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I picked Evason because I judge it by how much a coach can get out of his player material.
If Trotz was nominated, like he should be, he would be the no-brainer pick for me.
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Adam Larsson is hardly an upgrade on Myers to begin with. Seattle may as well pick Holtby in the expansion draft. Makes no sense. No reason to do any of this. We can sign someone cheaper than Danault if we have the space and I don't see this off-season being the time to invest in someone long-term in FA.
Yea not a fan at all of this. Makes 0 sense.
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5 minutes ago, Schmautzie said:
Except you have to look at the opportunity cost of signing a backup goalie at $4.3 million per season. Spending that much on Holtby cost Benning the opportunity to sign Toffoli, who would have contributed more to the team than a backup goalie could.
They didn't know if Demko could handle being a full-time #1. Insurance.
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Come on boys and gals, let's put the mocks in writing.
Buffalo - Owen Power
Seattle - Matty Beniers
Anaheim - William Eklund
New Jersey - Simon Edvinsson
Columbus - Mason McTavish
Detroit - Carson Lambos
San Jose - Dylan Guenther
Los Angeles - Luke Hughes
Vancouver - Brandt Clarke
Ottawa - Cole Sillinger
Chicago - Fabian Lysell
Calgary - Chaz Lucius
Philladelphia - Kent Johnson
Dallas - Jesper Wallstedt
New York - Fyodor Svechkov-
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Expect the worst, hope for the best.
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I think I have posted this before but I have my concerns with Edvinsson. I am not exactly some scouting pro nor do I claim to be but he has issues with decision making and consistency. I guess you could call him an immature player. No doubt he has upside but he just reminds me of Philip Broberg who I have never really been a fan off (not necessarily playing wise). Just head scratch type of decision making that makes you furious. He will need 3-4 years at least.
Carson Lambos is being slept on by a lot of people. Excellent player, whoever get's him will feel like they have gotten a steal. Same goes with Sillinger. I really like both of them. Lucius as well. I think the top 15 this year is really good, just doesn't have that clear cut #1 pick. I think a lot of the final result will have to do with where teams end up picking rather than where the prospects are ranked. I think teams lists this year will be very different from each other.
This draft is super interesting. All I know is, we are leaving with a very good player no matter where we pick in the top 10 and I don't really mind if its a forward or a defensemen.
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Jones would definitely look amazing in Canuck colors. I also think the Canucks have the assets to make it happen.
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Latest I've heard on the Clarke situation is that they are stuck on the term of the contract. Canucks want the contract to coincide with Bennings and Greens (aka 2 year extension). Clarke wants longer apparently. Why not do a 2 year with an optional extension?
This has been reported by Thomas Drance. Does this guy actually have sources that are legit? I have feeling I have read some of his insider stuff lately and hes been quite off in his reporting and what then ends up happening. Correct me if I am wrong here.
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2 hours ago, wallstreetamigo said:
For me it comes down to a lack of operational efficiency and that there is a reason other NHL teams expand the leadership to include more than 2 voices. Dissenting and varied input are important parts of effective management decision making. Makes it easier to avoid mistakes because 2 guys think the same way or view the risk similarly.
1 GM, 2 assistant GMs and 2 senior advisors make up the management group. I count 5 voices. Jim Benning, John Weisbrod, Chris Gear, Doug Jarvis, and Dan Smyl.
In terms of amateur scouting you have roughly 25 voices. Player decisions roughly 12 including pro scouts.
According to rumors, the Canucks are looking to further expand that group. Sedins in in advisory roles, perhaps this will be across the organization. I could see them dabbeling in player development with the help of Ryan Johnson, skills coaches, strength coaches and such.
Also rumors about the Canucks hiring a president of hockey ops. Hopefully we also hire an Ian Clark (trying to stay somewhat on topic).
Stop claiming things that are untrue to push your agenda. Find a way to make your point without it.
EDIT: I highly recommend you (and anyone else) take a listen to this interview with Weisbrod. It gives a little insight to the Canucks approach to their scouting department. One thing I noted was the importance of having a mix of voices within scouting.
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Sorry to continue derailing this thread to more of a discussion about the Canucks scouts, I just can't let this one slide.
To my knowledge, the main reason Brackett did not return to the Canucks was that he wanted more control and say in terms of the scouting department rather than what players would be selected in future drafts. He wanted more say in who would scout for the team. Considering that, I would rather Benning than Brackett making those type of calls. Ignore the individuals, I would much rather my GM set the tone for the future of the team he is trying to build and making sure the whole organization is moving in the same direction and speaking the same language. It makes way more sense than a mid-manager deciding the direction of a single entity within the organization.
Benning was the one to promote Brackett in the first place. He also recognized Ron Delormes quality and re-instituted him as some sort of head within the department (a long with Gradin) after Mike Gillis demoted Delorme to WHL scout when he became GM. Benning has clearly got a very good idea of what scouts he wants within the department and what roles they should have and how things should work. He has also promoted Todd Harvey to Director and from all the things I've heard, Harvey is doing a fantastic job. JB has a keen eye for scouts and has built a very strong scouting department and culture within it.
Benning leans heavily on his staff and emphasizes that every scout should be apart of the discussion and ultimately what player to select. I rewatched some videos from the 2020 draft both prior and after the draft. It could not be any clearer that the scouting staff was behind the Joni Jurmo pick. They had him ranked much higher than his draft position and had already circled his namn on their list according to Harvey as he was falling towards their pick. Gradin had some insights on him and Jurmo matched the type of player they were aiming to get. Defensemen with size and mobility. Harvey was ecstatic about the pick.
The things Brackett explains in his interviews while he was here, is what Benning wanted his scouting staff to work towards. He was paraphrasing the values that Benning and most likely Weisbrod as well declared. Clear communication, multiple viewings by different scouts for interest players, cross-country and league scouting by staff, everyone's opinion is heard and encouraged to be shared, thorough research, preparation and documentation. It's probably the side of Benning I am most impressed by. It's not easy putting the right people in the right place. By all indications, he has done that successfully multiple times during his time here. Every player selected is a team effort and it's so evident if you take the time to watch (the awesome) behind the scenes videos from the past few drafts. God I am such a nerd in terms of this stuff, I just love this side of the sport.
Fun fact, even when Brackett was here, Benning had already promoted Todd Harvey to a "cross-country" scout in his second year with the team. It was only Harvey and Gradin that traveled and watched players from multiple countries. Harvey is highly respected within the organization and clearly by Benning with the faith he has put in him and how he has advanced within the organization. Year 1 scout, year 2 cross-country scout, year 3 interim Director and year 4 Director fo Amateur scouting. I am giving Benning the benefit of doubt that he found a highly capable replacement for Brackett from within. We could have ourselves a scouting gem ladies and gentlemen. The role of director is crucial and I think the most important side of it is being the spider in the web for all the scouts and managing them in a good way. High communicative skills is key, Harvey has that.
Ian Clark is good though. I like him. He goalies and stuff. Demko and Marky. Pay the man.
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7 hours ago, wallstreetamigo said:You dont have to take my word for it. Go read some articles on it. Its all out there and easy to find.
Name one other NHL team where the GM and one Assistant GM are also:
President
Director of Amateur Scouting
Director of Player Personnel
Director of Pro Scouting
I will give you a hint. There aren't any.
And of course you arent buying it and thats why your response is a simple one liner to try to dismiss it. Its all true and widely reported and verifiable.
A lot of false information being sputtered about in this thread. If you are so well read on the topic you have either misread or you're pushing some agenda here.
Jim Benning is GM with John Weisbrod and Chris Gear as his assistants.
Judd Brackett was replaced by Todd Harvey who is Director of Amateur Scouting. He was interim for the position for 2020 and I haven't heard anything change there so I am assuming he has just carried on in that position. He was the only scout to accompany Benning and Weisbrod at the 2020 draft table. Ron Delorme and Thomas Gradin share responsibilities as chiefs of amateur scouting. Ron Delorme is a Chief Amateur scout and Thomas Gradin is an Associate Chief Amateur scout.
Speaking of Weisbrod, he is just like any other scout around the table, he offers his opinion and advice but has less influence than Harvey, Delorme and Gradin.
Director of Pro Scouting has been Brett Henning since 2017. He is Lorne Hennings son (former assistant GM, head of player personell with the Canucks and now scout with the Kraken).
Director of Player Personnel is not a position the Canucks have to my knowledge. Ryan Johnson is Senior Director of Player Development.
You are riff raffing like you have insight on what happens in the room but show your lack of insight by not even understanding the positions within the organization. Please stop spreading false information that others may read as fact if you yourself are not aware of things.
More on topic - I hope Clarky comes back as well.
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You know when I saw that wakeboarding picture I felt relieved. Wrist is coming a long well!
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I mean if you view things in a bigger perspective, staying the course for next season is the way to go.
- Remain patient to clear the bad deals coming off after next season without hurting the future in dead cap
- If getting rid of Benning, I'd rather see it happen midseason next year than before this years draft and FA (no long-term deals in FA, too short time for new management)
- Re-evaluate team/staff outside of a Covid season
- Young core moving further a long, better point to evaluate what supporting cast is needed
- Stabilize the team after a turbulent season
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22 minutes ago, tas said:
is buffalo bad because of ristolainen, or is ristolainen bad because of buffalo?
Both!
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2 hours ago, King Heffy said:
The vets were signed to avoid going full Edmonton and destroying prospects in roles they weren't able to handle. The overpayments were necessary due to the team being bad, in a market with high taxes. The success of the young players so early pulled the team back into contention quicker than expected, which made the contracts an issue.
1 hour ago, Brad Marchand said:The current team is not good enough at consistenly carrying the play, often relying far too much on their goaltending to bail them out. There are good enough core pieces to build around, I just have doubts about whether the current management team is the one that can make the next step with this group of players.
This is the stuff. I've always had a nudge about JB not being the GM in place when this team is truly competitive. However, he will get a lot of the credit for bringing in the core pieces and rightfully so. If the time is now (this off-season) or next off-season time will tell. It's almost unfair to clean house this off-season due to the oddities of this year.
Sometimes you have to take a step back to take two steps forward. We are getting another great prospect in this draft. This off-season however, if I were owner, I am not signing off on any long-term deals in preparation for another GM to step in with a plethora of young NHLers that need a supporting cast. Considering that outlook, I am not convinced the current management group is the right one for the job. The contract situations after next season makes us one of the most exciting teams to take over as a GM. Lot's of cap space with a very good young core with all the core positions filled. Combine that with hiring a president of hockey ops to work a long side the management team I can see a bright future for this organization.
We gotta be patient. Our time will come. I am 100% convinced.
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1 hour ago, Alflives said:
Jersey has two smallish, and not very good defensively, centres in Jack and Heischer. They would love Bo. We love Bo too, of course, but Bo for Jack (at the draft after we select Luke) would be tremendous.
Draft Luke
trade Bo for Jack.
Hischier is neither smallish or poor defensively. He's 6'1 and around 200lbs. Also very good defensively.
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I'm usually not the one to attach myself to "fire everyone" bandwagons but the way I see it, it's time for a new direction. JB has had 7 years. Time for someone else to kick the can. Wouldn't mind Greener coming back though. Not sure on the assistants.
A rare european time so I can actually watch it live. We look sluggish and disinterested and I'm not surprised. Let's look ahead to next year!
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1 hour ago, morrissex95 said:
What about Edvinsson?
I prefer other prospects over Edvinsson. Intriguing package but I think the gap between the potential and actual performance is too big to warrant a top 10 selection. I have Edvinsson at 15 due to the risk I see in him not reaching that potential and his poor decision making with the puck. There are too many flaws in his game and he's very raw.
Continued rankings:
11. Carson Lambos
12. Mason McTavish
13. Matthew Coronato
14. Stanislav Svozil
15. Simon Edvinsson
He reminds me a bit of Philip Broberg. Not necessarily playing wise but just the type of prospect. Wasn't high on Broberg in his draft year and I don't see him becoming an above average defender in the NHL. At this point I have the same issues with Edvinsson.
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A thing that people are missing on the topic is that they guy is a much better player playing at center.
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If we are picking top 5, I can't see us going wrong with any of the picks.
For reference here are my rankings:
1. Owen Power
2. Brandt Clarke
3. Matty Beniers
4. William Eklund
5. Luke Hughes
6. Jesper Wallstedt
7. Dylan Guenther
8. Kent Johnson
9. Chaz Lucius
10. Fabian Lysell
A little gut-feeling/mock:
Detroit picks Wallstedt wherever they are picking (if available). Stevie Y again looks like a genius in the future.
New Jersey should have high interest in Eklund with last years pick Holtz and him having incredible chemistry. Ignore their need for defensive depth.
Seattle pick a center not named Eklund. Kent Johnson is my prediction if Beniers is gone by the time they pick.
Columbus pick a forward.
Anaheim also pick a forward
Ottawa pick a defensemen
Owen Power will not be the first overall selection
Kinda silly doing this not knowing the draft order.
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Aviators. Easy choice. Get it done.
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I understand the frustration of some after a trade like this. I am with you on it. It's spurred into a different discussion and I mean, all we have to do is wait out these horrible contracts in the bottom six. Perhaps it would be wise at that point to let someone else take this team forwards.
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53 minutes ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said:
No problem.
It’s actually a really good system (although I’d agree with the Swedes, who think the compensation should be higher, especially for their “star” players).
But it really helps out some of the smaller teams in those European systems. The compensation gets split, so a small team that had a future NHLer when he was younger, and then let him move on to a bigger market and/or higher league (like SHL), will still get a cut of the NHL transfer fee. This money really helps out, and can mean new facilities and equipment to keep small teams going.
I just saw that the Swiss finally signed on, when the agreements were renewed in 2020, so the only major European system without an agreement now is Russia (MHL, VHL, KHL), but the rest of Europe has working transfer agreements.
EDIT: Also, I believe the Swedes were finally successful in getting the AHL age exemption removed from the most recent agreement (2020), something they’ve really pushed for in previous negotiations. So now, European players will need to be 20 years old to play in the AHL, just like their North American counterparts (college players are still exempt IIRC). This means that many Swedish prospects will stay in Sweden longer, since teenagers can no longer be sent to the AHL, so NHL teams will need to be sure draftees are NHL ready, or else they will need to leave them in Sweden until they are at least 20 years old.
That last paragraph was completely new to me. I really like that as a Swedish NHL fan. My bias is towards N.A to be honest but I think for the players themselves it's probably better to stay home that extra year. Also I support MoDo who happen to be one of the most prominent talent producers in Swedish hockey so I am always hopeful of our youngsters kicking around for a little longer to help out the team. Lately we are losing most of our talent to the SHL even before they move over to N.A. There are some voices that want to extend that "transfer ban" to within Sweden as well (players can't move clubs until they are 20 years old). We belong in the SHL so it's our own demise to blame.
We have two players who have already signed on with SHL teams for next season. William Wallinder (Detroit pick) and William Strömgren (2021 nhl draft prospect) have both signed with Rögle of the SHL according to a lot of sources.
The Canucks and MoDo have a lot of links and I guess that is one of the reasons I became a Canucks fan in the first place as a 9 year old. Markus Näslund, Henrik Sedin, Daniel Sedin, Alex Edler, and Samuel Påhlsson are the first to come to mind. Quite some prominent Canucks legends on that list!
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5 hours ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said:
Draftees from Sweden don’t need “out clauses.” The transfer agreement takes care of that. If he’s signed to an NHL ELC, the NHL contract overrides any Swedish pro contract. The Swedish Federation gets paid set compensation (the rate is negotiated in the transfer agreement), which gets split between the teams that developed Karlsson.
He’s a Euro pick, so four years draft rights, which, as you note, expire June 1, 2022 (he was a 2018 pick).
EDIT: “Indefinite” draft rights only happen when a player is drafted out of the system that doesn’t have an active transfer agreement (like Russian leagues, ie: MHL, VHL, KHL, and IIRC the Swiss leagues as well.)
I guess you learn something new every day. Thanks for clarifying!
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[Signing] Sharks sign Jonathan Dahlen
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He chose to play at home instead of the AHL. That is completely fine.
I am a little biased because "I know him". We have some connections. I can assure you he isn't entitled.