Jump to content
The Official Site of the Vancouver Canucks
Canucks Community

Canucklehead73

Members
  • Posts

    865
  • Joined

  • Last visited

Posts posted by Canucklehead73

  1. Personally I do not think Green is the coach for our team going forward... Green can drive the Ferrari around the block without crashing but is afraid to step on the accelerator.

     

    I is a tough question for us spectators as we do not know the dynamics or chemistry of the team behind closed doors or even on the ice for that matter.

     

    Green seems to plays a safe style, employing dump outs and dump ins, and has very little in the way of a transition game. Leads to a lot of turn overs imho. The irony being is we are face off kings and yet give away the puck more often than not in an effort to either play safe, or green and the coaching staff has no idea how to implement strategies that involve puck moving and making plays off the rush.

     

    Then you look at other aspects, flat starts... game preparation is poor? too many men penalties... lack of awareness running the bench? Lack of time out calls when the team is getting severely outplayed... Double whammy here? A seemingly refusal to adjust game style when getting severely out played... double whammy again?

     

    Once could argue player personnel being an issue, or if the team is better or worse than last year, but ultimately the team has taken a step back and there are plenty of red flags surrounding the coaching staff to make any owner wonder...

  2. I accidentally saw the score at 5-2 and saved myself the grief...  From the early time of the goals I wonder if game preparation was off again. A common theme for this team, my personal opinion is to blame the coaching staff as it happens a lot (like the too many men penalties), but I am kinda biased as I feel Green has us playing a dumbed down dump and chase brand of hockey way too much. That play needs timing and wingers having the jump on the defense, if you try the dump in play every time odds are your timing is off and it's a turn over, and if the other team is out skating you and the coaching staff it too (insert comment) to see it's not working... Well that's my take on it, and I didn't watch the game.

  3. 17 hours ago, Provost said:

    Well Miller was a bottom 6 guy on Tampa.

     

    The actual contending teams have at least one top 6 guy playing down the roster giving them depth.  Was Kessel really a 3rd liner when he moved to Pittsburgh?

     

    Line numbering is a little arbitrary.  Is Miller really a 3rd liner if he gets fewer 5v5 minutes but is top 6 minutes amongst forwards on the team because he plays the 1st unit PP and some PK?  Hoglander could ostensibly play on a 2nd line with Horvat but get fewer minutes than alone 3rd like guys because he is only on PP2.

     

    There could absolutely be a case to be made for having a 3rd line with Pearson and Miller on it if we could find/develop another couple wingers.

     

    Same as there could be a case to have Tryamkin play with Hughes next season which is technically in the top 4... but be 5th-6th in ice time amongst the D because of special teams.

    Well I wasn't really inferring ice time as I do not really number lines either, but I believe in situational opportunities that you need to take advantage of, which dictate what players you put on the ice at a given time... I mean if you aren't going to play your best players when the chips are down you are not playing to win imho and that goes for both ends of the ice respectively. Even if you take the example you gave of possibly having 6 good wingers for 3 good lines, will they all be good at defending in a critical defensive zone faceoff situation or penalty kill situation etc etc... Like I said the best players for each situation opportunity... just my two cents on spreading out the offensive talent we have currently

  4. 14 hours ago, VegasCanuck said:

    Everyone on the team’s production faded as exhaustion set in. The Canucks were handed the worst schedule in the league, no practice time on top of no exhibition schedule. It took 6 weeks to integrate new guy’s into the lineup as they were playing multiple 3 games in 4 nights and every 2nd night at best while having a heavier than normal travel schedule to start the season.

     

    Pearson has been a 40 to 50 point guy his whole career.

     

    The fans on this board have zero understanding of what real exhaustion is, or whatit took to complete the first 6 weeks of this year’s schedule.

     

    There’s nothing wrong with the contract or term, there’s just a problem with fans over thinking this and over dramatizing a pretty minor contract.

     

    He’s 28 years old, in his prime with lots of experience. Glad he’s still with the team.

     

    As far as cap space, Hands up, which fans have spreadsheets mapping out the next 5 years of space needed, because that is what Benning does!

    Well i hope you are correct...

     

    As for your speculation on exhaustion, was Pearson exhausted in Pittsburgh as well? Because his production was about the same.

     

    And not really dramatizing anything, those are just the facts on paper as I see it, I don't pretend to know more than that.

     

    Cheers

  5. My feelings aren't mixed, Green's systems in the defensive zone are way way too passive.Cannot get to loose pucks and give up way too many prime chances.

     

    His offensive systems tend to rely too much into the "safe" play, clear the puck, dump-ins, tip passes etc. So many times we simply give the puck away when we have it to make the safe clear or dump in and cannot win it back...

     

    I would question his acumen by the level of game preparation, when we are on we can compete, so many games or period we get totally out played and out shot. Just not ready... Cannot happen in the NHL.

     

    Green's biggest flaw imho is his inability to adapt when the other team's tactics are winning and the ice is tilted, he will go down swinging instead of altering his game plan.

     

     

  6. Already a coup when you trade a first round pick for another first round pick and skip all the development years the rangers dealt with, albeit Miller was a late bloomer.

     

    I would not trade him at this moment, PPG player in his prime with good leadership and competitive traits...

     

    I would wonder how Tampa feels right now about the trade, but I would say the Cup takes the sting out of it a bit.

  7. I am on the fence to be honest, Green has the team improving, but young talent improves by their nature but that's a different conversation.

     

    I think when we are attacking Green has a good game plan, when he is defending I would say not so much... In my opinion if you give up that much ice to the opposition you just asking for it to eventually end up in the back of your net, you have to pressure to a certain extent. I just hate the passive box defense as a first choice strategy... it's a desperate strategy.

     

    I felt Green was out of his depth against Vegas... He was waiting for Vegas to stop coming or slow down, and by the time he realized they were not, the game was over.

     

    I am open to Green's return but I really hope he learned something in the playoffs... But we may need a more savvy coach to take the next step.

  8. Even if Virtanen doesn't develop into a top player he has the skills and attributes to augment a top line imho...

     

    Speed, good shot, decent size, can get pucks  out of the corners, lay some hits and he is probably tough enough to protect a finesse guy to some degree.

     

    A lot of top lines are made up of one or two stars and a player that compliments their style.

     

    I personally like his ability to retrieve pucks in the offensive zone in that regard.

     

     

    • Cheers 2
    • Haha 1
  9. On 10/29/2020 at 4:05 PM, bree2 said:

    don't you think Jake should have to prove he can stick in the top six, meaning not just playing 2 good games then floating for 4.  i like Jake and want him to improve , but he has to know he is going into his 6th year.  so fingers crossed he comes to camp ready to play like a top 6 forward

    Sure, that goes for every player, it's a what have you done for me lately business... That being said

     

    Top six point getters for the canucks forwards last year...

     

    JT Miller 72 points

    Elias Pettersson 66 points

    Bo Horvat 53 points

    Brock Boeser 45 points

    Tanner Pearson 45 points

    Tyler Toffoli 44 points

    Jake Virtanen 36 points

     

    Hardly far behind Pearson and Toffoli, whom I would say get penciled in as top 6 players?, IF you project Virtanen to improve modestly... granted no guarantee.

     

    31 teams in the league x 6 186 players are ranked top 6 by virtue of points... Virtanen is ranked 146th. Tied for the 99th ranked forward for Goals.

     

    Seems to me he has proved it pretty much, at the very least enough to get a shot at playing with better players and getting better opportunities.

     

    To be honest Ericksson etc pretty much hinder us from signing a guy like Hoffman, so the question is moot, but I still think Virtanen is a better option due to his grit.

     

     

     

    • Cheers 1
  10. Everyone seems concerned with the message being sent to future players who might sigh here... if the message is "you want to take our millions and mail it in, well we don't want your sorry sack on our roster, we have other players who still have a desire to play"

     

    I'm fine with sending that message to guys like Ericksson... 

    • Cheers 1
    • Upvote 1
  11. Pretty obvious if you ask me...

     

    Green played it too safe. Went too far into the defensive shell... you have to at least TRY to make a play and transition up the ice.

     

    I'm sure the players realized Green gave up. Which is sad if you consider it a lesson learned by the team... "They are too good, why even try?"

     

    Like a boxer just covering up and taking it for 10 rounds....

     

    Eventually you are going to get tagged once or twice and if you do not even TRY to punch back...

     

    Well even Ali couldn't pull off that kind of rope-a-dope...

    • Wat 3
    • Vintage 1
  12. 23 minutes ago, wai_lai416 said:

    lol good luck spinning that to any of the players agent when signing a contract with this team. there's reason why it doesn't happen in the NHL lol. you think you are smart signing a free agent and then trading him to get free asset instead of letting him walk? u think other gms are dumb and didn't think of it? obviously there's reason why they don't do it.

    Well you missing the point I was trying to make, I don't think it's good business to let assets walk as per the OP's question, my personal take on it is to sign you assets and wait for offers on players you are willing to part with. Most GM's are looking to do the same and will publicly say whatever to keep their assets values as high as possible, in case... you guessed it, they get a trade offer.

     

    You like to put words into my mouth to make your points... Never said trade him the next day... Never said GM's are dumb, Markstom is hardly a free agent in the context you are using... never said to sign a free agent and trade him for a free asset... that's just you making up BS to agree with your self...

     

    How about we just agree to disagree, although your kinda just agreeing with your self because I never said anything along those lines...

     

    Peace bud...

     

     

    • Vintage 1
×
×
  • Create New...