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13 minutes ago, Chase456 said:
Jt Miller is comparable stats to Petterson maybe add on Rathbone or similar.probably would have to add boeser or bauvillier to Montreal to make it work
Doubling down on the homerism huh
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16 minutes ago, Sean Monahan said:
So it sounds like they'd be looking for things Vancouver probably can't/won't offer. Dam, I was thinking he'd be just about a perfect fit for Van's 3C spot. Thanks for the response though.
In general I think Montreal and Vancouver are bad trading partners right now. They’re both rebuilding and have similar holes in the lineup. Vancouver has a couple young pieces in a Hughes and Pettersson that really stand out. Montreal doesn’t have those superstars as of yet but they have far better prospect depth
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10 minutes ago, Sean Monahan said:
@qwijibo what are the chances Montreal would be open to trading Dvorak? What would the acquisition cost look like?
He’s certainly not on the list of untouchables. That said it would need to be a deal that makes sense for Montreal. They don’t have cap issues atm so you can’t view him as a player they’re looking to dump. He’s probably their best faceoff guy and hes reliable defensively. He actually fits well as their 3C.
That said with the acquisition of Newhook and the possibility of Beck pushing for a spot they may be willing to move him. Montreal has a ton of NHL ready wingers and left shot d so I think they’d be looking for a decent right shot D prospect (unlikely) or a couple draft picks. I’m thinking a couple 2nds or a 2nd and a 3rd would get it done.
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Both teams tell Vancouver to pound sand
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The islanders one is pure fantasy. They gave up 13th OA last draft to get Romanov. Do you honestly think they’ll move him and a pick just to dump Bailey and get Boeser?
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23 minutes ago, shiznak said:
Just because a team overpays to get a player doesn’t mean that’s his true value.
Montreal got a first for Chariot a few years ago. Does that mean Myers is worth a 1st?
And they used that first from tbe Chairot trade to get Newhook today.
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Just now, cripplereh said:
Cap space for three, now four years is why players are not moving like the n the past.
Blame Bettman for that.
More teams are playing elc players and others getting less money, only ones still making big money are the odds ufa or players they have any to keep,plus stars .
Blame COVID. Bettman and the players union managed to keep hockey going and even extended the CBA to avoid a work stoppage.
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2 hours ago, eeeeergh said:
Cole is a very good penalty killer, would be happy to have him. Id take him over Graves just for contract reasonableness.
Still need a Rd too though. Maybe then we get Dumba?
Hughes-Dumba
Cole-Hronek
Wolanin-Myers
I dont hate it
Garland for Dvorak (someone elses idea, i think its good)
Montreal keeps Dvorak over Garland.
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5 minutes ago, iinatcc said:
Possibly but there's no doubt in my mind they hope he can be a center. My memory is foggy but wasn't that the hope when the Habs traded for Drouin?
Different situation entirely. At the time Montreal had very few options at C. The Droiun fiasco was largely motivated by Bergevin giving into a small but vocal group of media and politicians who wanted more homegrown Francophones. It was a mistake the moment it happened.
The fact that Newhook CAN play centre certainly doesn’t hurt
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2 minutes ago, cripplereh said:
Look at Garlands numbers compared to PLD .
Garland IS NOT over paid for his numbers.
People have to realize his contract is good and to replace him unless it's on elc would cost the same if not more.
Regardless. He adds no value to Montreal when they have guys who can do the same job on an ELC. Montreal isn’t moving the 5th OA for that package.
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6 minutes ago, iinatcc said:
So basically Kirby Dach reasoning?
Seems like the Habs have a history of making head scratching moves when it comes dealing with centers
I’d be willing to bet he lines up as a winger in Montreal
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9 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:
$8 years $68 Million?
Guess Montreal was a smokescreen.
Montreal wasn’t willing to give up Dach and Winnipeg wanted nhl players. Not picks and prospects .
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6 minutes ago, Gawdzukes said:
As the resident Montreal guy would you do Rathbone, Garland, and the 11OA for the 5OA?
Not a chance in hell. Garland is overpaid for what he brings and Montreal has several nhl ready guys who saw action last season thst could be pencilled in to where he would play for a fraction of the cost. Montreal also has a bunch of far more proven young defencemen in the system with more coming. Rathbone adds no value. So essentially it’s 5th OA for 11 OA.
Montreal May drop back 2-3 spots max, and if they do the return is rumoured to be far better than that
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1 minute ago, garthsbutcher said:
He may be still 22 but there is a reason the avs moved him, massive overpayment
People said the same thing about Dach last summer. Worked out pretty good for Montreal.
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4 minutes ago, PistolPete13 said:
Glad that you are weighing in on this topic. Your knowledge of the Habs has always been pretty reliable. Good to see your measured take, rather than the usual “Wtf is Bergevin still running the show in MTL” that we see in these parts.
Hughes has done a great job in Montreal far and it’s been reported for a couple months now that he was looking to make another deal in the same vein as last summers Dach trade.
It was pretty much a forgone conclusion he wasn’t going to get into a bidding war for Dubois so anyone surprised by this move doesn’t follow Montreal very closely.
He gave up more fur Dach but there were also higher expectations on him. Time will tell how this ends up looking but Hughes is making moves to improve the term with a similar aged core that can mature together
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1 minute ago, amplified0ne said:
They probably could have got Lafreniere, better not be another Drouin type trade.
Montreal gave up a 9th OA right shot beast in Sergechev for Droiun. They’re just giving up essentially 2 2nds here. It’s in no way similar
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1 minute ago, EddieVedder said:
newhook still has tons of upside. could be a point a gamer soon.
Especially if MSL works the same magic he did on Caufield and Dach. Realistically he’s likely going to be a middle 6 winger
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1 minute ago, rekker said:
May well be true. But Dubois would suit their small team better. Imho
They aren’t that small. They have a few small guys but the size thing is overblown. I’ll take a smaller heart and soul 200 ft captain like Suzuki over a floater like Dubois every day of the week
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Just now, cripplereh said:
I see that but chances can turn around and bite you.
Giving up picks in this draft you better be sure and to me in 5 years the picks should be better then what they got.
We’re talking 31 and 37. Not top 10. Odds that the guys they would have drafted in those spots even make the team at some point are pretty low
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Just now, rekker said:
Not sure if it was an option but the Habs are a small bunch. I would of offered Suzuki for an extended Dubois
Suzuki > Dubois.
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Just now, cripplereh said:
What is Montreal doing?
Same thing they did with Dach. Taking a chdnce on a young pjs yet who hasn’t met expectations yet. They have a lot of prospects and draft capital and are utilizing it to get guys who fit with their core. They now have Dach, Caufiejd abd Newhook from the 1st round of the 2019 draft
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5 minutes ago, D-Money said:
I could see Washington moving up to ensure they get Mitchkov.
Rumour is Briere in Philly really likes Michkov and is willing to package 7 and 22+ for 4 or 5
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8 minutes ago, RWJC said:
Anybody willing to do this? Not sure MTL does though.
MTL trades:5th overall
Radek Dvorak
Arber Xhekaj
VAN trades:
11th overall
2024 1st round pick
2025 2nd round pick
Connor Garland
Jack Rathbone
On our end is it overpayment to move up 6 spots?
MTL ditches Dvorak’s contract now that he’s a 4th line C. We get an ideal RD in Wifi whom MTL would obviously be reluctant to give up.
But, It addresses need and gets us into another potential franchise C drafting territory. Or, we turn around and trade that #5 tomorrow.
Montréal definitely doesn’t do it
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2023 NHL Entry Draft
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