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18 minutes ago, brbetts542 said:
Not sure if this has ever been discussed so apologies if that’s the case.
Im an older, social media illiterate dude so I’m reaching out to you folks with an idea and the potential implementation of said idea. I’m wondering if there is a way to torpedo a reporter/agency who is annoying Petterson? For example: if jimmy from blah blah blah website keeps asking Petterson about his contract status at training camp, can we the fans, negatively effect his company, business or job? In a way that will make him wake the heck up to the realization that we the fans care that Pettersons wishes are being adhered too? Can we Effect jimmy in such a way that he changes his line of questions and behaviour?
my initial thought is that any press is good press but that can’t be the case if we the fans are truly organized in our goal…
I feel that the intentions and line of questioning from the media don’t always align with what I want the players to be accosted with and Pettersons wishes being respected could go a long way into positively swaying his perception of Vancouver, then subsequently his next contract negotiations…
cheers
So you want to cancel reporters for doing thier job? Most media understand they need to maintain a cordial relationship with the players, and most players understand its part of their job to interact with the media. Contract status for star players is always going to garner attention tion and illicit questions from reporters. Again. Part of the job for both the media and the players
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47 minutes ago, Canucks Curse said:
Imho
the time is now
huggy, Petey, Miller, Hronek, demko, kuzy, Bluegger, Suter among most else of team all in their prime
bring in another top D
havr a strong start
Petey will then sign
to WIN
2025 1st
top 5 protected
2026 2nd
Hoglander
Rathbone
Garland or Brock
to VAN
morissey
D becomes
Morrisey Hroneck - potential best pair in league
Hugs Cole
Soucy Myers then Bear
that would be a top 5 D corps in league
not to mention Willander in 2 yrs
If they move Morrissey it'll likely include more quality less quantity
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6 minutes ago, 24K PureCool said:
Things change especially with Mathews signing now.
I am totally fine trading him. I am sick of this would he won't he sh*t.
I don't see how Matthew's signing would have any barring on it. It sounds like he wants to see the direction the team is taking before he signs. He wants to play on a team with a shot at winning
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26 minutes ago, 24K PureCool said:
At this point I don't really care one way of the other if Petey wants to stay or not.
Just hope it is resolved one way or the other before season start as I am tired of all the Canucks drama not to mention other drama on the internet this year.
Gonna be brutal too with the US election cycle ramping up now. Commercials is gonna be insufferable.
Its already been reported that he wont be negotiating a new deal this summer. The only way it's resolved before the season starts is if he's traded.
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8 hours ago, NUCKER67 said:
I feel that whoever these "oddsmakers" are, they haven't really watched the Canucks much, know the effect of the coaching changes and how this year the preseason preparedness will be different.
Boeser is on a mission this year. Miller, Kuzmenko, Petey and Hughes want to win and they're training hard. Podkolzin and Klimovich are training together and will be ready. Demko had a bad year, and I expect him to have a big bounce back season. Nope, I think these oddsmakers just looked at last year's roster and stats and went "I dunno, they'll probably do the same".
I'm guessing these same buffoons picked the Leafs to get to the Cup finals too. Fools.
Come on man. Odds makers do in depth studies to an extreme degree to come up with the odds. Their jobs depend on it. Get it wrong to a largevdegree and the company that employs them stands to lose a lot of money. (And they likely end up looking for a new job). You may not like the odds they come up with. But to think they didn't take every important aspect into consideration is inane.
Don't like the prediction? Think you know better? Stick it too them and lay a bet down and collect if you're right
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29 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:
To Quote Ford v. Ferrari.
"How long did you say it was going to take you? 200-300 years?"
Well. When you consider it took Montreal the better part of a century to win all theirs. A lot of them came in a 6 team league, and none came in a 32 team league with a salary cap, yeah. 200-300 years minimum seems right. Lol
For the record, even though I'm Montreal fan I have NEVER used the 24 cups boast because they're irrelevant to today for all the reasons I listed above.
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24 minutes ago, Goal:thecup said:
I will continue to take every opportunity to run the Montreal Canadiens down until we have more Cups than them.
That's a lot of cups to make up for. You're likely going to be running them down for the rest of your life.
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22 minutes ago, VancouverHabitant said:
Who wrote that one?
Tony Ferraro just regurgitated information in this ranking that didn't really present anything new.
I also take issue with other publications that always just look at the draft pedigree of prospects without examining their play after being drafted. Lucas Forsell for example has outperformed a lot of SHL prospects who were drafted in the 1st and 2nd rounds, but this isn't reflected in the prospect evaluations that a lot of these publications put out.
Pronman
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People who hate Montreal will hang on to what the kid did forever just so they can run him and the franchise down.
54 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said:In this new world, penance is forever.
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If anyone is interested The Athletic just dropped their ranking of Vancouvers' prospect pool. They came in 24th.
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11 minutes ago, kloubek said:
I think Jersey would indeed want all the Hughes brothers. Think the marketing potential!
But in order for that to happen, it's up to the Devils to present a trade offer that is so much overpayment that Allvin would have no choice but to accept trading away the best defenseman this club has ever had. I feel assets brought up in recent posts are pretty much what they'd need to offer to make it happen. And even WITH all the assets coming back, NJ still gets the best player of the bunch, and the Canucks will be once again struggling to find their #1 quarterback until one of either Nemec or WIllander hopefully step up to fill that role.
I say Siegenthaler, Nemec, Mercer, 1st rd pick for Hughes and Garland.
Kuz Petey BoeserBeau Miller Mercer
Podz Suter Mik
Hogz Blueger JoshuaAman, PDG, Stud
IR: Pearson
Siegenthaler Hronek
Cole Myers
Soucy Mcward
Wolanin, Bris, Juulsen
After a couple of years:Siegenthaler Hronek
Soucy Nemec
Hirose Willander
NJ was operating at 92% capacity last season. Similar to Boston, Washington and several other American teams. I think you overestimate the marketing appeal of 3 brothers over 2 brothers. Simply said the ask is too much for NJ to give up ( even if it is what it would take to get Quinn)
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21 hours ago, Bobby James said:
Lol obviously hence the first line I said where it would have to be heavily weighted in Vancouver's favor. You mention NJ would not even do something close to this, what type of offer would you say?
Vancouver would be giving up the literal best #1 Dman they have ever had (and he's young still). So the cost being NJ's 2nd line center, a 2nd pair LD and a top prospect (while agreed it is a crazy high price) would likely be what Van needs to pull the trigger.
I'm sure they'll be waiting for the moment Hughes is a UFA anyway to throw a big contract his way.
I honestly don't think there's a deal to be made that would work for both teams. Heavily weighted in Vancouvets favour means NJ says no thank you. They don't NEED Quinn. And Vancouver says no to anything that's not a slam dunk. It just doesn't work.
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23 minutes ago, Doogie said:
He would be a massive upgrade offensively compared to Siegenthaler and he’s taken massive strides defensively this past year so I’d argue yes they could definitely use him. The fact of the matter is Hughes would improve their fantastic D immensely by adding over 50 more points to it. Acquiring a young cost controlled top 10 defencemen wouldn’t be a PR move. Also, my point on Nemec was to counter your point of gutting the team. He’s not on the team so removing him wouldn’t be gutting the team. So no I wouldn’t call it a strawman argument.
We could continue to go back and forth on this but like I said initially I wouldn’t trade Hughes. However, if the Canucks did entertain the idea they shouldn’t settle for anything less than what I presented.Like you said. Vancouver shouldn't trade him. That said trades have to work for both teams, and the overpayment that You'd want as a fan is the exact reason for NJ to not do the trades proposed. They are huge overpayments that NJ wouldn't come close to offering
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2 hours ago, Doogie said:
I wouldn’t amount this to JUST an expensive PR stunt, he’s only 23 and had 76 points last year. He’s a top 10 defencemen in the league and if he keeps progressing the way he has, could be top 5. Mercer is a winger who can easily be replaced by Holtz, Siegenthaler had 21 points last season. Hughes alone replaces both of their point totals. Nemec, although a 2nd OA, hasn’t proven anything yet. So, no it wouldn’t be a PR stunt. You undervalue what Hughes would mean to a team, just look at what he means to the Canucks.
He's not needed. Yes. He's a great player but they have a fantastic D already. So yes. It's essentially a PR move. They're a better team keeping what they have. Discounting Nemec because he hasn't proven anything yet is such a bs strawman argument.
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8 minutes ago, Doogie said:
They wouldn’t be gutting the team, Hughes replaces Siegenthaler and they’ll just need to replace Mercer in the lineup. They’ll just bring up Holtz. The other pieces are either futures or Nemec who isn’t in the line up. Devils are ready to compete now and who knows what’ll ch age in 4 years.
They're still much better off keeping what they have. Nemec was the 2nd OA pick a year ago ffs. It's not like he's just a throw in. They already have a fantastic defense. Overpaying to this degree for what amounts to an expensive PR stunt isn't something a GM does and keeps his job
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9 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:
Sure. But Vancouver has completed their rebuild or retool. They are shooting for the playoffs this year. They aren’t in the business of collecting picks and prospects anymore. So it doesn’t matter to them if they are in LTIR, which they will be for two more seasons.
I’m assuming Montreal is still trying to build their team, or are you suggesting they are done?
No. Montreal is still building. And they have plenty of cap space, draft capital and prospects to utilize towards that end.
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32 minutes ago, Doogie said:
I wouldn’t trade Hughes but if the Canucks decided to do so the minimum I would expect coming back would be:
To Devils:
Hughes
To Canucks:
Siegenthaler
Nemec
Mercer
1st round pick
2nd round pick
Jersey doesn't need Quinn. Sure. It's a nice story but why gut the team to do it when they can wait and potentially get him for free in 4 years.
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20 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:
LTIR space and cap space are two completely different things. LTIR space is only used when you run out of cap space. Being in LTIR during the season limits the amount of moves you can make and it also stops you from banking real cap space so you can make trades, especially at the trade deadline.
Probably the worst thing that can happen to a non playoff team is to be in LTIR. Montreal can’t make any moves now and weaponize cap space to get picks and prospects. They don’t have a lot of cap space next year either unless they plan to run on LTIR again.
Montreal is closer to being under the cap without the use of LTIR than Vancouver is. They can be under the cap with a 22 man roster. That'll leave them $10m of ltir to use this season if need be. Next year they may not even need to use LTIR.
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1 hour ago, Bobby James said:
Yeah it would obviously have to be heavily weighted in Van's favor. NJ would have to accept they'll lose the trade, but look at it as more of a business transaction then anything else. 3 Hughes Bros leading your team for the next decade would be awesome.
To NJ:
Hughes
Rathbone
McDonough
To VAN:
Hischier
Nemec
Siegenthaler
Honestly yeah it sounds crazy, but Hughes is no doubt the best player involved (Hischier is 2nd). We get an extremely good 2 way C and their top D prospect + a solid 2nd pair LD. Yes NJ of course comes out weaker, but I could still see them being very competitive for a long time still and again the business having all 3 bros would do for the organization alone would be huge.
(Oh for fun one last addition, in this hypothetical Van only does it if they have a trade lined up for Miller. Don't need a ton back, but can't have his cap there too and fit everyone in lol).
Not a single chance in hell that NJ would do even close to that
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cap space,
Prospect pool
4. Montreal Canadiens
Top three prospects: David Reinbacher, Lane Hutson, Filip Mesar
Top pick in 2023: David Reinbacher
From an organizational standpoint, Montreal’s blueline is brimming with potential. From Jordan Harris, Justin Barron, Kaiden Guhle and Arber Xhekaj who all spent time in the NHL this season, to Reinbacher and Hutson who are perhaps the best prospects of the bunch, it’s obscene depth. Then there’s the talented but problematic Logan Mailloux, who was inexplicably picked and signed. Hutson’s skillset is off the charts, while Reinbacher was the most NHL-ready defender in this year’s draft.
Up front, Owen Beck, Joshua Roy, Filip Mesar and Sean Farrell will all challenge for roster spots at camp, looking to add to the young core in Montreal.
21 picks in the next 2 drafts. - draft capital
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3 minutes ago, Gawdzukes said:
It always makes me shake my head but there is a large portion of posters that feel the need to incorrectly denigrate other teams. I think it's some weird form of trying to make themselves feel better about the Canucks. All through my life in sports I practice the opposite and always try to give others credit where credit is due. You tend to win more when you respect your opposition and try to better yourself instead of hoping others are worse.
Anyways, it seems to me that the Habs clearly have all of those things going for them now and are proceeding with slowly building up their team until it makes sense to push a little harder. Good job from their front office the last couple of years. Hopefully that Slafovsky pick comes along for you though. I haven't really been following that. Is he looking like a bad pick or is it just a matter of waiting for development?
He probably should have spent time in the minors. Generally I think it's a mistake to rush any 18 year old kid into the show. He was showing signs of aclimating to the north American game when he got hurt and was shut down for the year. Montreal was inundated with injuries last year with only Suzuki managing to play 82 games. As a result there was a lot of player and line juggling. Slafkovsky should show much better this season if he's able to come to camp healthy. Personally I'd love to see them start him in Laval to let him get a lot of ice time and build his confidence back up.
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42 minutes ago, DeNiro said:
Still spending way too much for a team that could (and should) very well finish bottom 10 again.
Top 5 prospect pool? Hardly. They barely have a better pool than the Canucks. I would say we have prospects just as good in every position except maybe center.
Granted I haven't seen any rankings since the draft. But over the past year all the rankings I've seen have had Montreal's prospect pool in the top 10 whereas Vancouver has generally been rated very poor. I've seen as high as 17 but as low as 28.
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15 minutes ago, DeNiro said:
Cap space?
They also need more prospects to fill out their pool. They’ve got a couple high end guys but not much else.
With LTIR they have rough $7m in cap space for this seadon. The cap is expected to rise significantly next season. So yes. They have cap space. As far as prospects go they have a top 5 prospects pool right now. They have NHL quality prospects at every position. They're still lacking superstar talent but moving Savard isn't likely to bring in an asset that will get them that.
Draft capital wise they have 21 picks in the next 2 drafts.
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Just now, DeNiro said:
They’ll be bad next season.
Might as well get good value for vets while freeing up cap space. They’re in build mode you’re right which is why they’ll need draft capital, prospects, and cap space.
They already have all of those things.
Proposal van-vegas
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I don't see how this is a fit for Vegas. They're already over the cap and you want them to swap a big, right shot waiver exempt D for an undersized winger who requires waivers and isn't a clear upgrade on any of the 13 forwards they have in their current lineup