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Especially "process of elimination". Process of elimination means you know how many TP and Mafia are there; basically saying, "if there are X number of TP/Mafia, then there must be X number of Mafia/TP? How can anyone use process of elimination in determining scum without knowing how many scum there are? Only 2 people know this: the host and the Mafia. Are you the host? Then by "process of elimination" your Mafia.

What the hell is this? Process of elimination? According to BW's list? Not enough TWTBW? This isn't scum reading, its carefree and lackadaisical bulls**t. There is no way you can be a TP after this. Unvote vote TL

Sweet. I think I was one of the last ones that didn't get a vote from you.

I don't trust Aladeen. I also don't trust 112. I don't know if 1 or both are TP but there is no way they are both Mafia (no reason for 112 to out her team's investigator/KP). I think 112's play has been sporadic and a mess at best, and her voting pattern is sketch. At the same time, Aladeen for sure having investigation powers and not being MK'd makes no sense unless the Mafia thought he would get lynched. Im just going to vote based off scum reads. It's you again JL. I apologize if you are TP because I have been on you all game, but claims aside, you are an actual scum read for me, and have done nothing to change my mind of you. I don't doubt you have been super busy, but your defense is super weak imo. Again, sorry for the sporadic posting. Thoughts before I take off again: -1 of 112/Aladeen is for sure Mafia. Aside from his early claim, Aladeen has acted TP Aladeen for the most part so I'm leaning towards 112 being mafia. -Ilduce is slipping by the cracks still and is playing almost identical to last game. -I feel like if Stamkos was Mafia, his teammates would have tried to bus him already. -If JJ was naive, I would place house money on TL being the Mafia being the one who got a lucky break. Ill be back later. vote JL

I think AV is TP, even though I'm not convinced about his conspiracy. Finding out what kind of sheriff JJ is if he truly is one would go a long way clearing names. Aladeen should either investigate JJ or one of the players he investigated. This is what the Mafia would want. Right now, most aren't sure about JJ, (hence some voting for you). If you were TP, I don't see why you would have a problem with JJ being investigated. Unless you were scared that JJ was either not the sheriff (doubtful) or revealed to be a naive sheriff (possible).

In the games I've played, BW has only been mafia once. How likely is he to throw teammates under the bus/give them scum reads?

Sorry that my activity hasn't been the same as past games, vacation has been time consumed by family. I'm here now, albeit briefly. There isn't much planned today in the afternoon though so I'll be able to be on a little bit more than these past few days. No promises tonight though when Brewfest/BurgerWars kicks off. Going through the thread, starting when JL threw a hissy fit I voted for him. Also I caught a rainbow trout, and I'm kinda proud of myself.

Because I think your Mafia. And I honestly can't think of 1 time a person who "dared" or asked to be investigated actually turned up TP.

Unvote Docs should save JJ and Aladeen this round. JJ because duh, and Aladeen should investigate either TL or intoews to determine what kind of sheriff JJ is. Vote JL

I don't like how KH went from voting for himself and singing a swan song to joining the falcon wagon last night. I know Kaz had the ability to save himself from lynches last game as an OP TP special, but I have never heard of a doc (KH's claim) being able to save himself from lynches. Just the vig? What about from an MK? I guess Falcon would have been lynched (due in part to you) if nightfall was normal but who is to say the mafia didn't calculate Toews or Stamkos as targets? Unless you know they were safe from that already. Talking about Falcon in the 1st sentence. Well that was a quick change of heart. Unvote vote KH

That honestly might have been my worse game of golf ever, and I'm counting the games I played when I was 9 and 10.

It says she voted for Virt in Round 1 and Virt ended up being 3P. Are you counting him as TP?

Obviously intentional rhetorical. The implication was that JL has been a scum read for some, yet has gone unscathed. But yes, obviously the drama that unfolded deserved the bulk of attention at the time. I don't follow. What is the relation between my post and your response? 112 is more scummy than AV?

I can't speak for JJ, but I outlined my reasons for both here:

My brain is way too tired to examine the Aladeen/KH/GFY dynamics. I'll come back to them in the morning/afternoon/whenever I get the chance but I've been staring at my laptop screen for a solid hour plus and just drawing blanks on that area. Right now, just on suspects: JL - because why is he still alive? On top of everything already mentioned about him, he didn't form any singular opinions/reads on the situations that unfolded. AV-for being the biggest bandwagon this game and literally voting for anyone that has received the bulk of suspicion at any point. Falcon-for previous reasons Aladeen/KH-the situation needs to resolved sooner rather than later. ilduce - previous reasons Dral - previous reasons JL-because why is he still alive again? Vote JL

Wtf? Which one is it? Does he look good or do you think he is KP? On top of that, immediately using the MK to point fingers is a classic mafia move, especially right after nightfall. I can't tell if you are cracking a joke or not in this post. If you aren't, I find it suspicious that you don't even consider the possibility of these 2 could be faking their claims. Or even 1. This is a siren to me. It looks like you are basing your lynch/scum targets off the MK itself, and not actual scum hunting. It's one thing if you think Aladeen and BW have looked scummy this game, but that's not the impression you are giving off of, because you keep bringing Kryten's death up as the reason you find them suspicious. So MR's reads on you are weak reasons for voting but this right here is enough to vote him for you? I figured you weren't regular TP because of how unhelpful you were in Round 1, but this just seems like a retaliation vote and completely the opposite of a TP. Considering all the scummy things MH has done this game and how I don't think it is a coincidence that his overall behavior has changed since the FoS has been moved off him for the most part, I would be down and able to be convinced to vote for him. But. Vote JL Besides being a scum read for the most of the game, I think if JL flips, it will give us a golden opportunity for a 2 for 1, with him potentially flipping mafia being the final nail in ilduce's coffin. I think after an extremely sketchy and unhelpful 1st round that saw him come 2nd in the lynch, duce is trying to build up TP cred by potentially voting for a member of his own mafia team that looks like he is going down. Unfortunately for him, I find his 2nd round somehow even more sketchy than his 1st, as JL was never mentioned by him at all in the 1st round, he thinks MH should be a vig target for possibly being an anti town TP (which is even more anti towny for the record), and he recommends slankers as vig targets tonight instead of his actual suspects. Oh, and I also noticed that he liked JL's post when he commented that Aladeen's crayons looked like dicks, which was way before the JL train got rolling. Perfect timing for a blend vote that would look good on him whether or not JL was lynched or not, and whether or not he even keeps his vote on JL. Updated: JL ilduce Dral-has done minimal, if any scum hunting since being called out on his 1st attempt of scum hunting falcon Aladeen/KH - have to be on there for surviving after role claims. Apologies for the long post. Felt the need to do so just in case I don't make it back in time for nightfall.

8 *hour*

Apologies. Just wrapped up an 8 drive. I'll be able to post here and there when I'm in the cabin and not doing family things. Reading through now.

Aren't you doing the exact same thing, only being in possession of crayons?

Scummy throw away vote.

I mean, I've been pretty vocal about him, but there is still a small slither of chance he is TP (or another 3P for that matter). Whereas at the moment, it's pretty obvious there is 0 percent chance of Virt being TP, and I haven't heard 1 good reason why he should be kept alive or is beneficial to the TP.

SLIP??????????????????

Virt looks like he is just trying to get votes off him and doesn't care where it goes.