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  1. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: trade Horvat, Kuzmenko, and Schenn at the deadline.

     

    You can tell each of them you'll make an offer in free agency (particularly Schenn). But this team needs prospects in a bad way, and the haul from these 3 would be a jump-start to the system. They are the easiest players to move right now, and the easiest to potentially reacquire for nothing (but cash, which you need to keep them anyway) next season.

  2. 3 hours ago, Melbourne Canuck said:

    Garland has been under utilised IMO. They way he’s been deployed it’s like they signed a $4.9m version of Antoine Roussel given he’s consistently in the bottom 6 and sees basically no PP time. Find it funny how guys like Boeser are given prime opportunities with EP40 to find offense but Garland is playing 8-10 mins in the bottom 6. They’re not maximising his potential and depreciating the asset in the process. Currently he’s a near $5m third/fourth liner. Madness. 

    Fully agree.

     

    I'm a fan of the player, and think he could be utilized so much better. It's pretty hard to accomplish much in 10 minutes, with Sheldon Dries as your center. I think Boudreau doesn't like smaller players (also see: Hoglander). But I really appreciate how despite the raw deal Garland has got over the last year, I have never heard so much as a rumbling of a complaint in the media.

     

    I suspect the coach and a few forwards (Horvat, Boeser, maybe Kuzmenko) will be gone by the deadline/offseason. It will be nice to see what Garland can do with a new coach and more opportunity.

  3. 1 hour ago, Nail said:

    We have a trade to announce...

     

    To CAR - Jani Hakanpaa
    To VAN - Dysin Mayo, Ryan Tverberg, Gannon Laroque

    Thanks to @theo5789 for the negotiations.


    Hated to part with Tverberg, and Hakanpaa isn’t that high of a producer… But getting a top-4 guy on a strong playoff team with a cap hit under $1.5M, long-term no less, was too good to pass up.

  4. 1 minute ago, Fred65 said:

    To rid the team of Horvat or any other is not about the player (s) but about the direction set by ownership. Their direction is none existant and often takes polar opposite direction ie sign Miller and get rid of Horvat. The team lives in a contrarian world.

    Even last summer, I thought it was likely that 1 of Miller or Horvat would be signed, and the other traded. Given where the team is, it didn’t make much sense to lock up both into their mid-30’s.

     

    And if you go back to last year when Boudreau came in, there was a lot of pumping JT’s tires, and a lot of questioning Bo’s style of leadership. It seemed to me then that Miller would be given priority, if he indeed wanted to stay.
     

    Of course, since then Bo has upped his game, and Miller has (somewhat understandably) taken a step back, with a new baby, and a retirement contract in his back pocket. But since Miller arrived in Vancouver, he has overall been the superior player, and once Horvat has his retirement contract, he will likely let his foot off the gas a little too. It’s human nature, and happens all over the league.

     

    The team should trade Bo, because they are going nowhere with him, plain & simple. Not because of him, but because the team’s defence needs an overhaul, which will take years, and cap space.

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  5. 4 minutes ago, Fred65 said:

    My my! to throw the responsibility for the teams failing alone on Horvat  is nonesensicle. The reason the team has been a constant failure since 2012 starts with ownership pursuing and impossible dream. The add to that a rookie GM, a rookie coach and no capologist ( also aIso  a very poor pro scouting team ) It takes a team effort to be as bad as this franchise has been. Horvat is no McJesus for sure but hMcJ hasn't  tuurned around Edmonton either (as well as Draisidal ) No, the 10 year failure is ownership pursuing the imossibel dream. It doesn't matter who you bring in there will be little success. The team actually has some quality skill, it doesn't matter if the ownership keeps looking for a short term fix. Remember what Torts said when he left "this team is stale" Gillis wanted to rebuild and was fired as a result !!( he garnered more success than ANY other GM in the history of the franchise !!

     

    Horvat for the most part has done his job pretty well

    I’m not blaming Horvat at all. Please read what I wrote before counseling me about something else.

     

    Here’s the Coles notes: the team is not good enough, even with Horvat at his absolute peak. No prospects in system, Horvat almost 30, so team and player will likely get worse. So why sign Horvat at a premium, just to repeat more failure?

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  6. 16 hours ago, HighOnHockey said:

    I've long suspected he'll end up in Colorado somehow.

    If I were Sakic, I’d be focusing more on shoring up 2C than getting another winger. Rantanen, Landeskog, Nichushkin, Lehkonen…think they’re set at wing. But they definitely are missing Kadri.

     

    In their position, Horvat will help them more than Kane.

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    I don’t understand the attachment people have to some players. What exactly has our team accomplished with Horvat? We had one little run in the bubble, in a year where we were trending to miss the playoffs, but snuck in on a once-in-a-lifetime playoff format. And even then, once we faced a good team, it took a career performance by Demko not to get absolutely steamrolled.

     

    And that is when we had Pettersson and Hughes on ELCs, and some promising prospects in the system. Since then? Jack squat. This despite usually excellent goaltending, franchise record-setting offensive contributions from Hughes, and last year a 99-pt career performance from Miller. Still, nowhere close to good enough.

     

    But honestly, look where we are now. Are we a playoff team? Nope. Are we a contender? Not even close. Do we have some bluechip prospects coming, that will push us to new heights? No, our pipeline is one of the worst in the league. Now project where Horvat is going to go on his next contract. Does anyone think he’s suddenly going to be a perennial 40+ goal-scorer well into his 30’s? Seriously? This is his career season, and we’re still not good enough.

     

    The last thing this team should do is break the bank to sign Horvat. It would be insanity. We need to rebuild, get younger, and stock the system. Horvat’s breakout could be a gift that benefits our franchise for years…if we trade him. If we re-sign him at his increased salary demands because of this anomaly of a season, then it quickly turns into another Miller contract - turning an asset into an anchor.

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  8. 2 hours ago, Fanuck said:

    I know people are going to post up a bunch of reasons why this wouldn't happen - but I'd explore a BoHo/Rathbone for Byram (cap-dump player) deal at the TDL - I'd even retain on BoHo's last year (that cost would certainly not be a burden given the return) to make that happen earlier so he can fit Col cap. 

     

    First, I don't think Byram is untouchable by any means - if they didn't have Makar, maybe, but Byram is going to be underutilized for his entire career if he stays in Col whereas we have virtually nobody ahead of a guy like Byram on RD. 

    Second, BoHo gives them an actual replacement for Kadri opposed to Rodrigues/Compher who were never going to be able to adequately fill that loss.  

    Third, as a true 'rental', BoHo represents no 'financial' commitment to the team long-term.  We could easily take back Compher's expiring deal in return to make the deal even more appealing. 

    Fourth, Sakic and MacFarland know better than anyone how hard it is to repeat in this league - Byram would be a huge cost to them but BoHo would give them a seriously legitimate chance of doing just that, and maybe worth the price to repeat?

     

    Basically, I'd be making calls if I were Allvin and I don't think a deal like that is as unrealistic as some might initially think. 

    Byram is a LD.

  9. 17 hours ago, Alflives said:

    Add Miller, Garland, Boeser to that list please.  

    This team is miles away from being a contender.  

    Basicallywe have Petey and Hughes and Demko. 

    I think we’ll trade one of those guys, in addition to the pending UFAs. Probably not for a much though - just to free up cap.

     

    The mix on this team is just bad. Even lateral moves that bring in fresh faces may improve things.

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  10. Guys, there’s only one way to do this:

    - Trade Horvat, Schenn, and Kuzmenko

     

    These are the players that are easiest to move, and that will yield a good return. Don’t fall for the contract year bump. Sell high on these guys in their UFA year, restock the system, and get a new coach in the offseason…one that can rebuild the  defensive structure of this team. Because what we’re doing ain’t working.

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  11. 34 minutes ago, -AJ- said:

    I'm starting to like modern agents less and less.

    Meh, it’s in the team’s best interest to trade him anyways. The way things are going, he’ll probably get us a 2nd round pick.

     

    But we can also say we’ll be there at the start of free agency hoping to bring him back.

  12. 9 hours ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said:

    I wouldn't mind Kevin Rooney. Good faceoff guy, tough as nails, and can play the PK. Not sure what his number is at contract wise, but rather have him than Sheldon Dries or Studnicka playing center.

    Rooney’s decent, but his contract is 2 years at $1.3M per. That’s a problem for most teams for a 4th liner.

     

    Not a bat-**** crazy problem like Jay Beagle at 4 x $3M, but a problem nonetheless.

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