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12 hours ago, 48MPHSlapShot said:
I don't see what your problem is with he post, unless you happen to be one of the three guys still on he Green bandwagon.
Your spewing of pure speculation as Fact.
Sorry I can't make it any clearer for you to fathom.
I'm on the Canucks bandwagon
I thought you were?
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3 minutes ago, Taphouse Canuck said:
Great goal by Bo but why did it take him so long to try that? Wasn't there any point in the previous 55 minutes where he could have made that play?
srupid
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1 hour ago, Bure_of_94 said:
So a new GM should retool a bottom feeder? What’s the benefit? Move up to 22nd overall?
It makes sense to retool an aging team or a team that is competitive but just outside of the playoff picture.
I don’t think you’ll see a bottom feeder not make big moves under new management.
At least your consistant
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1 hour ago, Bure_of_94 said:
Out of curiosity, how does a GM envoke change without trading the core? If it’s as simple as changing only a coach, the current GM could do that.
If the core isn’t getting it done and is sitting near the bottom of the league, why would a new GM that has no investment in them, keep them? Most GMs that come in to a rebuild of a bottom feeder will make big changes to the on ice product.
your right about everything, aren't you always?
yes we should completely blow up the team and initiate a rebuild
NOT
sorry i think your on a very knee jerk stupid reaction
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2 hours ago, 48MPHSlapShot said:
What does this even mean? Everything is speculation right now. What's your point?
read your own post i responded to, try that,
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On 11/21/2021 at 10:51 PM, hoangnam98 said:
Mike Sullivan or Darryl Sutter ???
How? They are already head coaches under contract with Pittsburgh and Calgary
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1 hour ago, 48MPHSlapShot said:
The fact that Green, Baumer and King look like they're going to outlast both Miller and Boeser as Canucks is.....wow.
Tells you how much pull Green has if he somehow keeps his job while Miller and Boeser are moved. This franchise is diseased.
Speculation not fact
Just cause you say it Doesn't make it fact
But obviously that was your opinion right?
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1 hour ago, IBatch said:
It's possible i suppose - but the only one i can think of that did this was TO, and that was with Kessel... he was still fairly young ... the rest was stale but they did blow it all up when Lou came in. Dorian did in OTT as well, but his players were all UFA or close to that. I'd find it hard to believe that a new GM wouldn't choose to build around at least some of our existing core. If he wants to blow it up just trade Demko, Horvat and Miller, maybe BB too. That would bring in enough suck for a couple seasons, build around everyone EP and younger. And keep Garland. Essentially we'd be the new ARI lol..
NYR did too, but at the same time they went out and got Panarin and Trouba.
But the big question, imho, is are we now comfortable with building team around Petey? Last year and this year I have not been impressed. Weak, no explosive speed, falls down alot, no back checking like his rookie year. The whole league now knows to simple close gap in on Petey and knock him about.
Thank Christ we only signed him for 3 years. It's time Petey to show us, and your teammates what you are truly made of. Do you want to be a Canuck?
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1 hour ago, Bure_of_94 said:
Yea, this is year 3 of NY’s rebuild. This is year 8 of Vancouver’s lol.
Please explain your belief that this a rebuilding year still? This is our core, great goaltending, experience D, our stars were to be ready, JB brought in some complimentary players...........
Hasn't worked out but imho opinion this is not year 8 of a rebuild
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1 hour ago, iinatcc said:
All options are in the table I think. Maybe the new GM doesn't blow it but try to build a good supporting cast around the team or maybe it's a full rebuild.
I think we have to be realistic what this team is and maybe they are just not that good.
Even if you take out coaching into the equation, the roster has a lot of holes.
All the objective data models in predicting the each team's season had the Canucks missing the plaoyoffs. And I assume these data models are based on the roster and doesn't factor into the coaching.
Thomas Drance (I believe it was him) recently in Sportsnet 650 said it best about the management.
I am paraphrasing
but basically he said that "It's arrogant, before the season started, to think they (management) knows better than all (or most of) the objective data models predicting the Canucks will miss the playoffs" especially since these data models are used for actual real life applications (like for Vegas in gambling).
So yeah Drance was talking about management but I think this applies to all of us who thought Canucks were a playoff team.
He also said people who think all the team needs is a coaching change are in denial on what this team really is.
So yeah maybe the composition of the team is just not that good, maybe the individual pieces are, but not the make up of the team. So yeah blowing it up might be a option.
No thanks
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1 hour ago, Bure_of_94 said:
A new GM means that you want to completely blow it up. I like Benning but I think if he doesn’t fire Green soon, then it’s time for him to go. And if you bring in a new GM, expect to see Pettersson, Hughes, Miller, Boeser, Horvat and Demko shipped out.
What? That's our entire core that you are fear mongering about players being "shipped out". I disagree with your opinion.
Agree with you that a change of coaching is the first move we should make. If we don't make the playoffs, or damn close, JB will be removed as GM.
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2 minutes ago, Josepho said:
Do you guys remember when Mike Gillis took over and traded the Sedins, Bieksa, Burrows, Luongo and Kesler immediately?
When he took over? Huh
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9 hours ago, JohnTavares said:
You're more worried about the owner having a coffee with his franchise player instead of the General Manager/Management team that has completely dropped the ball for the past 8 years?
Ok. Really shows where your priorities lie.
Now now, remember we are all entitled to our own opinions, like you, and without insinuating that people's opinions show some lake of priority in life.
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Just now, Timråfan said:
Sometimes the veteran support is needed.
History shows us that championship teams are a blend of the ages and experience
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Just now, Timråfan said:
I still count Sutter but you got I point.
I could have added Motte also as he wasn’t from the start
For all the bashing he took here on CDC we could really use a healthy Sutter to anchor the 3C, Dicky 4th line
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3 hours ago, Timråfan said:
Two years ago we had better depth.
Tanev, Stecher, Toffoli, Gaudette, Virtanen, Edler, Fantenberg, Leivo, Roussell, Beagle, Erikssån(hunted down here but one of the more intelligent and aware defensiively players we had) and Benn.Eleven players had over 50% in point production.
This season it’s six players.
Back then we had a lot of depthreserve in Utica also with players like MacEwan, Gadjovich, Goldobin, Baertschi…
Sutter
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Just now, 48MPHSlapShot said:
Maybe, maybe not. I know that I don't like the way he looks out there, and I'm not just talking about his poor play.
From just a play perspective, I don't think he's the player to build around. He has all the talent in the world, but he doesn't have the size, power or motor to really drive the play. He could be a nice complementary piece as a winger, but not at the price we're paying him. I think we seriously need to think of moving him ASAP while he still has value.
Remember his epic back checking in his rookie year? Common Petey where is that?
Don't see that often enough. Or God forbid drop down and block a shot like Motte.
After what I've seen last year and so far this year, I'm not sure about his core status. Does he want ant to be here?
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1 hour ago, lmm said:
did I miss some news about Miller?
No, Twitter Trumpism
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1 hour ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:
More Pods & Gars and less Dows & Chis.
Less Petey and Brock if they continue to drag the team. Shorten the bench and let them keep it warm for half a period. Wake the &^@# up boys.
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3 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said:
Why isn't there an option where we don't keep Petey and Hughes?
I'm speaking out loud but I'm concerned that the Cancer in the room may be Petey?
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4 minutes ago, Bobby James said:
I don't think they should throw this season at all.
Look at the state of this team, we don't need to contribute anymore to the losing culture that is currently here. Canucks have thrown enough seasons, it's time to compete and try and be better.
Yeah maybe we have no chance of making the playoffs at this point, then screw it, just play hard for pride and development. I'm fine with trading a someone away for a 1st round pick and a prospect. But I do think our core needs to pull itself out of this slump and finish the year strong, so that we can have some momentum going into next season.Spot on Bob.
Trade deadline is the time, not now. play it out see who responds, works hard and improves. And the ones that don't........
Bring some young guys up for a look from Abby if the year is another development year.
It's painful because we all care so much.
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2 hours ago, hammertime said:
what choice do they have? Hey maybe if they played better we wouldn't need to rebuild.
We do not need a rebuild. This is not the time to do a panic trade for the sake of a trade. We have alot of valuable pieces for now and 3-6 years from now.
Use the remaining season to bring in some experienced management and coaching, see where your at trade deadline after analysing what's missing or doesn't fit.
They have lots of choices, some more painful and long term, others short and direct, like a new coach.
Somebody needs to make a &^@#ing decision imho, and it will not be a full rebuild.
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On 5/16/2021 at 4:14 PM, King Heffy said:
The vets were signed to avoid going full Edmonton and destroying prospects in roles they weren't able to handle. The overpayments were necessary due to the team being bad, in a market with high taxes. The success of the young players so early pulled the team back into contention quicker than expected, which made the contracts an issue.
DESTROYING PROSPECTS
I thought you said that was all Greens fault?
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On 11/21/2021 at 12:05 AM, Patel Bure said:
Yes, I would support a rebuild.
Miller, Horvat, and Boeser all moved at the trade deadline for 1st's and prospects.
Having said that, I think the above (and this thread in general) is garbage because the Canucks are going to be a playoff team at the trade deadline (or within striking distance).
Thank all the hockey gods that you Sir, or Madame, are NOT running this team.
Thanks for your GARBAGE
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[PGT] Vancouver Canucks at Pittsburgh Penguins | Nov. 24, 2021
in Canucks Talk
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I'm curious where you expect the answers to come from?
1. The puck goes in our net a lot more
2. Other teams are faster
3. Changing lines cause nothing is working
4. Nothing is working
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