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Heres the Dana White blogs for Saturday night. Awesome that he uploads this stuff for the fans!
part 4 (ill post this first because its the most exciting)
part 1
part 2
part 3
40 minutes of behind the scene action for saturdays event!
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Too bad i was hoping HDNet would air this freak show
I read somewhere where they said that it would air on HDNET. So if you have the channel you can pvr it or check it out.
I think it starts 2 am Pacific time. Maybe google to be positive. I dont have that channel.
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pretty good fights.
i was hoping hughes vs serra was longer. It didnt really tell us much. Hughes had top control and Serra almost fluke ko'd hughes with the accidental headbutt.
Tommorow in Japan is the Dream Super Hulk Tournament.
Leave it to the Japanese to put on mma freak shows but its soo crazy you gotta watch!
Jose Conseco is fighting too! haha hes going to get destroyed. It wont be aired in north america but check out mmatko.com or youtube or something. Someone should have the results up. I think its on 5am our time, tuesday morning.
Its basically Giants fighting one another and some other goods fights.
Mayhem miller vs Jacare for the middleweight title. That should be technical.
and kid Yamamoto is fighting again. should be a circus show you cant miss!
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Scott Ferrall is my favorite sports host. I couldn't miss his antics.
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I think the Kryztov (sp?) fight was on the main card more so for Brian Stann's debut in the UFC. Stout/Wiman was in there to be a brief intermission to get the crowd jacked up again.
I'm not too sure how you guys expect the UFC to continually buy talent from overseas, as opposed to developing their own. Affliction is proof that that model does not work. TUF has been an excellent farm system for the UFC. Talent such as Kenny Florian, Diego Sanchez, Rashad Evans, Forest Griffin, Keith Jardine, Marcus Davis, Michael Bisping... etc.
I love Jason Macdonald and Denis Kang as much as the next Canuck, but you don't get on the main card by losing to B level talent in the octagon.
I also loved watching Pride back in the day, it had awesome cards once or twice a year. When Zuffa bought Pride I thought it was going to be the best day ever, so did Dana White. Turns out nobody in Japan cared about an American MMA organization operating inside it's own borders. Do you guys really think that Dana just wanted to dissolve Pride? Yikes. Only Gary Bettman likes losing money.
Lastly, super fights are almost always super disappointments. For every Cro Cop vs. Fedor, there was three Sylvia vs. Arlovskis. From a fans perspective, I routinely prefer the undercards to the main events. Luckily for me, there are lots of undercard bouts!
solid post! another good new contributer to the ufc thread along with Big G and Holyovernovacaine. The UFC thread has new blood!
I agree they wanted Krystof to kill 2 birds with one stone. One have a tuf contestant people are familiar with, and 2 feature the 2 WEC LHW champions Brian Stann and Steven Cantwell.
I think they had Stout on there as the 1 Canadian fighter on the main card. I think thats the one fight that should have been substituted for the Kang Professor X match. Stout was coming off 2 losses in a row and Wiman off 1.
Kang deserves better than that because even though he lost last match he was a high rated fighter and performed great in last match but then gassed and got triangled. Other than the ending he was tearing belcher up.
and UFC is just UFC. Its trying to be a league just like the NHL. NHL isnt just about hockey world wide its about trying to get the best talent fighting for one championship under one banner. I always hated the ropes in pride. They are not mean for MMA. Everyone always falls out and there are too many constant restarts.
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Worst part about the main card was having that boring TUF guy Kyrstoff fight, for whatever reason instead of the likes of Jason McDonald/Nate Quarry, Denis Kang, or even David Loiseau. Hell, the fight of the night was Stout/Wiman (which I still think Wiman won). They need to stop worrying about promoting TUF guys (especially ones that didn't win), and worry about showing a card people wanna see.
yeah i agree I was hoping the Denis Kang fight would air
i watched it online through the korean people covering it. Here is the video:
It was a very entertaining fight!!
http://mixedmartialartvideos.com/2009/04/1...m-video-ufc-97/
Wow, the only good fight on that card was Wiman & Stout.BORING....
Question (it's a girly one, sorry) Does anyone know what Matt Wiman's entrance song was???
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qi...19004353AAeKmVA
someone answered:
Flyleaf - "Red Sam"
I dont remember the song at all so i dont know if this is the right answer or someone lied in the answer.
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I like him too. I don't even care that he lathers himself with Vaseline
But if you are liking him for being humble. I ask you "have you ever heard Fedor trash talk anyone or ever not been completely humble?":D
from the fox sports fedor bio
I agree with you completely, except I would probably say that I blame Anderson Silva 85%..I've never been a fan of counter punchers like Anderson Silva and Chuck Liddell and last night shows why; during the entire fight with all the antics, stupidity and showing his frustration, I was getting upset at him and not Leites. I think Machida belongs in a different kind of counter punch category because his style is a little bit different, I actually appreciate how he jumps in and out and takes very little damage. I think the difference is that he selectively applies pressure to force mistakes, whereas Anderson Silva waits for his opponents to stalk towards him and relies on his opponent to dictate the pace of the fight.
The frustration was really annoying because if he really is a world class fighter, he should be taking the fight to his opponent and dominate the fight himself, not expecting his opponent to be a punching bag who will stand in front of his punches. Thats why I like fighters like GSP (not because hes Canadian at all, its fighting, who gives a crap where their from? :S). GSP is comfortable taking the fight anywhere, and looks to make his opponents make mistakes, instead of waiting for them.
I think Leites fought the fight he needed to in order to have any chance to win, his downfall was that he didn't open up the fight with leg kicks to weaken Silva's takedown defense, and when he had him down he should of put in some work on the ground and pound to wear him out a little bit more. I was actually sort of happy that was his gameplan because it showed discipline and the smarts to understand how to beat Silva.
I wanna see Maia get a shot now because I think if he can pull guard hes got a good chance of submitting Anderson, they just gotta make sure Silva doesn't take that pre-fight vaseline off his face and rub his body down again :|
great post. You should comment more in the ufc section
haha yeah. Zuffa just took down the greasing video down from youtube because they didnt want it to hurt anderson silvas reputation... yet they put on ufc 94 on spike tv and advertised the gsp vaseline. Dana really loves anderson...
I am just waiting for the news to come out that the UFC is fixed*Puts on Flame Shield* *Runs*
*runs after mugpot!*
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I hate to say it. But GSP disagrees with you.
because hes modest
he would never say "im the best" and thats why we love him
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He isn't a WW or a LHW though that is the situation. He doesn't cut weight to fight lighter guys. He stays at his weight to fight anyone. It doesn't matter to him. He fights at the same weight he walks around at. That tells me he isn't afraid to fight anyone. Bigger or smaller. He just stays at his regular weight and kicks everyones donkey. Here is the question for GSP or silva. Would either of them fight him at their walk around weight? I'm pretty sure that is a big no. When you cut weight you are only doing it trying to get an advantage. Fedor doesn't cut weight to fight in a lower weight class. He doesn't gain weight to fight bigger opponents. He relies on himself for the advantage and not the scales.
Edit: glad to see you come back again
I had the choice of reading your post of dom's post. I thought I would go for intelligence first. Now I'm going to read dom's post because I need a good laugh.
thanks haha. I havent been posting much at all but when i returned i noticed dom. seems like the new geeno. new poster? i didnt check his sign up date.
The concept of p4p is if everything was equal and they were the same size who would be better.
Would GSP/Silva fight Fedor at his current size? hm? they are much smaller.
They cut weight because everyone else cuts weight. WW are actually middleweights. MW are actually light heavyweights. Light Heavyweights are actually Heavyweights. The guys at heavyweights are actually super heavyweights.
Its actually beneficial for Fedor to fight at his own weigh 240 because most of the guys in that division are slow and out of shape.
LHW are actually better than Heavyweights because they have both knock out power plus speed. That i think is the top division in all of MMA at the moment. It would actually be more challenging for Fedor to fight at LHW where the skill level is higher.
The heavyweights have knockout power but are slow and pretty one dimensional. Fedor is a well rounded fighter in a division of one dimensional guys.
I still rate him #2 p4p though but i just think at WW and LHW he would lose a few times. If Fedor was 185 like GSP i think he would lose because GSP just has more skill.
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^ you have to remember though that more weight does not = better in heavyweight.
there comes a point in heavyweight where more weight actually makes you a worse fighter hence why the division allows a 60 pound difference.
Fedor built the way he is at WW and LHW would probably lose to quite a few guys. I think he would lose to GSP. The skill level at Heavyweight is pretty bad compared to the others.
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I give 80% blame to Leites for that fight last night. I agree Anderson didn't look as good as he has in the past but Leites really didn't give him much. He was running back and falling down every time he got hit. Chuck even said it in the post fight interview that Andy swung and hit air and Leities still fell over onto his back, quite pathetic really.
On another note, GSP would absolutely destroy Anderson in a bout. As long as Georges beats Alves it's on according to Dana White so let's see it! GSP wouldn't stand with Andy very long he would take him down and ground and pound him and TKO Anderson. GSP new P4P KING!
I blame Anderson 60%. He is the middleweight champion. he pulled the same crap against Cote. People paid 50 bucks to watch a top fighter dance.
We all already knew Leities was a can so he fought to his max. But what you essentially have is Anderson Silva being afraid to fight on the ground VS Thailes Leities (sp?) who is afraid to stand and punch.
Both guys sucked but if Anderson is truly a top fighter he should not be scared to fight anywhere. Like Fedor and GSP he should go and crush an opponent anywhere the fight goes.
Sorry dude. But even though gsp fights at 170 he comes into the ring on fight night at just under 190. On the other hand silva usually comes in around 200. But last night he looked especially thin and his weigh in weight was 183 which means he may actually have been on weight for this fight.GSP is 5'10 and maxes out at 187.
Anderson Silva is 6'2 and maxes out at 225. But cuts big time (probably is 205 before leading up to fight) to make it to middleweight.
Theres a huge height/weight difference here.
I agree with Jermi, Anderson needs to fight guys his own size with the same reach in the LHW division. He is fighting cans and now he wants to drop another division to fight GSP?
I thinks GSP is a lot more talented and more well rounded than Silva but this shouldnt always be about GSP fighting the best, for once it should be about Anderson fighting someone bigger and better than him. Dana cant keep feeding him TUF fighter cans and then telling the world that Fedor sucks and fights garbage.
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good for shogun there.
leities and anderson looked like crap. Especially Anderson because he did the same thing with Cote. Brutal.
Leities wanted to fight on the ground, Anderson wanted to fight standing up. They couldnt seem to work together haha. One guy laid down, one guy stood up.
funny that the crowd kept booing and chanting bullsh!t.
edit: its weird that the commentators kept praising Anderson again like the last fight against Cote when all he was doing was shadow boxing. "Anderson is out of Leities league" "silva is too much" all in the while Anderson is just jogging around the octagon and Leities is taking a nap on the floor haha.
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Dana white was on TSN off the record today. should be on their site tomorrow.
he said fedor is fat and out of shape and therefor not best p4p
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Carwin reminds me of a new Mark Coleman. Anyone else seeing the resemblence? Not fighting style-wise, just by looks.
Carwin looks like the offspring of Nicolas Cage & Chris Leben.im going to have to combine the 2 and say he looks like the lovechild of mark coleman and nicolas cage.
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So Brock/Mir 2 on July 11 at UFC 100???? It's not official yet, but it looks like that's the deal!
Wow. This could be the best night ever. I can't wait to be there live!!!
i think that fight is off for now.
mir needed surgery on his leg or something like that.
they are replacing it with a LHW title shot.
Rashad vs Jackson or Machida. Rampage gets first choice if he wants to fight him now, or wait since he just fought and fight the winner of machida/rashad.
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i was looking forward to the gonzaga carwin fight the most too. I didnt think jardine vs rampage was going to be exciting. It started getting interesting in round 2 after an ok round 1. But round 3 was ok again. I hoped rampage would have fought with more depth. Hes becoming like a chuck lidell. circle circle punch.. circle circle punch punch. It seems in last few fights he is just looking for the Knock out. He got it against wanderlei though.
carwin impressed me with the ko of gonazaga. That was pretty wicked. Its nice to see some new people in the weak HW division. Carwin, gonazaga, lesnar, couture, kongo, valasquez, jr santos. The division is starting to get more depth to it. Its good to see some new faces then the same old ones in the hw division for the past 5 years.
its tough to conclude how carwin is overall though. We havent seen his full game. hows his wrestling and jiu jitsu? he reminds of a houston alexander. knocking people out. but when he faced someone that put him on his back he was helpless.
i was also impressed with brandon vera too. he looked much more quicker and fluid than his last performance.
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I'm donwloading it now cause I wanna hear what Rashad/Page were saying to each other at the end. The pub was super loud. And I'd like to see this apparent crazy ko kick by Matt Hamil.
no need to down the whole thing. its on youtube.
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I guess you've been drinking rumnog as well
I exchanged presents with myself too.
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im going to watch frosty the snowman today. get myself into the mood...
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I don't think many fighters look at challenges as much as they look for money. I think for most of these guys the fact that they cut weight has nothing to do with being in a more competitive division as much as it means they think they can gain an advantage by being larger than their opponents. Which would mean more money at the end of the day if they can keep winning.
that is true. cutting weight is a skill too.
You cant have same day weigh ins because if someone misses weight then there is no show. Plus they tried it in boxing and people started dying of fatigue.
Being the biggest you can be in a division does help.
Plus i think the LHW division has been more popular than the HW division. Its more of an interesting division. I hope bigger dudes start training MMA too. I think the big athletic guys are lost to other sports where they can make more money.
Because if you look at boxing heavyweights these guys are super big/strong and super cut athletes. MMA heavyweights pale in comparison.
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I don't think it really lacks fighters. It lacks fighters that are willing to fight at that weight. Lots of guys cut their weight so they don't have to fight in the heavies.
I agree. Thats true too.
I think more people see the challenge in LHW. Brandon Vera was the only dude that wanted to take the other route. He said he wanted to win HW and then see if he can win LHW. He should have stayed in HW because hes going to get lit up in LHW.
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I would love to agree with you. But seeing as fedor is actually carrying extra weight on top of his muscle I doubt he would have any issues with any 205 lb'er There would likely be some comptetive fights. Nothing he couldn't take care of though. He could probably lose 15 lbs of fat and cut to 205 and not suffer much at all. I think a lot of people think that being ripped is a sign of strength. It's just a sign of working hard. But has little to do with actual strength. I have a fat friend that we ironically call "Tiny" Probably about 5"10 300lbs. We were at ozzfest the first year they had it. They had one of those sledgehammer games. He walks up to the thing and just smashes it. The Bell rang so hard everyone stopped moving with in about 40 feet of the game. He takes the cd he won and walks up to the bleacher we were sitting at. For the next thirty minutes the line that formed after seeing him do it tried and tried to accomplish the same task. We saw Bikers and roid monkeys the whole throng of bad intentioned. So we thought "Fluke" he got lucky. He says let's see if it's a fluke. He went down and successfully did it again. The line dispersed right afterwards. Weight is a funny thing when delivering power.
Fedor is a strong guy. Muscle size isnt equivalent to strength.
Hypertrophy is the term for bigger muscles. Strength training is a seperate thing. Bodybuilding and strength training arent the same thing.
I know that for personal experience. Ive been weight lifting for the past 6 years. I am built but im not particularly super strong because i was bodybuilding not strength training.
Certain exercises trigger different responses. One for strength one for hypertrophy. They are associated but bigger muscles dont = more size. But if you can combine them both and be big and strong then you are a force like GSP.
There are guys that are 210 pounds that can only bench press 160 and guys thats are only 160 bench press 210. Dana has a build just like Fedor and he benches 315.
The guys at LHW are both built and strong. Its good that fedor is still quick but its his speed that can take out guys. Thats why i think he would lose at LHW.
HW division is super weak. I mean if Frank wins his next match who does he fight? Hardly anyone competitive in the mix. the heavyweight division lacks complete fighters.
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You always have antonio silva junior. I would put him against Brock in a second. But he's a super heavyweight. But on the other hand. I would have no problem watching Fedor fight him either. I wouldn't think it was unfair at all. even at a 70 lb difference. In my eyes all weight classes below heavy weight are basically vying for second best. Just a personal opinion. But as for strength at those weights. I disagree that 40 lbs in heavy weight is unsubstantial. a 40 lb difference is substantial especially if the person you are fighting is fit. One of my good friends is about 235. He trains mma. He has said many times An out of shape dude with an extra 40 lbs on you is tough to deal with. But a Fat guy that is 40 lbs over size that is when it becomes easier. 40 lbs at the end of a punch changes things up. Just look at Tim Silvia for that. The guy is not ripped. But he's tall and heavy. He can deliver powerful punches because of the extra weight. If he was 40 lbs lighter do you think he would stand a chance in mma? The difference between a guy that is 185 and 205 is not a whole heck of a lot different seeing as I'm 195. I'm speaking from experience.
You are talking normal people in terms of personal experience. A very strong 170 pounder vs a very strong 205 is a HUGE difference.
Ive always felt Tim Sylvia sucked. Hes only got reach. When he fought Nog once it hit the ground the dude was horrible. Or when Randy got in close Tim again sucked. That again is another advantage, when you opponent is making 265 at that height it means hes skinny and easier to take down. Look at when Brandon Vera fought him, he got in close and Tim didnt do much and this was after Vera broke his hand too.
An out of shape dude with an extra 40 lbs on you is tough to deal with. But a Fat guy that is 40 lbs over size that is when it becomes easier. 40 lbs at the end of a punch changes things upbecause fat people have poor balance. they are slow.
the problem here is that Anderson Silva and GSP are both in GREAT shape nullyfying any advantage here. Both fighting at their own weight would be a 185 vs 220. Its not even close here. The power difference is huge. But style wise GSP could win because Anderson has horrible ground game but still, a GSP at 6'2 220 would kill an Anderson at 6'2 220. The reach would be the same. At the moment Anderson has more reach on GSP so the standup is unfair.
At heavyweight you dont have to care about the shape the other person is at. If you are in shape and can move quick you basically have the KO power to knock someone out in your class. Hence the 60 pound difference.
Why do you think there isnt a heavyweight 205-265 and a 144-204 division?
Generally the heavyweight division should be where the best are but at the moment the training of these guys is nowhere near boxing standards as it is in the other MMA divisions. The guys at MMA heavyweight are for the most part old, fat and out of shape. I honestly think of Fedor dropped to 205 he would get beat. Just like when he fought Arona. Arona is smaller than the other heavyweight but gave him the best match because Arona was quicker then the big guys.
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MMA is sportfighting, while I agee that an art that does well there gains credibility, it's a long way from real combat.
Its the only real world scenario where you can prove your worth.
In real combat the first guy to kick the other guy in the balls basically wins. Once they've been hit you can bite them too.
In a real fight there are many cheap things you can do.
Or they could just be real men and fight at what ever weight they're at.I don't think you understand how big a difference size and power makes at the lower weight classes.
The difference in height and weight at lw,ww,mw and lhw is huge compared to HW. Thats why HW allows for a larger 60 pound difference.
In other weight classes there are 15 pound increments. LHW 20 pound increment. In HW there is a 60 pound difference allowed because at that size height and weight at not much of a factor anymore as long as you are not super short.
Its the same as MW Ninja Rua fighting HW Sergei Kharitonov. They were "real men" fighting at their natural weights and Ninja got absolutely demolished. The power difference between mw and hw are huge.
The difference between a 185 pounder vs a 220 pounder is much different than a 240 pounds vs 280 pounder. There comes a point in heavyweight where all the added weight is actually holding you back then helping you. Other than Brock Lesnar. but i mean how many dudes are that built and fast at the height/weight in MMA at the moment.
edit: 2 boys one is 120 pounds the other is 160. The difference here is huge in terms of power compared to someone 240 and 280. At 240 they have the same Knockout Power. The 280 is much slower. Its actually better for the 240 er. The 120 pound kid would get killed by the 160'r given the skill is the same.
he sounds like a chain smoker.
But if you are liking him for being humble. I ask you "have you ever heard Fedor trash talk anyone or ever not been completely humble?"
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its true. he says every morning he wakes up and drinks his first urine of the day
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