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  1. I wouldn't normally pile on but this is so stupid it's actually quite funny and I've got some time to kill.

     

    So, just so I've got this clear, the trade was a mistake because...

     

    We needed "the defensive depth that Tyler Madden would offer"

    Toffoli is "likely done like Ferland" - concussion of the foot?

    If we could "ice a healthy roster" with Toffoli "we'd be storming to the Cup for sure right now" - oh so you're saying it's a good trade, just unlucky?

    If Toffoli was actually a good player he would have magically avoided injury during playoffs - ah I see, it's a bad trade because JB forgot to check Tofu's "sixth sense"?

     

    :picard:

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  2. Just now, DeNiro said:

    It wouldn’t be impossible but it wouldn’t exactly be fair either.

     

    Basically teams with less games would only be able to play teams also needing to make up games. Therefore an advantage would be given to the teams who have played more in terms of deciding spots. 
     

    As far as matchups both would present their own challenges. As stacked as Colorado is I almost prefer a matchup against them because of style of play and unproven goaltending.

     

    I think Tippett has that team playing a suffocating style that the Canucks have never matched well against. Even though it would be very satisfying to beat them.

    I get that would be possible, but not while every team plays "the same number of warm-up games". Unless you have a bunch of extra games that don't count towards anything, which since time is limited would make even less sense.

  3. Just now, DeNiro said:

    I don’t see how that’s a fairer way.

     

    So basically you tell teams that played 71 games that those games didn’t actually count? Does that mean rolling back players stats as well?

     

    Points percentage is the simplest most fair way to do it. No need to complicate things.

     

    If they wanna have a mini playoffs for the final two wild card spots then they can settle things that way. 
     

    Seems like TSN just pitched the idea because they like the idea of the battle of Alberta and Crosby vs Ovechkin in the first round.

    ^ pretty much what I was about to say, so I'll have to find something else to fill my time.

     

    Obviously sport hacks are desperate to write about something so they punt out endless speculation. The bit I don't get from the article was...

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    Creating a balanced shortened schedule, in which each team would play the same number of warm-up games before the playoffs while finishing with the same number of total games played for the season would be nearly impossible.

    I'm no mathmetician but how is that just nearly impossible?

     

    Not sure who I'd rather face between Oilers and Colorado, losing to Edmonton would be more upsetting but beating them would be more fun.

  4. 7 hours ago, Kevin Biestra said:

    I suppose another way to go that I haven't heard suggested would be to just take the team that has played the least number of games, and truncate everyone else's record to where they were after that number of games and decide the playoff positioning based on that.

     

    It's not perfect, but no solution is going to be.

    I've seen it suggested a couple of times, think it gets the Nucks in so I wouldn't be to upset if they went that way but if a team had just won 3 in a row and had all of them wiped out they'd be justifiably upset. Points % is pretty simple and reasonably fair, but it's looking more and more like it's done for the season. Hope I'm wrong, but in the meantime I'm quite enjoying the early nights (most games start about 3am my time).

  5. 22 hours ago, Dumb Nuck said:

    No, we would not be in.

    We are tied with Nashville for the last WC spot. All teams with more points are above us, your chart is only for teams tied with points.

    Since we are tied in games the first tie breaker is moot so it takes us to the second one: Most wins excluding OT and shootout. We have 27 wins, Nashville has 28 so by these tie breaking rules we are out, hopefully they’ll go with a fairer way to reflect games played if the season does resume.

    True BUT...

     

    That tie break procedure is designed purely to decide the standings during the season, if you're one point behind a team at the halfway point and they've played 3 more games who cares about the order? It would look really weird to put a team above one with more points, but everyone's aware there are 6 extra potential points available to the team behind. If the season is halted with an unequal number of games played, the situation is fundamentally different.

     

    At this point it's looking increasingly irrelevant but if they can't get all teams to an equal number of games then point % is the best way to go. Knowing our luck, if it's to decide draft order they'll use % and if it's to decide who makes a truncated playoffs it'll be absolute points.

     

    Incidentally I've always thought the fact that draws are effectively worth 3 points is unfair but that's completely irrelevant to this situation.

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  6. 15 hours ago, grandmaster said:

    The JT Miller trade, which was a fantastic trade for us, is gonna hit us in terms up giving up that pick.

     

    This was a conditional pick either this year or the next. 
     

    If we fail to make this years playoffs (which is very likely now), we ought to keep this years pick.
     

    The Canucks would surely do better next year and make it to the post season.
     

    Are we going to have tank nation start up again on these boards to get that better pick? 

     

    15 hours ago, grandmaster said:

    Tank nation was dead for most of this year. It will creep up. You will see these boards get lit up with that thought. I think we are done as well. With no Marky, Boeser and a couple hurt defencemen, it’s not gonna happen. 

    It's been dead most of the year because Nucks have been in or around the playoff positions all year. They've never tanked on purpose (just sucked the proper way) so I can't see it starting when they're finally close to making it.

     

    Urgh this is so dumb it's making my head hurt. Fortunately this thread is already conforming to Eriksson's Law as it circles the drain.

     

    Any chance NJ returns our pick for LE?

  7. 1 minute ago, Beary Sweet said:

    How on earth is Jake on the 4th line... I don’t get it

    For what it's worth, I'm guessing that '4th' line will play more than the supposed '3rd'.

     

    I actually quite like Motte and Virtanen on the same line. Sutter tends to win face-offs so that's something ( I'm still hoping Sutter shows his worth again soon, cos when he plays to his strengths I really like the way he plays, but last few games :sick:)

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  8. On 3/1/2020 at 11:24 PM, Me_ said:

    No. They currently have three 1sts.

     

     Maybe they trade one or two to other teams and keep their own high 1st pick.

     

    Obviously this thread is basically redundant by this point but just for clarity, the point was all 3 of the players you suggested trading were 1st round picks.

     

    None of them have (thus far) worked out as well as hoped, but it does highlight the difference between known assets and draft picks. Even if we treat Sven as a pure camp dump, the other 2 were drafted in the first round (5th and 27th OA I think) by JB. Hopefully OJ stays healthy and is given a chance next season, if so worst case scenario he'll be worth a 1st on his own.

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