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1st period Observations:
- Damn I missed Petey's one-timer.
- Good to see Boeser playing with confidence again.
- Liking that 3rd line of Roussel, Gaudette, Ferland. Fast and agitating.
- Not sold with Sutter yet... might come in handy during PK but he's looking a little slow. 4th line needs some speed. Too bad Virtanen's been press boxed.
- Connor hellebuyck is keeping the Jets in this one.
GCG!
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For those who need a little bit more hockey in their day... enjoy!
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Thanks @debluvscanucks for the GDT.
Hoping to bring the road trip back to .500. Demko is playing pretty good, but he's clearly nervous about holding the fort. He should've had the Brown goal on Thursday and Matthew's goal last night, but he made some pretty stellar saves throughout this trip.
Hoping for a line shake up. Virt with EP and Miller, Tofu with Boho and Pearson, and Big Mac in for either Sutter or Eriksson.
GCG!
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1 hour ago, Provost said:
Any plan that counts on us easily shedding $11 million in cap to other teams and getting a return on doing that isn't very realistic in my opinion.
We had deals go south at the deadline because no one was willing to take on Baertschi's fairly small contract. No teams have much cap space for next season with an expected fairly flat cap. It might be possible to shed cap, but don't expect teams to be lining up to take on players that we think of as expendable.
Even in that plan, we need to account for $1.7 million in pushed ELC's from this year, so that has to be added and another player taken away. We also need buffer for short term injury call ups and another buffer for an expected $3-4 million in ELC bonuses for next year that we can't afford to push into 2021-22. Your plan also needs to get rid of Eriksson on top of Sutter, Roussel, Baertschi, and Benn.
It isn't unsolvable... but it is going to hurt.1 hour ago, Alflives said:100% agree. It’s a paradoxical issue, that has no good solution. It’s going to cost us our future to dump the contracts that are holding back our future. So I’ve decided to cheer for the now.
All fair points.
The Canucks are allowed to go over the cap on bonuses, provided we're prepared to have to have it affect our cap come 2021-2022. Definitely didn't take a long-term approach to this, just experimented with one of the many hypotheticals.
Part of the reason why trading Baertschi was a pain this season was the extra year of term. There's alot less risk next season. Same applies for Sutter. The returns would be minimal, but I doubt we're giving up a first to clear Sutter's 1 year. I'm sure Colorado or Winnipeg, with their ample cap space, would've handed over a 2021 5th or 6th to shore up their centre depth (With Little and Kadri out of the lineup) had he only one year on his deal. There will be takers available.
At the end of the day, Canucks will need to free up about $10 Million in order to resign/replace players on the current roster. Whatever combination that may be is what will remain to be seen, whether it's player trades (Sutter, Roussel, Baertschi, etc), Contract burying (Baertschi, Eriksson), Retirement (Eriksson), LTIR (Ferland), wicked discounts (Stecher, Virtanen), or walk-outs (Stecher, Toffoli, Tanev, Markstrom, etc).
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Honestly, I don't think next season is the big issue when it comes to the cap crunch. In my opinion, here are the 4 objectives that Management needs to sort out:
- Maintain an Internal Cap structure until 2021-2022 season
- Determine Ferland's state of health
- Deal with excess dead cap
- Supplementing the roster with ELC/Sub Million Dollar Contracts.
In this particular scenario, my objective as an arm-chair GM is to maintain as much of the roster as it sits now within the current salary cap (Don't depend on a salary cap increase). Here goes:
- No one on our team has a contract signed over $6,000,000. For the Canucks to maintain flexibility, no contract can be signed over that amount for next season. That means no massive overpayments for Markstrom, Tanev, or Toffoli (He is resigned in my scenario), no massive UFA deal (No Hall), and bridges for low cost RFAs (Motte, MacEwan, and Gaudette).
Let's assume the top 6 ends up being Miller - Pettersson - Boeser & Pearson - Horvat - Toffoli. Also, let's assume that Beagle centres Motte & MacEwan (Both qualified, $1,000,000 and $875,000, respectively). It's a safe bet that Gaudette will be 3C, with Virtanen on his flank. That leaves five names that are still under contract: Roussel, Ferland, Sutter, Baerstchi, and Eriksson.
I'm going on the notion that no one will touch Eriksson or Ferland. They will remain with the franchise in some capacity in my scenario.
Contrary to popular belief, both Sutter and Roussel have some value to their contracts, albeit limited. I foresee Sutter & Roussel traded for a combination of low draft picks and C prospects. With one year left on his deal, Sutter can easily be traded on draft day, or during the July 1st frenzy. Roussel's two years makes it a bit tougher, but he brings intangibles that other teams may covet, particularly for a long playoff run (assuming his presence on the Canucks roster is such during our own playoff run). Baerstchi will likely be buried again though he could potentially outplay both Ferland and Eriksson for a spot in the line-up. The ball is in his court, but in my scenario, I will be trading him for a low pick or B/C Prospect at 50% rentention. With one year left on his deal, Baertschi is a lot more valuable, especially at a cap hit of approximately $1.7M.
Ferland's health is really the big question. He can potentially recover and fit nicely as 3LW. Alternatively, he may be placed on LTIR for the remainder of his contract, providing additional flexibility. To make things interesting, let's assume he's healthy and good to go as 3LW!
This leaves Eriksson. If waived, a cap hit of $4.925 Million remains on the books. There's discussion that he may retire once he receives his July 15th bonus, but again, can't rely on that to happen. He'll stay on as 13th forward for purposes of simplicity.
On the backend is where we're going to see most of our ELCs fill in the holes. Benn will no doubt be traded as we don't need a $2 Million 7th D, and he could probably fetch a late 2nd on draft day, though likely a 3rd. In my scenario, I've called up Juolevi and Rafferty.
With all that said, here's what I ended up with:
Miller ($5.25M) -- Pettersson ($925K) -- Boeser ($5.875M)
Pearson ($3.75M) -- Horvat ($5.5M) -- Toffoli ($5.5M)
Ferland ($3.5M) -- Gaudette ($1.5M) -- Virtanen ($3.5M)
Motte ($1M) -- Beagle ($3M) -- MacEwan ($875K)
Eriksson ($6M)
Edler ($6M) -- Stecher ($3M)
Hughes ($917K) -- Tanev ($5M)
Juolevi ($863K) -- Myers ($6M)
Rafferty ($700K)
Markstrom ($6M)
Demko ($1.05M)
Baerstchi Retained Salary ($1.683M)
Spooner Buyout ($1.033M)
Luongo Recapture ($3.033M)
Total: $81.454
This is an ideal scenario, but there are so many different ways it can go. Baertschi, could be buried, he could fail to report, he can be suspended, and have his contract terminated. Eriksson can retire on July 16, 2020. Ferland can go on permanent LTIR. Virtanen could be traded in a package. One or more of Markstrom, Tanev, Stecher, or Toffoli could walk. The purpose of this exercise was to see if the current roster (for the most part) be maintained in a somewhat realistic fashion. Would love to hear your thoughts on the matter!
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"Lois, a boat's a boat, but a mystery box can be anything. It can even be a boat. You know how much we've wanted one of those things?..." -- Peter Griffin, Family Guy
The only way a Boeser trade makes sense is if there is a suitable replacement (either in the pipeline or in the return) who can score at an average minimum of 0.8 Points per game and can average at least 62 games played in a season.
From the perspective of what's in the pipeline and existing roster, Podkolzin won't be joining the ranks until the 2021-2022 season. Hoglander won't bring that kind of production next season, provided he even signs his ELC within the upcoming international window. At the rate Virtanen is playing, it's possible he can grow into it, but he'll be lucky to end this season at 0.5 Points per game. Do we really expect Kole Lind to shoulder that responsibility next season? Jasek?
Replacing that production in Free Agency would cost more than retaining Brock Boeser at his current cap hit. Does Toffoli at $5.5 - $6 Million supplant Boeser? Does Taylor Hall at $9 Million make it worth losing Boeser at a lower cap hit? If the return in a trade includes a mid to low 1st round pick, it is more than likely that within 3 years that selected prospect may develop into a 60-70 point player... Like Brock Boeser. Hoffman would make the most sense, but he's only reached 70 points once in his career and may only reach 65 points this season if all goes well. He will command between $6-$7 Million per year in free agency. Resigning Toffoli could potentially work, but premature based on the single game he's played for us so far. I'd like to see how he progresses for the rest of the season before putting pen to paper. Even so, I imagine he'd cost at least $5 Million per.
Let's say, hypothetically, Brock gets traded for one of the lottery picks in this year's draft. With the exception of Lafreniere, when do those picks reach Brock's production? Does byfield reach 40points in his rookie year and reach 60 points by 2022? How about Raymond? Holtz? Perfetti?
I'm imagining what a trade to Minnesota would look like. It's possible they might bite on a one for one for Dumba, but feel as if we'd need to add, which probably causes a domino effect of issues. Maybe a trade around Fiala (Add Boldy and a pick, maybe?) but Fiala would be due for a raise in the same year as both Pettersson and Hughes.
Brain hurts. Will provide more analysis at a later time.
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Vancouver Canucks (30-19-5) @
Minnesota Wild (24-22-6)
5:00 PM PST at Xcel Energy Centre
TV: SNP
RADIO: SN650
Last Time VS The Wild
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtQGOCV_9AI
A Friendly Reminder...
(That Brock Boeser scored his first goal in his Canucks Debut in Minnesota...)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR2UZUOcM9o
The Good Guys
(Subject to Change)
LW C RW Forwards
TANNER PEARSONRating: 74.3#36 LW
BO HORVATRating: 76.1#32 C
LOUI ERIKSSONRating: 70.3#105 RW
FL1 RatingRating: 73.54#27 FL1
J.T. MILLERRating: 77.8#16 LW
ELIAS PETTERSSONRating: 78.6#12 C
BROCK BOESERRating: 75.0#25 RW
FL2 RatingRating: 77.12#3 FL2
ANTOINE ROUSSELRating: 70.9#103 LW
ADAM GAUDETTERating: 70.7#139 C
JAKE VIRTANENRating: 73.7#41 RW
FL3 RatingRating: 71.77#18 FL3
TIM SCHALLERRating: 68.3#135 LW
JAY BEAGLERating: 67.8#186 C
BRANDON SUTTERRating: 71.1#123 RW
FL4 RatingRating: 69.09#30 FL4DEFENSIVE PAIRINGS Defense
ALEXANDER EDLERRating: 74.5#24 LD
TROY STECHERRating: 71.3#83 RD
DL1 RatingRating: 72.88#25 DL1
QUINN HUGHESRating: 76.6#8 LD
CHRIS TANEVRating: 72.4#57 RD
DL2 RatingRating: 74.54#5 DL2
OSCAR FANTENBERGRating: 71.2#94 LD
TYLER MYERSRating: 73.9#30 RD
DL3 RatingRating: 72.56#13 DL3GOALIES
JACOB MARKSTROMRating: 71.8#8 G1
THATCHER DEMKORating: 67.4#40 G2
Team Analysis
Top 5 Scorers:
- Elias Pettersson: 23G-32A-55P in 54GP
- JT Miller: 20G-33A-53P in 54GP
- Brock Boeser: 16G-29A-45P in 54 GP
- Bo Horvat: 17G-27A-44P in 54 GP
- Tanner Pearson: 15G-24A-39P in 54GP
Who’s Hot:
- JT Miller: Had a 6 game point streak snapped in Boston, where he recorded 4G and 5A during the span.
- Quinn Hughes: Before the Boston shutout, Hughes was scoring at a point per game pace with 4G and 5A over a period of 9 games.
- Jacob Markstrom: Despite getting scored on four times against Boston, still managed 38 saves. His average SV% in his past 4 games is .929
Who’s Not:
- Alex Edler: Currently on a 6 game pointless streak. His last Goal came in Colorado back on November 16, 2019.
- Antoine Roussel: After a strong return, Roussel's point production took a dive with only 1 assist in his past 6 games, and 2 points (1G, 1A) in the month of January.
Who to Watch for:
- Brock: Watch for Brock to end his 9 game goaless streak...
- The Insurance Line: Beware the empty net...
Sick Bay:
- Micheal Ferland: UBI, may join Utica for conditioning stint
- Josh Leivo: Fractured kneecap, 2 to 3 months
- Tyler Motte: UBI, 4-6 Weeks
- Tyler Graovac: LBI, no timetable
The Other Guys
(Subject to Change)
LW C RW Forwards
ZACH PARISERating: 75.2#28 LW
ERIC STAALRating: 75.9#34 C
MATS ZUCCARELLORating: 74.0#37 RW
FL1 RatingRating: 75.06#20 FL1
JASON ZUCKERRating: 74.5#33 LW
LUKE KUNINRating: 72.3#91 C
KEVIN FIALARating: 72.2#80 RW
FL2 RatingRating: 72.99#23 FL2
JORDAN GREENWAYRating: 71.8#88 LW
JOEL ERIKSSON EKRating: 71.4#116 C
MARCUS FOLIGNORating: 72.0#83 RW
FL3 RatingRating: 71.72#19 FL3
RYAN DONATORating: 72.9#75 LW
MIKKO KOIVURating: 71.0#128 C
RYAN HARTMANRating: 71.7#74 RW
FL4 RatingRating: 71.89#3 FL4DEFENSIVE PAIRINGS Defense
RYAN SUTERRating: 75.9#9 LD
JARED SPURGEONRating: 76.0#12 RD
DL1 RatingRating: 75.94#5 DL1
JONAS BRODINRating: 73.0#52 LD
MATHEW DUMBARating: 74.3#24 RD
DL2 RatingRating: 73.68#13 DL2
CARSON SOUCYRating: 71.9#81 LD
BRAD HUNTRating: 72.3#65 RD
DL3 RatingRating: 72.09#17 DL3GOALIES
ALEX STALOCKRating: 62.5#66 G1
DEVAN DUBNYKRating: 64.7#58 G2
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17 hours ago, xereau said:
Could have sworn I checked. Do you want the Bruins?
NM will do it, it's a day out now.
If Minny is open on the 6th, I'll take it.
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I'll do NYI on Saturday Feb 1!
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9 hours ago, JamesB said:
Comments on tonight.
1. The Canucks were outplayed through two periods. Like some people said in the GDT, it looked like "one of the those games", but the team came back strong in the 3rd and full credit for the win.
2. The shot totals and the Corsi totals favour San Jose by a big margin, but the game was closer than that. San Jose was taking a lot of low probability shots (and shot attempts), especially once they fell behind. In terms of high danger chances, Natural Stat Trick has the Sharks 10 to 9 for the Canucks -- very close. The Canucks had their chances, including three partial breakaways by Pettersson and a couple of posts. Once again, this game could have gone either way, but Marky had a solid game and kept the team close through two periods and he was the probably the key difference.
3. Hughes was named the first star. He looks great out there, and Green had him taking his full share of minutes against the other team's top players. (The three left D's -- Hughes, Edler and Fantenberg -- each had just over 5 minutes of even strength time against Kane.) After the last game I said that Hughes was maybe taking too many shots from the point. Glad he did not listen to me, as his opening goal on a shot from the point was an excellent play that helped keep the Canucks in the game. Hughes almost never gets beaten on a play that involves skating. He is fast and he always take the right angle. However, he can get trapped in his own end and it is tough for him to win puck battles given his (lack of) size and strength. But another excellent game by Hughes.
4. Once again, Fantenberg had a good game. He actually led the D in even strength Corsi and he shared the LD PK time with Edler. I thought he played very well.
5. Horvat is probably not getting enough credit in the winning streak. He was 15 and 4 in the faceoff circle and, as always, had the toughest minutes although, like the last game, the tough minutes were divided up more evenly that earlier in the streak.
6. I have not often commented on Beagle, partly because he is usually not particularly bad or particularly good. He has "met expectations" but that is because expectations for a 4th line center are not usually very high. But I have to give him credit tonight. He is fearless in blocking shots and does a good job on the PK. After getting hurt tonight on a shot block he came back and make a great play on the Sutter goal. So credit to Beagle and it is good to Beagle and Sutter finally get on the scoresheet.
7. Great GWG by Virtanen. He continues his streak and he continues to look like he belongs in the top 6. Green moved him around tonight, putting him with the Horvat line and the EP line.
8. Green changed up the lines a bit, partly because of the Motte injury and partly to get things going after a sub-par showing in the first two periods. After Motte was hurt, Eriksson played with Sutter and Beagle in a lot of tough defensive situations. I was sorry to see Motte hurt and that takes away some energy and physical play. But the defensive capability of the Beagle line is actually better with Eriksson on it and those guys had a strong 3rd period (including getting a goal).
9. It was also good for Boeser to get some time with Pettersson and Miller in place of Virtanen, as Virtanen took Eriksson's place on the Horvat line. And it was good to see Boeser on the scoresheet again. However, his game still needs to improve. The team needs more from Roussel and Gaudette. Gaudette did get an assist on Virtanen's PP goal, but I think that playing with Roussel and Gaudette has made it hard for Boeser. None of those guys really drives play.
10. Cannot believe a penalty was not called on Karlsson on the play where Motte was injured. Even though I am sure there was no intent to injure, that is a dangerous play -- guiding the opponent's head into the boards. But it would not have made sense for Horvat or anyone else to go full goon (or even partial goon) on Karlsson. Better to come back and win the game. And save the emotion. The Canucks have a long road trip ahead.
12. Overall, another big win and, with losses to Edmonton, Arizona, and Dallas, the Canucks are solidifying their spot in the standings.
I very much agree. I would've felt a bit better about the hit of a 2 minute boarding minor was called. Personally wouldn't cry for a suspension, but there always seems to be a lack of consistency from a refereeing standpoint. Good to see the Canucks responding with a win!
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I believe the team is in good shape as is, but I also agree that the 3rd pairing could use an upgrade.
Benn
One of Jasek, Brisebois, Gadjovich, or Palmu
A late pick (5th or 6th round)
tHOUGHTS?
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3 hat tricks in a 4 game span is an awesome feat, even in the AHL. Imo, he's certainly earned a call-up. Awkward to fit him in due to the team's current strong play, but I think it's a matter of when we'll see him dressed for a game or two, not if.
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Vancouver Canucks (23-15-4) @
Tampa Bay Lightning (24-13-4)
4:00 PM PST at Amalie Arena
TV: SNP
RADIO: SN650
Last Time VS The Lightning
A Friendly Reminder...
(That the Bolts traded JT Miller to the Canucks...)
In Case You Missed It...
(PAD STACK!!!...)
The Good Guys
(Subject to Change)
LW C RW Forwards
J.T. MILLERRating: 76.8#21 LW
ELIAS PETTERSSONRating: 79.7#12 C
BROCK BOESERRating: 75.9#20 RW
FL1 RatingRating: 77.48#7 FL1
TANNER PEARSONRating: 75.0#27 LW
BO HORVATRating: 76.4#25 C
LOUI ERIKSSONRating: 70.5#106 RW
FL2 RatingRating: 73.96#16 FL2
ANTOINE ROUSSELRating: 71.3#106 LW
ADAM GAUDETTERating: 70.8#131 C
JAKE VIRTANENRating: 73.1#54 RW
FL3 RatingRating: 71.75#17 FL3
TIM SCHALLERRating: 68.2#141 LW
JAY BEAGLERating: 67.6#179 C
TYLER MOTTERating: 69.2#131 RW
FL4 RatingRating: 68.34#31 FL4DEFENSIVE PAIRINGS Defense
ALEXANDER EDLERRating: 76.7#7 LD
TROY STECHERRating: 71.5#86 RD
DL1 RatingRating: 74.13#21 DL1
QUINN HUGHESRating: 75.4#14 LD
CHRIS TANEVRating: 71.8#74 RD
DL2 RatingRating: 73.61#17 DL2
OSCAR FANTENBERGRating: 70.7#108 LD
TYLER MYERSRating: 73.9#30 RD
DL3 RatingRating: 72.31#16 DL3GOALIES
JACOB MARKSTROMRating: 70.6#15 G1
THATCHER DEMKORating: 67.2#39 G2
Team Analysis
Top 5 Scorers:
- Elias Pettersson: 19G-25A-44P in 42GP
- JT Miller: 15G-25A-40P in 42GP
- Brock Boeser: 13G-26A-39P in 42 GP
- Bo Horvat: 12G-23A-35P in 42 GP
- Tanner Pearson: 12G-18A-30P in 42GP
Who’s Hot:
- Bo Horvat: On a three game point streak, accumulating 7 points (2G, 5A) in that span
- Quinn Hughes: Three game point streak (1G, 2A), with 4 points in his last five games played.
- Jacob Markstrom: During the Canucks 7 game win streak, Markstrom went 6-0 with a .939 SV%, and a 2.5 GAA.
Who’s Not:
- The 4th Line: Despite arguably strong defensive play, has only contributed two goals (Both by Tyler Motte) since October 30, 2019.
- Troy Stecher: His last scored points were on December 7th, 2019, a 2 assist night against Buffalo.
Who to Watch for:
- Alex Edler: Watch for a strong offensive outing from him as he recently had a 4 game point streak snapped, with 5 assists in 4 games between December 23, 2019 and January 2nd, 2020.
- The Celly Line: Just because...
Sick Bay:
- Micheal Ferland: UBI, may join roadtrip at a later date
- Josh Leivo: Fractured kneecap, 2 to 3 months
- Brandon Sutter: UBI, may join roadtrip at a later date
- Tyler Graovac: LBI, no timetable
The Other Guys
(Subject to Change)
LW C RW Forwards
STEVEN STAMKOSRating: 79.9#7 LW
BRAYDEN POINTRating: 79.9#10 C
NIKITA KUCHEROVRating: 82.1#2 RW
FL1 RatingRating: 80.61#2 FL1
ONDREJ PALATRating: 74.2#38 LW
ANTHONY CIRELLIRating: 75.1#41 C
TYLER JOHNSONRating: 74.2#54 RW
FL2 RatingRating: 74.51#11 FL2
PATRICK MAROONRating: 73.1#66 LW
CEDRIC PAQUETTERating: 70.8#132 C
ALEX KILLORNRating: 76.6#22 RW
FL3 RatingRating: 73.49#6 FL3
CARTER VERHAEGHERating: 72.2#85 LW
MITCHELL STEPHENSRating: 72.9#80 C
YANNI GOURDERating: 72.4#64 RW
FL4 RatingRating: 72.51#2 FL4DEFENSIVE PAIRINGS Defense
VICTOR HEDMANRating: 79.8#2 LD
JAN RUTTARating: 72.2#65 RD
DL1 RatingRating: 76.00#6 DL1
BRAYDON COBURNRating: 71.4#96 LD
ERIK CERNAKRating: 73.0#48 RD
DL2 RatingRating: 72.23#27 DL2
KEVIN SHATTENKIRKRating: 74.4#27 LD
MIKHAIL SERGACHEVRating: 74.6#22 RD
DL3 RatingRating: 74.47#3 DL3GOALIES
ANDREI VASILEVSKIYRating: 71.0#12 G1
CURTIS MCELHINNEYRating: 71.5#10 G2
On the Prospect Front...
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I'll do Tampa on Jan 7!
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Thanks for catching that @babych. Fixed!
Also, if anyone has any gifs or clips or Gaudreau/Tkachuk getting nailed by a Canuck player, I won't be mad lol.
GCG!
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Vancouver Canucks (20-15-4) @
Calgary Flames (20-15-5)
6:30 PM PST at Scotiabank Saddledome
TV: SN, SN360, SN1
RADIO: SN650
Last Time VS The Flames
A Friendly Reminder...
(That the Canuicks and Flames have had quite a decade...)
In Case You Missed It...
(Lucic finally found the back of the net in November...)
The Good Guys
(Subject to Change)
LW C RW Forwards
J.T. MILLERRating: 75.9#31 LW
ELIAS PETTERSSONRating: 79.5#13 C
BROCK BOESERRating: 76.1#19 RW
FL1 RatingRating: 77.17#10 FL1
TANNER PEARSONRating: 72.9#64 LW
BO HORVATRating: 74.5#50 C
LOUI ERIKSSONRating: 70.6#105 RW
FL2 RatingRating: 72.66#24 FL2
ANTOINE ROUSSELRating: 71.7#88 LW
ADAM GAUDETTERating: 70.4#151 C
JAKE VIRTANENRating: 72.0#73 RW
FL3 RatingRating: 71.36#21 FL3
TIM SCHALLERRating: 68.8#133 LW
JAY BEAGLERating: 68.4#186 C
TYLER MOTTERating: 69.6#123 RW
FL4 RatingRating: 68.93#31 FL4DEFENSIVE PAIRINGS Defense
QUINN HUGHESRating: 74.8#26 LD
CHRIS TANEVRating: 72.5#58 RD
DL1 RatingRating: 73.68#19 DL1
ALEXANDER EDLERRating: 75.9#13 LD
TROY STECHERRating: 71.5#90 RD
DL2 RatingRating: 73.70#12 DL2
OSCAR FANTENBERGRating: 71.8#82 LD
TYLER MYERSRating: 73.6#39 RD
DL3 RatingRating: 72.66#14 DL3GOALIES
JACOB MARKSTROMRating: 69.8#19 G1
THATCHER DEMKORating: 68.1#30 G2
Team Analysis
Top 5 Scorers:
- Elias Pettersson: 18G-23A-41P in 39GP
- Brock Boeser: 13G-24A-37P in 39 GP
- JT Miller: 14G-22A-36P in 39GP
- Bo Horvat: 10G-18A-28P in 39 GP
- Quinn Hughes: 3G-24A-27P in 38GP
Who’s Hot:
- The Lotto Line: In their last 4 games, have combined for 15 points (Miller: 1G, 4A / Pettersson: 4G, 2A / Boeser 1G, 4 A).
- Jake Virtanen: Continuing his consistent play with 4 points in his last 4 games (2G, 2A) and 12 points in 14 games (5G, 7A)
Who’s Not:
- Adam Gaudette: Despite some strong play, has not recorded a point in his last 3 games.
- Tim Schaller: Has not recorded a point in 26 games, with his last goal scored on October 28th against Florida.
Who to Watch for:
- Tyler Motte: After scoring in back to back games, watch for him to maintain his scoring streak.
- Alex Edler: Watch for him to continue his offensive contributions after scoring assists in back to back games since returning from injury.
Sick Bay:
- Micheal Ferland: UBI, skated Thursday, no timetable
- Josh Leivo: Fractured kneecap, 2 to 3 months
- Brandon Sutter: UBI, Possibly after the holidays
- Tyler Graovac: LBI, no timetable
The Other Guys
(Subject to Change)
LW C RW Forwards
JOHNNY GAUDREAURating: 75.5#25 LW
SEAN MONAHANRating: 75.1#40 C
MIKAEL BACKLUNDRating: 72.7#89 RW
FL1 RatingRating: 74.44#25 FL1
MATTHEW TKACHUKRating: 77.9#11 LW
ELIAS LINDHOLMRating: 75.5#35 C
ANDREW MANGIAPANERating: 71.4#87 RW
FL2 RatingRating: 74.92#11 FL2
MILAN LUCICRating: 69.8#121 LW
DEREK RYANRating: 72.1#102 C
DILLON DUBERating: 71.0#96 RW
FL3 RatingRating: 70.98#25 FL3
SAM BENNETTRating: 71.4#93 LW
MARK JANKOWSKIRating: 70.0#162 C
MICHAEL FROLIKRating: 73.0#53 RW
FL4 RatingRating: 71.45#10 FL4DEFENSIVE PAIRINGS Defense
MARK GIORDANORating: 77.3#6 LD
T.J. BRODIERating: 74.3#27 RD
DL1 RatingRating: 75.76#8 DL1
NOAH HANIFINRating: 73.3#54 LD
TRAVIS HAMONICRating: 73.9#32 RD
DL2 RatingRating: 73.61#13 DL2
OLIVER KYLINGTONRating: 70.8#105 LD
RASMUS ANDERSSONRating: 72.8#51 RD
DL3 RatingRating: 71.82#20 DL3GOALIES
DAVID RITTICHRating: 66.9#41 G1
CAM TALBOTRating: 63.7#60 G2
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8 minutes ago, Qwags said:
Reminder that Detroit picked Zadina over Hughes.
Should've signed up for a Detroit GDT. Would've sat nicely in my "friendly reminder" section.
Also, Petey's a beast!
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Vancouver Canucks (18-15-4) Vs
Edmonton Oilers (20-15-4)
7:00 PM PST at Rogers Arena
TV: SNP
RADIO: SN650
Last Time VS The Oilers
A Friendly Reminder...
(That Virtanen is a bit of a beast...)
(And pretty entertaining, too...)
In Case You Missed It...
(Brock Boeser is lucky...)
The Good Guys
(Subject to Change)
LW C RW Forwards
TANNER PEARSONRating: 72.7#65 LW
BO HORVATRating: 74.5#52 C
LOUI ERIKSSONRating: 70.3#112 RW
FL1 RatingRating: 72.49#30 FL1
J.T. MILLERRating: 74.9#41 LW
ELIAS PETTERSSONRating: 79.1#14 C
BROCK BOESERRating: 75.9#19 RW
FL2 RatingRating: 76.61#4 FL2
ANTOINE ROUSSELRating: 71.3#87 LW
ADAM GAUDETTERating: 70.6#152 C
JAKE VIRTANENRating: 72.1#76 RW
FL3 RatingRating: 71.32#20 FL3
TIM SCHALLERRating: 68.7#129 LW
JAY BEAGLERating: 68.3#192 C
TYLER MOTTERating: 69.2#127 RW
FL4 RatingRating: 68.71#31 FL4GOALIES
JACOB MARKSTROMRating: 68.8#28 G1
MICHAEL DIPIETROTeam Analysis
Top 5 Scorers:
- Elias Pettersson: 17G-22A-39P in 37GP
- Brock Boeser: 13G-22A-35P in 37 GP
- JT Miller: 14G-120A-34P in 37GP
- Bo Horvat: 9G-18A-27P in 37 GP
- Quinn Hughes: 2G-24A-26P in 36GP
Who’s Hot:
- Jake Virtanen: Starting to find some consistency, having scored 11 points (4G, 7A) in his last 12 games.
- Brock Boeser: Despite his low goal totals, is producing at over a point per game in the month of December (3G and 8A in 10 GP)
Who’s Not:
- Bo Horvat: Has yet to score a goal at home, and has not scored a goal since December 14th against San Jose.
- Tim Schaller: Has not recorded a point in 24 games, with his last goal scored on October 28th against Florida.
Who to Watch for:
- The 3rd Line: Watch for the recently formed line of Roussel -- Gaudette -- Virtanen to continue creating havoc in the offensive zone with their combination of grit, speed, and determination.
- Tyler Myers: Watch for him to continue his run of strong offensive play that includes 4 assists in his last 4 games.
Sick Bay:
- Micheal Ferland: UBI, skated Thursday, no timetable
- Josh Leivo: Fractured kneecap, 2 to 3 months
- Brandon Sutter: UBI, Possibly after the holidays
- Alex Edler: UBI, skated Thursday, no timetable
- Thatcher Demko: Concussion, unknown timeline
The Other Guys
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LW C RW
RYAN NUGENT-HOPKINSRating: 72.5#91 LW
CONNOR MCDAVIDRating: 82.4#4 C
ZACK KASSIANRating: 72.3#73 RW
FL1 RatingRating: 75.71#12 FL1
JAMES NEALRating: 72.2#71 LW
LEON DRAISAITLRating: 82.6#3 C
SAM GAGNERRating: 71.3#134 RW
FL2 RatingRating: 75.36#10 FL2
JOAKIM NYGARDRating: 72.3#68 LW
GAETAN HAASRating: 72.0#111 C
ALEX CHIASSONRating: 71.5#91 RW
FL3 RatingRating: 71.93#14 FL3
JUJHAR KHAIRARating: 69.0#127 LW
RILEY SHEAHANRating: 69.4#177 C
JOSH ARCHIBALDRating: 69.7#119 RW
FL4 RatingRating: 69.37#27 FL4DEFENSIVE PAIRINGS
OSCAR KLEFBOMRating: 74.4#32 LD
ADAM LARSSONRating: 71.1#94 RD
DL1 RatingRating: 72.72#28 DL1
DARNELL NURSERating: 73.9#36 LD
ETHAN BEARRating: 71.7#81 RD
DL2 RatingRating: 72.80#22 DL2
KRIS RUSSELLRating: 70.2#111 LD
CALEB JONESRating: 71.3#88 RD
GOALIES
MIKKO KOSKINENRating: 68.6#31 G1
MIKE SMITHRating: 65.2#55 G2
Everybody Loves a Hit...
On Connor McDavid
Some Roster News...
On the Prospect Front...
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Vancouver Canucks (16-12-4) Vs
San Jose Sharks (15-17-2)
7:00 PM PST at SAP Center
TV: CBC, SN, SN360, SN1, CITY
RADIO: SN650
Last Time VS the Sharks
A Friendly Reminder...
(Joe Thornton does some annoying things...)
In Case You Missed It...
(Markstrom gets his first shutout of the season!)
The Good Guys
(Subject to Change and will be fixed once updated)
LW C RW Forwards
TANNER PEARSONRating: 74.6#34 LW
BO HORVATRating: 75.5#33 C
JOSH LEIVORating: 73.1#60 RW
FL1 RatingRating: 74.41#18 FL1
J.T. MILLERRating: 75.4#22 LW
ELIAS PETTERSSONRating: 78.0#17 C
JAKE VIRTANENRating: 72.3#70 RW
FL2 RatingRating: 75.22#8 FL2
ANTOINE ROUSSELRating: 73.1#65 LW
ADAM GAUDETTERating: 70.8#149 C
BROCK BOESERRating: 76.2#14 RW
FL3 RatingRating: 73.34#5 FL3
TIM SCHALLERRating: 69.0#134 LW
JAY BEAGLERating: 67.9#191 C
BRANDON SUTTERRating: 72.0#116 RW
FL4 RatingRating: 69.65#27 FL4DEFENSIVE PAIRINGS Defense
QUINN HUGHESRating: 75.4#16 LD
TYLER MYERSRating: 73.2#47 RD
DL1 RatingRating: 74.32#18 DL1
OSCAR FANTENBERGRating: 72.2#85 LD
CHRIS TANEVRating: 71.9#83 RD
DL2 RatingRating: 72.09#28 DL2
JORDIE BENNRating: 72.1#87 LD
TROY STECHERRating: 72.4#67 RD
DL3 RatingRating: 72.24#21 DL3GOALIES
JACOB MARKSTROMRating: 68.5#28 G1
MICHAEL DIPIETROTeam Analysis
Top 5 Scorers:
- Elias Pettersson: 13G-21A-34P in 32GP
- JT Miller: 13G-18A-31P in 32GP
- Brock Boeser: 11G-118A-29P in 32 GP
- Bo Horvat: 8G-17A-25P in 32 GP
- Quinn Hughes: 2G-22A-24P in 31GP
Who’s Hot:
- JT Miller: Had a 8 game point streak snapped on December 10th, where we recorded 5 goals and 6 assists in that time frame.
- Josh Leivo: Has scored 5 goals in his last 6 games, including his first career multi-goal performance on December 7th versus Buffalo.
- Tanner Pearson: Has recorded 8 points in his last 7 games, including a 4 point effort on November 30 against Edmonton.
Who’s Not:
- Bo Horvat: Has yet to score a goal at home, and has not scored a goal since November 21st against Nashville.
- Tim Schaller: Has not recorded a point in 21 games, with his last goal scored on October 28th against Florida.
Who to Watch for:
- Brandon Sutter: Watch for his potential return to bring more stability to the Penalty Kill.
- Brock Boeser: After an 8 shot effort against Toronto on December 10 and a below average performance on December 12 against Carolina, watch for him to regain his scoring touch and maintain his point per game pace in over the month of December.
Sick Bay:
- Micheal Ferland: UBI, LTIR
- Tyler Motte: LBI, return pending
- Brandon Sutter: Groin, return pending
- Alex Edler: UBI, Week to Week
- Thatcher Demko: Concussion, unknown timeline
The Other Guys
(Subject to Change)
LW C RW Forwards
EVANDER KANERating: 75.4#24 LW
LOGAN COUTURERating: 78.4#16 C
TIMO MEIERRating: 76.8#9 RW
FL1 RatingRating: 76.86#10 FL1
TOMAS HERTLRating: 79.4#13 LW
JOE THORNTONRating: 70.8#150 C
KEVIN LABANCRating: 72.9#55 RW
FL2 RatingRating: 74.39#12 FL2
PATRICK MARLEAURating: 71.2#93 LW
BARCLAY GOODROWRating: 71.6#83 C
JOACHIM BLICHFELDFL3 RatingRating: 71.39#24 FL3
MARCUS SORENSENRating: 70.5#113 LW
DYLAN GAMBRELLRating: 70.7#154 C
MELKER KARLSSONRating: 69.8#117 RW
FL4 RatingRating: 70.34#24 FL4DEFENSIVE PAIRINGS Defense
BRENDEN DILLONRating: 70.6#115 LD
BRENT BURNSRating: 75.8#14 RD
DL1 RatingRating: 73.20#25 DL1
MARC-EDOUARD VLASICRating: 73.7#48 LD
ERIK KARLSSONRating: 77.7#7 RD
DL2 RatingRating: 75.70#2 DL2
MARIO FERRARORating: 71.4#99 LD
TIM HEEDRating: 72.1#68 RD
DL3 RatingRating: 71.72#23 DL3GOALIES
MARTIN JONESRating: 62.0#63 G1
AARON DELLRating: 60.9#65 G2
Everybody Loves a Hit...
On Joe Thornton
Some Roster News...
On the Prospect Front...
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47 minutes ago, lmm said:
I think you are stretching it a bit with those examples.
Shink for Gramma was a swap of failed draft picks, = move on and hope the other guy shines... neither shone
Pedan for Poop, was prety much the same, except Pedan wasn't our pick and was moody, however there is always a team that will take a flyer on a 1st rounder or 6'5" player. Pedan is 6'5"
Leivo needed to be traded and TO found him a place to play, much like the Biega deal this season. For all the abuse Toronto gets around here, it should be admitted that Dubas did Leivo a solid with that deal. I do not recall Dubas ever stating that Carcone was the "Next great hope" in Toronto. Dubas gave Leivo an opportunity and took a semi-warm body in return. Its the type of deal, if made by JB that makes the Canuck faithful crow about what a class org we have but when made by Dubas the Canuck fans jeer "we fleeced him!"
As Leivo and Gramma are the only 2 still in the NHL it is more a testament to the Marlies and Heat's ability to groom prospects.
In retrospect, the Shinkaruk/Granlund swap can be seen as that. At the time, though, it was a trade of our highest scoring minor league player at the time for a player on the brink of breaking through. I find if difficult to imagine that no development (or in Shinkaruk's case, hindrance) took place in his tenure in the organization.
True, Pedan was not a Canucks pick, but he spent two or so years in Utica. It could be argued that it was a size for potential pick.
Though Carcone was by no means a top-tier prospect, he did spend a couple years in the organization and was a pretty major contributor in the minors beforehand. If it was a "favour" trade, like Biega/Pope, there could've been other candidates that could've gone in his stead.
I understand your arguments and feel them valid. I guess it just raises a question of whether or not successful development can be determined with creating a table asset, or if it is only within the confines of growing home grown talent for the big club.
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I think what needs to be taken into account, RE Utica's success in developing prospects, is the type of prospects being added to the blender. Hard to imagine Cole Cassels developing at a significantly higher level in another organization, or Frankie Corrado becoming a top 4 two way D-Man if he were drafted by Toronto.
Also, lest we forget that certain prospects were developed BY Utica and utilized as assets for trade: Shinkaruk for Granlund, Pedan and change for Pouliot, Carcone for Leivo, just to name a few. Would this not be a testiment of successful development, or is success simply measured in point production?
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37 minutes ago, yes we can nucks said:
6-0 Nucks. Double hat trick for Leivo!
Would that do it for you?
I mean... I won't say no to that lol
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Thanks @Gassy Jack for the awesome GDT. Your posts always make me smile, and the effort you put into them really show. Thanks for your contributions!
Expecting another high scoring affair. Hoping for another productive game from Leivo so I can say "Thank you, Toronto..." a couple of more times.
GCG!!!
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[GDT] Vancouver Canucks vs. St. Louis Blues | August 14th, 2020 | 3:30pm PT, SNP | R1G2
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Welcome to the NHL: The only sport where a penalty is called on a player for sticking up for a another downed by an illegal check.
Get em' where it hurts, boys: on the scoresheet!