market is crapping on the team(who went to the SCF) and disrespecting everything Lu did. Now Lu is opening stating he can be traded and people think that is going to win us a Stanley cup?

Trading Hodgson put us further away from the cup this year. Proof is the first round exit and lack of secondary scoring. Now we are going to lose luongo by the sounds of it. You think a first round exit this year was bad. Wait till next year without luongo.

If you like looking at statistics to determine who's better, you're just a casual fan.

2.41 season GAA isn't very impressive. Let's not get into playoffs and his SV%.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:25 PM

They were mentally strong enough to win the Presidents trophy again but not enough to get out of the first round?

I'd love to hear the spin on the that one.


He didn't really spin it. He stated that the team kept picking up wins despite not playing well due to great goaltending. He feels we have a very good team that could still overcome tepid play in the regular season. Not so much with a motivated playoff opponent.
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:26 PM

If the issue persists and becomes a bit of a distraction and a source of constant speculation, why not put it to rest at the appropriate time?

I agree 100% with MG finally setting the record straight. I believe he's done with having to answer for this and it needs to go away now.

The rookie's camp volunteered themselves for that shouldering by worrying about ice time and things that were, ultimately, coach and managment worries. Not theirs. Their deal was to help support that rookie in the best way they could, but that doesn't involve trying to run his team because there are people in place for that. So his camp owns this one. And it's finally going to be put to rest...thank you MG.


Gillis was a player agent and his main competitor was Rich.

Gillis just kicked him in the groin and attempted to deflect his responsibility trading his client without bettering the CANUCKS when it was very much needed.

Winter is going to reopen this whole can of worms as Gillis does not get the last word in a relationship that has more than one party.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:26 PM

Just because MG gave Raymond a good review doesn't mean he has any intention of re-signing him, or that Raymond would even re-sign with us. Mayray is going to be a UFA, correct? He'll be in charge of his own destiny, he can go to whichever team that wants him, if any.

MG is just not burning any bridges there, and he's doing what any good boss should do: Giving a good reference.


Yep, I wouldn't read too much into it. If any other teams are paying attention to this, they might take a shot at signing Raymond. However, if MG said about Raymond what the majority of us have said, Raymond might find himself in Europe or the AHL next season.

And there is still the opportunity to trade negotiating rights until July 1st. You don't want to slam your own players when you might get an asset or two out of it.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:28 PM

I am not convinced AV won't be gone (I hate it if it's true - he is my favourite coach ever). But, with the way MG was praising him in almost an apologetic way, it wouldn't surprise me if this wasn't being considered. Sheer speculation on my part, but I read a little of that in between the lines. Probably so far off, but my gut told me that MG was taking the brunt of this because he's in protective mode with AV, who may take the fall for this. Again, nothing but my own feeling....


He's gone. If he wasn't he would have been made available today.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:28 PM

Raymond's the new captain

HAHAHA yes!

There better not be any complaining about not getting the bounces.

oh my Gosh, so annoying. At some point its not about bounces its about creating something other than bounce/rebound goals.

Lol, that would totally be very gillis of him to give a speech we've heard over and over to the point we can just type up what's covered right now.

SO ANNOYING. good point

Gillis won't make the same mistake like what he did with Hodgson.

They have approved to give in to Raymond's demand of more ice-time.

HAHAHAHA YES!

That's the least of our worries. I'm still wondering if we will have to sit through another Quenneville tearfest before these playoffs are out :P

oh man. Good Coach, but definitely a child. He's perfect for Chicago
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:31 PM

Gillis was a player agent and his main competitor was Rich.

Gillis just kicked him in the groin and attempted to deflect his responsibility trading his client without bettering the CANUCKS when it was very much needed.

Winter is going to open this whole can of worms wide open as Gillis does not get the last word in a relationship that has more than one party.


My money would be on Gillis.

Point also being that Cody's new team didn't make it (either)...so it will always remain an unanswered question. There is no proof that Cody would have been the difference and, if he was a negative energy, my guess is he wouldn't have been.

MG didn't deflect anything....he was being pushed and called the bluff. I admire that he won't be held hostage or bullied...it's a great quality and something that he's demonstrated throughout his involvement in the hockey world. Goes way back in his unwavering stance that is usually backed by integrity and staying true to himself. Winter just overstepped his boundaries and it becomes a matter of "know your role....(and shut your mouth)".

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:32 PM

Can't believe people think keeping Hodgson would have benefited us more in the playoffs, he clearly wanted out and his bad attitude probably would have affected all of our players. Hopefully he's better to the Sabres organization.


Well, I think just about anything would have been better than being ousted in 5 games. Are you saying that with Hodgson instead of Kassian, we would have been swept?

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:36 PM

Why are we blaming CoHo for wanting more minutes? Don't we want him to succeed here? With Kesler's injuries ... why didn't AV give CoHo more and more minutes? Now we know why CoHo production dropped off sharply ... he was getting pee'd off for busting his butt off and still not getting the type of minutes that Kesler or Raymond are getting. my 2 cents

He didn't get minutes because he was a defensive liability, plain and simple. If anything they played him with Higgins and Hansen to hide that liability.

I was interested in seeing Hodgson flourish here as well but it sounds to me like he had become a major distraction. See ya Cody!
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:37 PM

As if the team could use much more drama MG lays a huge goose egg.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:39 PM

Is Mac T in attendence :bigblush:


Can't even win a playoff game in the AHL

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:40 PM

My money would be on Gillis.

Point also being that Cody's new team didn't make it (either)...so it will always remain an unanswered question. There is no proof that Cody would have been the difference and, if he was a negative energy, my guess is he wouldn't have been.

MG didn't deflect anything....he was being pushed and called the bluff. I admire that he won't be held hostage or bullied...it's a great quality and something that he's demonstrated throughout his involvement in the hockey world. Goes way back in his unwavering stance that is usually backed by integrity and staying true to himself. Winter just overstepped his boundaries and it becomes a matter of "know your role....(and shut your mouth)".


Imo, nobody brings more negative energy to the Canucks than Kesler. There is no proof Hodgson brought any negative energy to the locker room.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:45 PM

It sounded as if Cody Hodgson may have asked for a trade a long time before it happened.
MG said that he spent more time on Coy's problems than any other player so they took the time to make him into the type of player that they could trade for one of 6 players that they targetted. Note.....he never said that Cody asked for a trade. It sounds more like Cody was a high maintenance player who was a pain in the ass so they shipped him out for what they considered fair value. I have to respect MG for handling the problem behind the scenes. Cody is going to be a great hockey player and sad to hear that he wasn't happy here but if he didn't really want to be here, MG had little choice but to accomodate him. Kudos to Hodgson for keeping his mouth shut as well.
For me, I am happy that the air has been cleared on the Hodgson drama and that I can finally put it to rest.
He also said that they will have to develop Kassian into the type of player that they think he can be....in other words a project. He also had good things to say about Phaulson.
MG said that he will always keep his focus on having better scoring teams in Vancouver instead of the low scoring styles of teams like Nashville. With that, I hope he is going to go out and acquire some snipers with size.
He also said that the decision on whether or not they will keep the same coaching staff....he said that he would meet with the owners to discuss that.
I would like AV to stay on as coach but the special teams coached should be held accountable. Whether or not we like AV or not or whether or not MG likes AV, the decision is in the owners hands.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:45 PM

I think I deserve an apology for all the people telling me to shut up at the Buffalo game when I continuely Boo'd Hodgson....
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:46 PM

I agree with you.

If he scored a couple of goals...his stock would be much higher. If he didn't get any points...his value wouldn't have dropped as much since the whole team played terrible (except the goalies).

Nucks may have gotten Kassian + 1st rather than Kassian + MAG. Or even Toronto's 5th overall pick.

Meh...what's done is done.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:51 PM

video of the conference??

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:53 PM

Imo, nobody brings more negative energy to the Canucks than Kesler. There is no proof Hodgson brought any negative energy to the locker room.


That's true. Kesler does seem more arrogant than any other Canucks.. you can see it in both the interviews and in game.

This Hodgson news is turning out to be bad news for the Canucks. Why? Because it means Gillis didn't acquire Kassian because he was awesome, or that Hodgson was dud, but because of other political bullsh*t. Bad trade.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:55 PM

when asked about rookies the first name he said was jensen , i know people are shooting down the idea of him being on our team , but he has the size and the skill



and how do any of you know what kesler brings to the locker room

pathetic to even try to talk about what happens in a place you never have been

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:58 PM

when asked about rookies the first name he said was jensen , i know people are shooting down the idea of him being on our team , but he has the size and the skill



and how do any of you know what kesler brings to the locker room

pathetic to even try to talk about what happens in a place you never have been


No doubt he is the Canucks best remaining prospect. Schroeder is not really producing that well in Chiacgo despite being given top minutes all year.

I think Jensen will be a good Nhler




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