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21 minutes ago, Jaimito said:
Happy for them.
Holy %^&#!
I'm happy for them too, but i'm gobsmacked at how much this bronze showing for them creates this kind of national frenzy. And a day off work! We should get at least that for a Gold ffs!
Is it just that Latvia hasn't had a lot of international success with their sport teams or other kinds of tournaments, or do they really love hockey that much? Somewhere in between? Wow. Silovs will be a hero there. Almost like Hasek was for Czechoslovakia. And this is for a Bronze. Love the Latvian people! This is why Canada has to help defend Ukraine all the way. If Ukraine falls, Baltic states like Latvia are next.
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8 minutes ago, Coconuts said:
In all seriousness I wouldn't be shocked if he has a good season, and not just because it's a contract year
This is a good way to enter an offseason of training, having won gold
Myers should be able to benefit from a more tight defensive system from Tocchet. Even just that forwards may be in a better position to help him out.
That or some other GM might take a flyer on Myers after watching him here. Especially if the cap does go up. Its not completely bonkers to think of taking on Myers cap hit for one year, if they have dibs to sign him after that for a reasonable number. D that size doesn't grow on trees.
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Watching Canada get their gold medals never gets old.
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WOOOOOOOOO! Toffoli! Once a Canuck, always a Canuck!
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Who does this German goalie think he is?....Silovs?
Edit: never mind. WOOOOOOO!
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Why don't more NHL players want to be part of this? Besides injured.
Its not the Olympics but jeez. Especially players that haven't been able to play in the Olympics in the pasts because of COVID or other injuries. Oh well, this evens up the competition more. In the past a Germany vs Canada final would be a laugher.
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WOOOOOO! tie game
Lets go Canada!
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8 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:
And there will be a Game 5.
There IS a Hockey God!
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Okay. I guess we can start talking about this tournament now that Canada has won the quarter final right?
Canada wins against Finland.
Myers and Bear did fine. Usual Myers stuff. Uses his size and reach, but not physical at all, and mostly shoots the puck when the goalie has a clear view right into his crest. And his trade mark giveaways. Funny watching him make the same kind of brain farts on Team Canada. Should have actually got a cross checking penalty near the end of the game with Finland only down two goals. Toffoli as Captain sealed the deal. Montembeault was excellent in net.
But lets also talk about Latvia! And our star back up goalie donning his Canucks mask. Beating Sweden in their quarter final at home. Silovs was robbed of the player of the game. Lets see how he does facing a C-list Canadian lineup in the semis. This tournament is starting to get interesting.
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11 hours ago, iceman64 said:
How many said Petey sucked at the beginning of his contract when he wasn't producing.
How many said Bubble Demko was dead when he wasn't playing well this season?
How many roasted JTM for slowly getting off the ice in a game and CDC went off the rails?
How many said Hughes was too small when he got here and wouldn't make it?
I'm not going to sit here any longer explaining the past few years to you if you haven't been paying attention, go back and read Canucks forums for the last 5 years ffs! It's been constant! Are you for real?
You have never heard we suck tear it down before? 1000's of times in the last 5 years? Really? Now that's funny.. we're done here lol
You are confusing some fan concerns, in the moment, with good players working though slumps....... and most fans general opinion of the quality and potential of players long term.
You got to learn how to read between the lines on here. If a poster screams "TRADE EVERYONE!" after a particularly bad game it doesn't mean the next day they wont have calmed the f down and readjusted their emotions and logic. I've always said....what goes on in the GDT, stays in the GDT
Now if that same poster carries on about how bad Petey, Miller, Demko, or Hughes are even when they are putting up points, breaking records, or making saves, then we have a problem. But how many were or are doing that? I think very few to none at all. Also there are still some young or more newby posters on here as well you have to forgive some level of emotional immaturity at times.
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I didn't start this OP but I'll jump on the dog pile if its there.
The problem with JB......was that there wasn't any one problem. It was the plethora of bad decision on top of bad decision on top of bad decision. It wasn't just the obvious big deal flops like LE, Gudbranson, OEL, it was because there were so many other smaller terrible trades and signings that compounded things that rapidly devalued the team every year.
It wasn't just overpaying one or two acquisitions, it was overpaying/over terming pretty well all of them. JB showing his desperation to agents. And his arrogance and stubbornness. He wooed Arizona for two years trying to land OEL, without actually watching him play in those two years apparently.
It wasn't just over valuing and badly evaluating pro free agents and where they were in their on ice production, it was doing that with almost all of them. I have to laugh at the excuse some Benning defenders make..."nobody could have predicted so and so would not work out here...." Um....to quote a cliche, that's why he was paid the big bucks. He was supposed to be the one that played in the NHL, worked in other organization's management, Do some actually have the balls to say they should be just as good as one of the a select 32 people hired as an NHL GM?
It wasn't just not stocking up on draft picks, it was trading away the amount of picks to where JB, the "draft king" reduced his picks to less than even the allotted number during his term. On a team with no farm to speak of.
And to those who point to his #1 picks he didn't trade away that worked out. Implying that picking Petey and Hughes forgives everything? He also flubbed Virtanen and Joulevi, and the others are still proving themselves. Over eight years of drafting near the top, and including the miserably low number of picks after the first round developed here and thriving here, and missing on players like Tchatuck and Nylander, I'd still put his drafting on balance at a C at best.
He left the team with no identity, no direction. No prospects. No culture. No plan, and the wrong coach. Like hiring a first time chef who doesn't actually know how to cook. Or how to get all the items on the plate at the same time. He did manage to pick out some nice main course luxury proteins, but not enough side dishes or salads, wine pairings, to complete the meal. And now those proteins are going to spoil unless this new group of chefs can manage to find the right ingredients and dishes to compliment them, with a strict budget, before we have to throw them out and start over. JR and PA still have a lot of work cut out for them. Its complicated. i wish them good luck, they're going to need it
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Too bad that Bruce just didn't have the systems part down as a coach. Such a great ambassador for the game, and motivator for players. Plus a lot of fun for the fans. Maybe what he needed was Tocchet as his assistant coach to lay down the law.
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2 hours ago, 24K PureCool said:
Well buckle up cause we ain't getting out of this for another decade if we are lucky.
That OEL trade literally killed off the Petey/Hughes core.
I've lived through some dumb trades and draft picks, being a Canucks fan since 92. And I've always thought....meh, next time. But as the months turned into years, and years into decades, and I begin to turn into what I'm sure some would call an "old Canucks fan" by now, I am also becoming a grumpy old Canucks fan. The lost Benning decade, actually more like a decade and a half by the time the new management cleans up his mess, makes me extra grumpy because I'm not getting any younger. And I want to be alive to see the parade on Robson.
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22 minutes ago, Jaimito said:
Tkachuk defends better than OJ.
So does Chatfield
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Canes deserves it more but the Panthers are a more fun team to watch.
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Phoenix is Gary's Bakhmut.
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Missed the game. Just stopping by to go...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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5 minutes ago, zimmy said:
Schenn is going to get paid somewhere in this league, no more sweetheart one year deals.
Allvin could have decided to keep him. Forget about the third round pick. Offer him 2 years for 2 mill. A slight raise and an extra year. Maybe should have, but I think Canucks want to upgrade Hughes partner and get younger. But maybe ya don’t know what ya got till is gone.
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4 hours ago, DarthMelvin said:
Ok Like this post if you googled what the heck FLOUNCE meant.
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2 hours ago, *Buzzsaw* said:
Chicago had three first round picks last year, now this year they get Bedard.
Although they were lucky in getting Bedard, drafting high over the last few years was no accident... Chicago's management has been focused on a complete rebuild for two years now.
They are a franchise who look at the facts objectively and plan around logic.
They are making no attempts to acquire high profile players for next season... will probably sign some 1 year contracts with veterans who will be placeholders/temporary CAP minimum who will be moved aside for the prospects who will be ready in 2-3 years. No long term deals will be considered... they are in rebuild, not a retool.
Expectations are they will be unlikely to make the playoffs in 2023/2024, but the Wirtz family is completely ok with this... no panic, and their knowledgeable fans are quite happy to watch the rebuild go ahead, knowing the process will likely deliver another dynasty.
By having unloaded Kane, and with the retirement of Toews, they have shed a huge amount of CAP... leaving them plenty of room to acquire high end free agent talent when they need to.
Chicago fans went through this same process back in 2006/2007, when they were at the bottom of the league, then had first the 3rd overall pick, (acquiring Toews) and the next year, the first overall. (acquiring Kane) From that experience, they understand there is a method for building a winner... which involves a realisation some years will be write offs.
I don't see anything like that kind of systematic planning in the Canucks organization... there was no effort to try to find value from the Sedins when the team was clearly trending down... and this year, when it was clearly apparent through a number of circumstances the team would not make the playoffs, there was no effort to maximize our draft opportunities.
As long as short term
“there was no effort to try to find value from the Sedins when the team was clearly trending down... and this year, when it was clearly apparent through a number of circumstances the team would not make the playoffs, there was no effort to maximize our draft opportunities.
As long as short term planning dominates this team's approach, a real chance at a Cup will be limited“
One can only imagine where we’d be today…. Heck where we might have been a few years ago already… if Aquilini and JB had thought more like Wirtz and Bowman/Davidson back in 2014
It may have been difficult then where the cap was, for another team to take on the Sedins, but you never know. No effort was made. But there were other targets. Start with the unprotected, then move on to convince the ones with NTCs that they really don’t want to stick around for the tank. Keeping the twins would actually be great as mentors, if they didn’t want to split up, even as a trade to a contender.
On top of lining up picks starting in 2014, like Chicago has been doing lately, we hung onto prospects like Forsling, McCann, not trade away good picks, who turn into players like Andersson or Guenther. Not giving up on developing a number of other players, like Tryamkin
All that said Canucks management has backed themselves into a corner. Mostly under Benning they frittered away that period. It’s now too late for a real rebuild. Or rather through the laws of chance after a decade, we’ve stumbled into a few nice core pieces. That’s like half the work. Not that the rest of the job will be easy.
Any real shot at the Cup will be limited, I agree there. And unsustainable, without more top talent coming up the pike. But it is what it is. Hey if we are one and done, at this point I’ll take it.
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7 minutes ago, Goal:thecup said:
No, its all great. And WTF flounces anyway!?!
We get to enjoy the beautiful weather and get some work done outside.
I think the NHL should start the season Sept 1, so the playoffs would end earlier.
And nothing short of a HIMAR could get me to stop cheering for the Canucks; even in the summer.
Cheers Everyone! Hope you're having a Great Time!
Ha, I hear ya.
That is the one silver lining for me. I love being outdoors when the weather starts to turn warmer and sunnier. And the further Canucks go, the nicer the weather, and later the sunset. Especially on the west coast, where you will be playing a lot of away games starting in the afternoon. On a glorious day I don't HAVE to seal myself off in a dark room and watch other series games like I would if it was the Canucks.
Have a great summer y'all.
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16 minutes ago, Coconuts said:
Sometimes hockey is more enjoyable when you're not living and breathing it, when you aren't watching every game, watching all their interviews, and so on. One team wins the cup a year, one team wins the draft a year, even if you win most of the time your season is likely to ultimately come short of the ultimate goal.
Some will argue that the journey is more important than the end, and to some extent they'd be right, sometimes you've gotta enjoy games and seasons for what they are. Sports are a pain in the ass when the end result regularly ruins your evening or sours your mood, when it gets to that point it's healthy to take a step back. At the end of the day it's a sport, a game, entertainment.
Personally I'd recommend that anyone who's burnt out the fortunes of their favourite team start watching other teams play. Hockey's more enjoyable when you track the league as opposed to one team, it offers more insight, you get a bead on what good teams/hockey look like, and sometimes it's easier to enjoy games you're not personally invested in as much.
Thanks Dad.
Just joking, You said some good things to consider.
I agree with most of this. But "sometimes it's easier to enjoy games you're not personally invested in as much."? I don't know about that.
There are different kinds of "enjoyment". Its not fun to be on the outside looking in again. Its a superficial kind of enjoyment to watch other teams compete for the Cup. At least for me. Maybe because I'm already invested in the Canucks, decades now. I can't just divest in my shares, or transfer them over, that easily.
Now it's true it is "easier" to not stress out and yell at the TV, and deal with super highs and super lows watching the Canucks fighting in the post season. But that's a unique kind of stress. Because there is one potential enjoyment moment still on the horizon, that would wipe out all the pain, and surpass all previous moments of enjoyment. So the stress is worth it.
But of course there is still an appreciation of the sport itself. And NHL playoffs are the best post season of all the major sports. I can enjoy watching skilled players do their thing. My level of enjoyment is somewhere between watching the Canucks in the playoffs, and watching the All Star game. In that no matter who wins, I will just say...oh thats nice, good for them.
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How about a minimum rule.
Every team is guaranteed at least one #1 pick every 50 years
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1 minute ago, PistolPete13 said:
Going after Pietrangelo is a Kane thing to do.
He’s not going to go after one of Vegas’ actual tough guys.
And he takes a penalty in the process. Bright.
They knew Kane was high risk high reward when they signed him. This is the high risk part. Dufass
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[ECF] Carolina Hurricanes (M1) vs. Florida Panthers (WC2) | Panthers win series 4-0
in General Hockey Discussion
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18 actually!
Both he and Tchuk would have been useful here. Another Benning failure was not getting the deal done when there was interest from Calgary in a Bennett > Virtanen trade. Radically different trajectories since then.
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/virtanen-bennett-trade-would-make-sense-for-canucks