Ossi Vaananen Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 I like the support deb, but even I want to see the source for that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 I'm not in BC.....nor Canada....I'm in the US...where Tobacco is a cash crop...and none of that applies here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpcurtly Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 <p><br /> </p> Til you drink enough to override common sense, then look out. Talk about a strawman argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 You are refusing to acknowledge that the effects of alcholol fueled violence and the actions of drunk drivers , affect a greater percentage of our population , than second hand smoke does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Hartnell's Mane Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 OK, here you go - one year of stats in the US: In 2010, 10,228 people were killed in alcohol-impaired driving crashes, accounting for nearly one-third (31%) of all traffic-related deaths in the United States. Secondhand smoke exposure causes an estimated 46,000 heart disease deaths annually among adult nonsmokers in the United States. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddhas Hand Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 OK, here you go - one year of stats in the US: In 2010, 10,228 people were killed in alcohol-impaired driving crashes, accounting for nearly one-third (31%) of all traffic-related deaths in the United States. Secondhand smoke exposure causes an estimated 46,000 heart disease deaths annually among adult nonsmokers in the United States. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Hartnell's Mane Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Since this message board is pretty much BC centric your rants have little relevance then. And i would suggest that you not considering visiting given your inflated sense of self entitlement. And there are even more restrictions on smoking within the City of Vancouver. The Vancouver Park Board has a bylaw in effect Since September 2010 that prohibits people from smoking in the city’s parks, beaches, playgrounds, and golf courses. And Vancouver extends the provincial smoke free buffer zone from three to six meters and includes customer service areas such as food carts, outdoor patios etc (“customer service area” means a partially enclosed or unenclosed area, including a balcony, patio, yard or sidewalk, that is part of or connected to or associated with a business or use in a building or premises that includes the service of food or alcoholic drinks to customers or other persons for consumption on site;) : (e) within six metres measured on the ground from a point directly below any point of any opening into any building including any door or window that opens or any air intake; (f) in a customer service area; or (g) within six metres of the perimeter of a customer service area. http://former.vancou...ylaws/9535c.PDF Other municipalities also have rules that may be more restrictive than the BC law. Metro Vancouver (22 municipalities in the Lower Mainland, one electoral area, and one treaty First Nation ) also introduced a smoking ban in 33 regional parks. http://www.metrovanc...es/default.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 I'd suggest you get bent. I have as much right to speak on this board as you do. And who the hell do you think you are telling me not to consider visiting? Here's a newsflash for you...I'll visit if I damn well feel like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddhas Hand Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 I am aware of the effects but they are completely different from exposure to second hand smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Hartnell's Mane Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Feel free to do so but I would suggest that you leave your belligerence at home and obey the laws of the land when you arrive. You appear to have some serious mental issues. You may want to consider dealing with those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpcurtly Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Many places are now considered unsafe in melbourne due to intoxicated people wandering the streets commiting acts of violence , the same cannot be said for the effects of second hand smoke . What i have been trying to point out is that the negative effects of alcohol consumption touch a greater percentage of people than the negative effects of second hand smoke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Many places are now considered unsafe in melbourne due to intoxicated people wandering the streets commiting acts of violence , the same cannot be said for the effects of second hand smoke . What i have been trying to point out is that the negative effects of alcohol consumption touch a greater percentage of people than the negative effects of second hand smoke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 And who are you, Sigmund Freud now? I'm perfectly calm, my friend...I'm speaking MY OPINION on a debate about smoking. Now...seeing as how I am on-topic with everything I am posting, and also seeing as how you feel it's your duty to psychoanalyze an anonymous poster on an internet message board...I think it may be you who has the mental issues...namely "delusions of grandeur" when it comes to your own opinion. I've already stated that I no longer smoke cigarettes, but I have friends who do...and as long as tobacco is legal...they oughta be able to smoke anyplace they want as long as it's an adult establishment and not a family restaurant or something like that. Just because I live in a different area than the one you are blathering about the rules for does not make my opinion irrelevant sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Grapefruits Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 If it were me it sure as hell WOULD work that way...especially if I'm smoking my cig and have been smoking it long before you come along...then I'm not only not going to move...I'm gonna tell you three words...and they won't be I love you. Smokers have every right that everyone else has...if you don't like the smoke...don't go around the smoke. If you don't like my fire...then don't come around...cos I'm gonna burn one down.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Hartnell's Mane Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Your uninformed opinion carries little weight and runs contrary to the accepted wisdom of the lawmakers, medical profession and the general public here in BC. Your position seems delusional. YMMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Hartnell's Mane Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 No they dont, Still doesn't justify a reason to expose non smokers to 2nd hand smoke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Hey guess what pal...I'm not in BC...so I could give a diddly crap about what some stuffed shirts, lawyers and doctors in BC have to say about smoking. As this is a debate on SMOKING...my opinion is far from irrelevant....someone get this guy the jaws of life before he suffocates himself...holy toledo.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grapefruits Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Uh yeah...as citizens...they actually do...have the same exact rights as any other citizen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpcurtly Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Uh yeah...as citizens...they actually do...have the same exact rights as any other citizen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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