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8 hours ago, Roberts said:
heads up, i already have oct 30th claimed and SN signed you for the 28th against the flyers.
So to confirm I'm doing tomorrow vs Seattle and the 28th vs flyers
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I don't mind Podz sitting out a game. I don't think he had a poor game by any means as that 2nd goal doesn't happen without his zone entry and possession control. Much like Rathbone/Juolevi last year or Boeser in 2017, sometimes you sit a player to give them an opportunity to watch from above... there is some learning and development involved just from watching. Now I also don't believe that scratching Podkolzin gives the Canucks a better chance to win tonight, but sometimes to take a step forward you need to take a step back. I'm willing to bet that the Canucks learned a fair amount inserting Hunt and Schenn last game to fill in for an injured Hughes and an inexperienced Burroughs... hopefully it leads to positive results.
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I'll do Seattle on Oct 23 and the Oilers rematch on Oct 30 if available.
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Some observations:
- OEL is showing that he's still got it! Very impressed with his game tonight!
- Chiasson would be better suited to PP2 and 3rd line on 5v5. Bump Garland up to get a left side threat.
- Dickinson line looked fantastic tonight. Alot of folks don't like Highmore that high up the line up, but he brings alot of speed and energy. I'm ok with him holding the fort until Motte is good to go. Meanwhile, Höglander is like a wolverine out there. Great game with 2 assists and at least 3 missed penalty draws.
- Demko was great tonight. 2 goals against that he had very little chance stopping, and several high danger saves as well. Would've liked the Turris Shootout goal back, but it was a long night, plus shootouts are really a coin toss.
- Myers had terrible coverage on the first goal, but he certainly made up for it with the Keith hit. That's going to be in compilation videos for years to come... Also, I'm really digging Poolman's game. One game sample, but I'm pretty sure he's discount Chris Tanev out there, especially while playing with Hughes.
- Nice debut for Podkolzin. Think I saw him take shifts with Pettersson/Miller at points. Under 10 minutes TOI but he played well. Hoping to see those minutes slowly increase as time go on and he gains more trust.
- Speaking of TOI, not impressed with Rathbone/Burroughs playing 12 minutes or less. There were alot of PP opportunities so I imagine that would factor in, but I actually thought Burroughs had a good defensive game tonight. If after 7 or so games Rathbone's TOI doesn't increase, I say reunite him with Woo in Abbotsford and give him some major contributing minutes and slot Hunt in at 3LD instead. Can't force feed Hughes 30 minutes a game and expect him to not get tired.
- Dowling is very underatted. I was skeptical of having him in PP2 but he plays a good possession style game and plays with good speed and tenacity. Also enjoyed Lammikko in his limited time. Defensively responsible, good on the forecheck... both players have been sufficient in covering for Sutter while he's out.
A fun game with the stolen point at the end. Not a bad way to start the season. GO Canucks GO!
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Not sure if Cholowski makes it to us, but I'd certainly put in a claim. Would allow Rathbone to log major minutes in the A. Question is now that Rathbone has been named to the opening night roster, would sending him down increase his cap hit? Something about bonuses that I don't quite understand...
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Best of luck to MacEwen. He would've been useful in Abbotsford, but happy to see him still playing in the NHL.
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Some observations:
- I can do without Chiasson. Good player, but redundant once you account for the other players.
- I'm liking Dowling as 13th forward or 4C while Sutter is out. Defensive responsible and has a motor.
- if Gadj is sent down and clears waivers, I'm hoping he continues to lineup with Wouters and Lockwood. They're line has been very effective at maintaining puck possession. Also, Gadj's skating has improved tremendously. No longer chasing the play, but rather applying hard pressure.
- The big guns are taking it easy tonight, but OEL is throwing his weight around. Shades of another 23 circa 2011?
- Poolman is looking stable. Looking forward to seeing how he does against tougher competition.
- Podz is alot more dynamic than I thought. Clearly nervous, but liking his play in limited minutes so far.
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With the new $62 million signings of both Svechnikov and Couturier, does anyone else like the idea of $7.75 x 8 for Petey?
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Thanks for the love everyone! I didn't realize so many people would enjoy this little project of mine. Very, very flattered!
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I him him coming in at $2.8M x 4. Solid deal!
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Being the optimist that I am, as well as a die hard Canucks fan, I'm happy to share this new hype video I put together for your enjoyment!
I hope you enjoy the music I put together for this video. It's an original composition called "A Team Like That!"
Super amped for the season! Hope you enjoy!
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3 hours ago, wallstreetamigo said:
Would rather see Juolevi traded rather than lost on waivers though.
I think it depends on how he performs at camp. If he has a strong camp but he's still beaten out of a 6/7 spot by Rathbone/Hunt, I say trade him, even if it's a 5th round pick. If he has a poor camp, it's likely he can slip through for some necessary development time in Abbotsford, at which point he would garner more value as a flexible piece that can go up and down for a limited amount of time. It's a gamble in any event, and only time will tell.
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1 hour ago, tas said:
with green and benning, jobs are won at camp. whichever of juolevi or rathbone performs better at camp will be on the team regardless of waiver eligibility or other complicating factors, and based on track record, my money is on bone.
This, not to mention Hunt will likely in the mix for 6/7D as well. This takes me back to when we first acquired Motte and how there were members of the fan base that wanted Motte sent down because he only had one game remaining before being waiver eligible. Why? Not because he wasn't good enough to be on the 4th line, but because of asset management reasons. Quite frankly, it would've been asset mismanagement to send him down because he's solidified himself as an important member of the bottom 6.
I don't want Juolevi on the team because Rathbone isn't eligible to be waived. I want Juolevi to claim his spot in the top 6 because he's earned it. If Rathbone and Hunt both outperform Juolevi, then it is what it is... cue the same posters freaking out when Pedan was waived!
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1 minute ago, Dazzle said:
Uh, what? Source?
If Juolevi didn't accept the arbitration offer, he would've elected for salary arbitration, but his name isn't up on here. Just because he hasn't been signed doesn't mean he didn't accept it. The deadline to do this is Aug. 2.Juolevi doesn't qualify for Arbitration. Neither did Pettersson or Hughes.
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I'm going to attach my original thoughts from the other Offersheet thread below:
I'm not concerned about an offersheet. It would take a massive overpayment of 10.5M+ to make it difficult to match, which very few teams have access to or rosters to make losing the four consecutive 1st rounds worth it.
Detroit: Needs at least one more year of solid building before making the postseason, let alone making an actual impact in a very difficult division.
Ottawa: same as Detroit, plus they need to sort out their own RFA situation with Tkachuk and Batherson first.
Buffalo: As above, plus they need to sort out their Eichel situation and RFAs Dahlin and Mittelstadt.
New Jersey: With Hughes and Hishier as their top 2 Centres, they would only be interested if they are wanting a significant upgrade at wing. That said, Hughes is an RFA next year and will have to consider his contract, even though Subban is off the books. My belief is they need to see what they are this season before they commit four 1sts.
Nashville: With Johansen and Duchene eating a combined $16M per year, adding Pettersson at $10.5M could mean losing Forsberg and or Ekholm next season. Besides, they still need to figure out contracts for Fabbro, Tolvanen, and Saros.
Minnesota: Offersheeting Pettersson will mean losing one of Fiala or Kaprizov, especially since their buyout penalties are so harsh over the next few seasons.
Anaheim: They're rebuilding, plus have 4 important RFAs to sign in Steel, Jones, Lindstrom, and Comtois, not to mention at least one more Defenseman to fill out their roster, whether in free agency, trade, or from within.
NYI: With Beauvillier and Pelech due new contracts, their cap is committed, not to mention Barzal's contract to consider next season.
Seattle: This is the only team that may concern me, however they would have to be 1000% confident they will be a Stanley cup contender to give up four 1sts after just joining the league. If they crash and burn out after this offersheet, their future is stalled for almost 4 years.
Carolina: They only do this if they can confidently sign Svechnikov to a team friendly deal and move out one of Neidereiter or Trocheck to facilitate the cap space. Not likely to happen.
NYR: If they figure out their Goalie situation, they may make a play, though it will compromise their ability to keep all of Strome, Kaako, Kravtsov, and Fox. This is a big gamble.
Calgary: As much as it could hurt to see him go there, Calgary still needs to figure out their contracts for Zadorov, Duke, and Kylington. There is also uncertainty facing the futures of Monahan and Gaudreau. Is it worth giving up four 1sts if they lose those two the following year?
Columbus: Petterson flanked by Laine could be scary, however it will risk their ability to keep Laine (should they wish to), Roslovic, and will lead to losing one of either Merzlikins or Korpisalo.
Arizona: They are not going to give up their picks to facilitate this, after spending the past month collecting picks to rebuild their club fixing the last few years of mediocrity.
St. Louis: With the RFAs they still need to sign they won't have the cap space to even consider an offersheet.
The remaining teams don't have the space, flexibility, or picks to consider an offersheet. I'm confident we'll get Pettersson signed to a favorable deal. All we have to do is wait, which is always the hard part.
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2 minutes ago, IRR said:
I think he will be solid, especially with Shaw here now.....and honestly, that's all he needs to do i think. Just quietly go about playing solid defense and if there's more there, great!
I agree. Contrary to popular belief, $2.5M is a fair price for a solid, reliable 3rd pair who can also play dependable PK minutes. If he surpasses that and provides top 4 quality minutes, that's gravy!
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I'm not concerned about an offersheet. It would take a massive overpayment of 10.5M+ to make it difficult to match, which very few teams have access to or rosters to make losing the four consecutive 1st rounds worth it.
Detroit: Needs at least one more year of solid building before making the postseason, let alone making an actual impact in a very difficult division.
Ottawa: same as Detroit, plus they need to sort out their own RFA situation with Tkachuk and Batherson first.
Buffalo: As above, plus they need to sort out their Eichel situation and RFAs Dahlin and Mittelstadt.
New Jersey: With Hughes and Hishier as their top 2 Centres, they would only be interested if they are wanting a significant upgrade at wing. That said, Hughes is an RFA next year and will have to consider his contract, even though Subban is off the books. My belief is they need to see what they are this season before they commit four 1sts.
Nashville: With Johansen and Duchene eating a combined $16M per year, adding Pettersson at $10.5M could mean losing Forsberg and or Ekholm next season. Besides, they still need to figure out contracts for Fabbro, Tolvanen, and Saros.
Minnesota: Offersheeting Pettersson will mean losing one of Fiala or Kaprizov, especially since their buyout penalties are so harsh over the next few seasons.
Anaheim: They're rebuilding, plus have 4 important RFAs to sign in Steel, Jones, Lindstrom, and Comtois, not to mention at least one more Defenseman to fill out their roster, whether in free agency, trade, or from within.
NYI: With Beauvillier and Pelech due new contracts, their cap is committed, not to mention Barzal's contract to consider next season.
Seattle: This is the only team that may concern me, however they would have to be 1000% confident they will be a Stanley cup contender to give up four 1sts after just joining the league. If they crash and burn out after this offersheet, their future is stalled for almost 4 years.
Carolina: They only do this if they can confidently sign Svechnikov to a team friendly deal and move out one of Neidereiter or Trocheck to facilitate the cap space. Not likely to happen.
NYR: If they figure out their Goalie situation, they may make a play, though it will compromise their ability to keep all of Strome, Kaako, Kravtsov, and Fox. This is a big gamble.
Calgary: As much as it could hurt to see him go there, Calgary still needs to figure out their contracts for Zadorov, Duke, and Kylington. There is also uncertainty facing the futures of Monahan and Gaudreau. Is it worth giving up four 1sts if they lose those two the following year?
Columbus: Petterson flanked by Laine could be scary, however it will risk their ability to keep Laine (should they wish to), Roslovic, and will lead to losing one of either Merzlikins or Korpisalo.
Arizona: They are not going to give up their picks to facilitate this, after spending the past month collecting picks to rebuild their club fixing the last few years of mediocrity.
St. Louis: With the RFAs they still need to sign they won't have the cap space to even consider an offersheet.
The remaining teams don't have the space, flexibility, or picks to consider an offersheet. I'm confident we'll get Pettersson signed to a favorable deal. All we have to do is wait, which is always the hard part.
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18 minutes ago, Bure_Pavel said:
Canucks have to be careful who they are giving term too, or we will end up in a similiar position as before. Demko and Garland are the only members of the core moving forward locked in long term. Maybe OEL too depending on longevity.
Right now the only players signed for the 2023-24 season are
Myers 6 mil will be over 30 years old
OEL 7.26 mil will be over 30 years old
Pearson 3.25 mil will be over 30 years old
Garland 4.95 mil
Poolman 2.5 mil will be over 30 years old
Demko 5 mil
The next couple of years will be very interesting to see. Depending on how the RFAs are signed, it's quite likely that we see a few cap casualties along the way. We will definitely be losing Motte next year if he plays as well as I think he can over a healthy season, with Miller the following year and Pearson the year after. With that said, I feel as if I'm one of a few people who actually likes the Poolman contract, so time will tell.
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Solid deal for the Stars. $1.5M is a good price for a 3rd pair defensive D, especially over 3 years.
Even though Poolman's contract is richer, I still like it better for the following reasons:
- Poolman is one year removed from a 25 point pace season. There's potential for him to replicate or surpass his offensive totals, depending on his deployment. Hakanpaa's offensive potential is minimal, even in the European leagues.
- Hakanpaa would strictly be a 3rd pair defenseman with PK proficiency. The way Greener and Baumer deploy their lines, they go for utility more so then actual defined roles. Poolman has displayed more versatility playing match-up with Morrisey (to mixed results) as well as 3rd pair duties with Stanley (who helped shut down Edmonton's offense in the POs)
- The extra year of Poolman's contract bypasses Myers' contract. He'll essentially take his role at that point at less than half the cost, provided Myers isn't moved or bought out before than. Essentially, he is Myers insurance.
With all that said, this is a solid move for the stars who needed a dependable defenseman at a reasonable contract deal, especially with Heiskenen's new deal and Klingberg's deal about to expire.
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I don't know exactly how LTIR works, but if we're able to get maximum relief of Ferland's $3.5M contract, I would do the following:
Pettersson: $8.5M x 8 years
Hughes: $7M x 6 years
Dickinson: $2.9 x 4 years
Juolevi: 850k x 1 year
With Pettersson, I used Point's new 8 year extension and Barzal's 7Mx3 bridge as the comparables. In Point's case, the entire span of the contract takes place over his UFA years, but with Florida's state tax laws, is cheaper overall then signing in Canada, not to mention he's playing on a multiple cup winning team. In Petersson's case, I used $6M as the base for finishing his RFA years, plus added additional annual monies to purchase UFA years. I'm most likely off by at least a million and a year or two... so more realistically looking at $8.5Mx6 or at least $9.5M x 8... will have to come back back this...
In Hughe's case, I used Chabot's 8.25Mx8, Heiskenen's 8.45Mx8, and Makar's $9Mx6 as comparables. I went 6 years to go along with the remaining of OEL's contract. That way, when his $7.26M contract expires, you have ample cap to re-sign or replace Hughes. I went with $7M on the notion that his defensive game isn't at the same level as Makar, even though their offensive level is comparable. It buys one of his UFA years so it will also be a bit cheaper. At the end of the day, it is still a gamble. Look for this deal to likely be a bridge to allow Hughes to grow his game and maintain short term cap flexibility.
Dickinson is a unique position. His comparables, in my opinion, would be Faksa's $3.25M x 5 and Cizika's last contract of $3.35M x 5. Cizika signed his contract at 25, whereas Faksa signed at 30. Both players, however, have demonstrated the ability to produce at a fringe 2nd line level. Dickinson has not, though is potentially on the verge. I went $2.9M in order to maximize his value over a period of 4 years without passing the $3M mark. If he shows 2nd line offensive potential, this would be great value. If not, his cap hit doesn't hurt the overall cap structure.
Juolevi gets a slight raise at 850k, and will act as 1 year show me deal. 3LD should be his to lose with both Rathbone and Hunt competing for that spot. His progress will determine whether he stays on as a top 6 D, or if management will move on from him.
...discuss!
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Oh man... Abbotsford is going to be a highscoring team. Love Petan as 1C for the baby Canucks!
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Having seen Dowling play from time to time, I'm very impressed with his play. I wouldn't call him a regular, but I would be comfortable with him at 4C when Sutter inevitably gets injured again... maybe even push Highmore out as 13.
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Now that I think about it, I wouldn't be surprised if Bailey pushes MacEwen out of the 4RW slot on opening night.
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Stoked to have Schenn back! Ideally he's our 8th D, but I can see him switching him in from time to time against the bigger teams like Vegas.
On a general note, the defensive depth that JB has signed is amazing. There are a few players like Burroughs and Hunt who can certainly make the opening night roster interesting. Also, injuries should, theoretically, no longer affect us as much as in years past. I can see Hunt filling in the blanks on the PP if Hughes goes down, Schenn or Burroughs slotting in for Poolman if he underwhelms...
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Np! Thanks for the update. I'll get Seattle up this evening!