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#31 Nathan MacKinnon

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:03 PM

GLASSJAW and King of the ES are two of the most ignorant people I know

WTF....

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:05 PM

glassjaw is one of the best posters on this website

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:06 PM

GLASSJAW and King of the ES are two of the most ignorant people I know

WTF....


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glassjaw is one of the best posters on this website


ty and you have the best user name on this website

Edited by GLASSJAW, 11 December 2012 - 10:07 PM.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:08 PM

No but it doesn't make you any less of a pretencious douche.

If people want to be shocked or give their well wishes to a situation not involving them, why stop them? Sure it probably doesn't help but it doesn't hurt either


Violence like this violence, random and chaotic, stands as an example that any of us, anywhere, could experience .. it should strike home the message that societies that embrace a "gun culture" shall suffer the consequence .. I hope all your folks are safe ..

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#35 GLASSJAW

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:09 PM

No but it doesn't make you any less of a pretencious douche.

If people want to be shocked or give their well wishes to a situation not involving them, why stop them? Sure it probably doesn't help but it doesn't hurt either


i'm not stopping them. the entire "local news" industry revolves around this kind of garbage. people ENJOY examining this type of tragedy from a safe distance

you're right, it doesn't help, and it doesn't hurt. it's completely... meaningless for almost every single person who reads it, except those directly local to the event

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:10 PM

I am glad for conceal to carry, as much as I am glad for the castle doctrine.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:13 PM

i'm not stopping them. the entire "local news" industry revolves around this kind of garbage. people ENJOY examining this type of tragedy from a safe distance

you're right, it doesn't help, and it doesn't hurt. it's completely... meaningless for almost every single person who reads it, except those directly local to the event


I can agree with this, however my anger came from it being close to home for me

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:14 PM

hug it out

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:14 PM

read the part that comes after the bolded section

i'm making fun of people like you

keep pretending to care

it's worthless, irrelevant information. you read it because it's tragic and shocking, not because it serves you any value


No, I read it because it is a news article. I read it because I want to know whats going on in my city, country and the world. That is the whole point of news, to know what the hell is going on around you when you are too busy working or sitting at home.

PS. If you get entertained from these type of news stories, why not just watch a horror movie?

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:17 PM

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:21 PM

i'm not stopping them. the entire "local news" industry revolves around this kind of garbage. people ENJOY examining this type of tragedy from a safe distance

you're right, it doesn't help, and it doesn't hurt. it's completely... meaningless for almost every single person who reads it, except those directly local to the event


GLASSJAW has a point here. Tragedies and other violent stories are what local news are usually centered around. It's sort of like "misery-porn." We may not be completely aware of it, but as regular human beings, we enjoy, or are interested more in stories that involve other people's miseries.

We're automatically drawn to titles headlines "Shooting at..." or "Massacre in..." etc.

Be honest, what pops out more? The headlines above, or something like "Bill C-[imaginary number] passes Parliament."

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:21 PM

Ikea doesn't have underground parking in Richmond to my knowledge


If they did, it would be underwater. The Vancouver Sun is a joke when is comes to actual journalism.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:30 PM

No, I read it because it is a news article. I read it because I want to know whats going on in my city, country and the world. That is the whole point of news, to know what the hell is going on around you when you are too busy working or sitting at home.

PS. If you get entertained from these type of news stories, why not just watch a horror movie?


Pouria, you don't get it. I don't find these entertaining, I was being sarcastic.

information-action ratio, neil postman, blah blah blah

it's just meaningless information, and not at all a representation of the world around you. just a very tiny, meaningless slice of it.

for the record, i do enjoy a good horror movie from time to time.

reading the local news about a Topeka bank robbery, on the other hand, is the intellectual equivalent of a twinkie

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:39 PM

If they did, it would be underwater. The Vancouver Sun is a joke when is comes to actual journalism.


I haven't been to the Richmond IKEA but the parking lot was covered. Most likely street level or raised and not underground.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 11:04 PM

GLASSJAW has a point here. Tragedies and other violent stories are what local news are usually centered around. It's sort of like "misery-porn." We may not be completely aware of it, but as regular human beings, we enjoy, or are interested more in stories that involve other people's miseries.

We're automatically drawn to titles headlines "Shooting at..." or "Massacre in..." etc.

Be honest, what pops out more? The headlines above, or something like "Bill C-[imaginary number] passes Parliament."


Well, if it is based on how relevant it should be to you then News would only be about Canadian elections and government's decisions that impact the general public. I mean why would we care about war on Iraq, the conflict in Palestine, Japan Tsunami, hurricane Katrina or breast cancer research? right? News is supposed to inform us of current events whether a major or a minor event.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 11:38 PM

Well, if it is based on how relevant it should be to you then News would only be about Canadian elections and government's decisions that impact the general public. I mean why would we care about war on Iraq, the conflict in Palestine, Japan Tsunami, hurricane Katrina or breast cancer research? right? News is supposed to inform us of current events whether a major or a minor event.


We should care about those things. I'm trying to point out how we get too many minor events on local news stations these days, but they're put there in order to increase viewership, because we as humans have a natural tendency to been more drawn towards news stories of a handful people being shot at a mall, or a school. Even with the stories about Syria and conflicts in Palestine, we're only provided stories that have headlines such as "Hospital bombing kills 50 in Syria as the violence continues," etc. We're never provided with the politics or actual analysis of the conflicts, the more important things that people should be informed about.

Every time I turn on Global BC or CTV News, all I see during their "World News" section is just another 30 second snippet of more people being killed in the crossfire of these wars. As harsh as this sounds, that happens everyday, and we don't need to be reminded of that on an everyday basis, we know it happens, it's the obvious, yet tragic reality of war. How about providing some actual useful insight and analysis on the war? The progress? Did the rebels take over another part of Syria? Is the UN going to intervene? You know, stuff like that?

Instead, we get stories like these every single day: shootings in malls, or a car chase that results in a huge car pile-up on some random highway. How about just briefly mentioning those stories instead and moving on to more important issues? I mean, the Quebec elections weren't even covered at our local news stations? Why? Just because Quebec is on the opposite side of the country? What about bills passing in parliament? What's going on in our government? What about the economy?

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