Jester13
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Righty... me likey.
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This team is one of the maxed-capped teams in the league, and using LTIR to boot.
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45 minutes ago, Odd. said:
If you have a chance at unloading contracts while dropping 8 spots as well as getting an extra 2nd round pick, you take that 100%.
This draft is deep throughout the first round we can then actually draft guys who are not
only BPA but fill an organizational need. Heidt, Danielson, Ritchie, Yager for centres, and Simashev, Willander, Strbak, for defenseman. Good chance we can walk away with 2 of these players with the 19th and 35th.
At 11, Barlow, Benson if he falls, Honzek, Wood, are all wingers who are BPA at 11. I mean these guys aren’t bad choices at all, but a potential trade to actually address and solve several issues all with 1 trade, you take that chance anyday of the week.
Draft Strbak with the 19th assuming Willander is taken, and then take one of the plethora of centres that are available at 35th.
Simashev, Strbak, Willander are defenseman this team should be all over for. Big, physical, smooth skating two way defenseman. I personally think trading down is HIGHLY likely considering what these defenseman can potentially become for us 2-3 years from now. And the potential to move cap is there trading down.
It really depends on the contract we're unloading. Brock and Myers don't have a lot of term left, so I'd say it's not worth it to involve one of them. Garland is a really good player with more value than many believe, so also no to him. OEL... I'd do it because his contract is so inefficient and for many years more.
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17 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said:
It's amazing how people on CDC are calling Hronek a PP specialist, the guy is actually a pretty good defender and was a regular penalty killer with Detroit. Even the beat writer for Detroit said this, he said Hronek broke out this year and was playing like a top pairing Dman.
I think some people on CDC are gonna be shocked when they actually see Hronek play...
Hopefully we don't get too shocked when we see his asking price after he plays great for us.
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16 minutes ago, MattWN. said:
Rathbone is so far down the depth chart now, I don't think you need to worry about seeing him.
The fact he barely played last year with the depleted lineup we had speaks volumes about his future here.
I'd say don't count Boner out just yet. He only turns 24 tomorrow, and look at Breezer (26 in July) and Wolanin (28) only now getting their shots with the big club.
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Just now, Alflives said:
would Yahweh listen to any prayers about OEL not coming back?
Nohweh.
OEL is going to have a big bounce-back season, same with Brock.
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Garland has the most value out of guys we'd be willing to move to clear cap. Trade him for any pick possible. Then offload Myers asap. Then wait out the rest of our inefficient contracts, which at that point won't be many.
Oh, and pray to Yahweh that Poolman and Pearson are never coming back.
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12 minutes ago, aGENT said:
I think it's ridiculous that people don't think we could at least "Bjorkstrand" him somewhere. Like sure, maybe we might only get a couple mid round picks for him, but it's not like he's going to cost us multiple 1sts to dump either. Particularly if we also bring back some cap (depth D, depth C?) in exchange.
Ayyup.
To dump cap, he has the most value of the guys we're willing to part. His can take his place next year. Bjorkstrand-lite deal will get done.
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1 hour ago, Provost said:
Don't do either. Just let it ride out for the remainder of the contract at this point or see if you can get rid of him in the last year by retaining salary once there isn't a lot of term left if he isn't on LTIR or something.
Price is prohibitively high at the moment. He was better than expected two seasons ago and worse than expected last season... who knows if he bounces back to be better next year if he has an actual competent partner. He isn't going to be worth his salary, but he has a good chance of being worth more than the price tag of moving him.100% with you. I think OEL and Brock are both primed for huge bounce-back seasons, which is also why Garland is being shopped. Beau as well might get moved, but I think they like his speed and game and potential more. Plus, I also think Garland has more value than many believe. Regardless, buying out OEL or actually including our first to move him is last choice on the moves menu.
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4 hours ago, stawns said:
That's ridiculous
My point is that they're both ridiculous, but buying him out and being stuck with a cap hit for 8 years is worse.
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2 hours ago, Alflives said:
Benning is our worst GM ever, especially considering he followed our most successful- Gillis. Two Presidents’ trophies, a Cup Final, and voted by his peers as the best GM.
Benning is like Obama: he inherited a mess from the previous guy who didn't do much except enter one war. He did okay in rebuilding the mess he was given but ran out of time, everyone panicked, and then he turned into Trump. Now we're left with a bald Biden and waiting to see what good will come of things.
Happy Frieday!
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Why are you so pissy, Leon?
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8 hours ago, mll said:
He also makes 5M for another 3 years. Vancouver doesn't have any leverage. Every team knows that they want to adjust their team and can see that they have absolutely no cap space - opportunity for those teams to make a lopsided deal.
Teams with cap space are going to have their choice of players. Chicago still in a rebuild and really don't have to make a deal with Vancouver. Vegas had to pay to move Pacioretty and there was quite a bit of interest there. Not sure there will be all that much interest for an undersized winger who is not proven in the post-season to show that his smaller stature won't be a limitation.
Not sure teams are going to value the production either. Putting up points in a perceived loose system is not the same as playing the right way where there is accent on defence. Garbage time production is also not the same as in the heart of the season as pointed out by Benning but others have also made similar comment including Trotz just recently.
Fair enough, but my comment about Garland was implying that it won't cost as much as the poster thinks it will to move him. Teams aren't that interested this time of year to make a deal like this, but the time will come. I don't think we'll have to add at all to move Garland. We likely won't get a 2nd for him, but I don't see Garland as negative value as some think.
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3 hours ago, mll said:
Last year it cost a 2nd round pick to dump Dickinson on Chicago. Garland could well be more expensive to move.
It's really Vancouver that has to find a way to entice Chicago to make a cap clearing deal with them. The Canucks are cap strapped and Chicago holds all the cards. They are just so many teams that are looking to clear cap space and they can make a deal with any team or go to free agency to build their roster. It's likely going to be expensive to clear cap and deals might end up being pretty lopsided in disfavour of teams looking to clear cap.
Garland is a 50pt 3rd-line player whose points mostly come 5v5.
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Trade Garland to Chicago instead for a 2nd or 3rd or 4th...
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I'd rather lose this year's 1st as a sweetener to move OEL than buying him out. Take the loss, fill his spot with Breezer/Hirose/Rathbone/someone else, and use his cap space wisely moving forward to fill other holes, such as the right side and/or 3C.
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11 hours ago, BCNeil said:
Can't we just trade the 11 for the 1? If we sweeten the pot with Myers, Garland and whoever else?
I haven't checked out the proposal section yet
Myers, Garland, and a 1st for Bedard.
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17 minutes ago, kenhodgejr said:
Could there be a deal with Vancouver and Montreal to get their second 1st in the draft at 17? Perhaps sending Garland or Boeser + our 3rd
There might be a way to make a deal work, but maybe they'd want Beauvillier instead? (French connection)
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59 minutes ago, I.Am.Ironman said:
Depending on where you are I'm not sure there will be a 'crash' but maybe another dip. If BoC raises rates again to match the US Fed then maybe we see another dip later in the year. There is a particular luxury condo project being built that I'm following, I get emails pretty frequently about price incentives. So they obviously haven't pre sold the whole building which is a little bit encouraging I guess. Mind you, they have over priced the units imo.
Which project?
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#PullALindros
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17 hours ago, Bob.Loblaw said:
You say that, but who do you think is the reputation vote?
Past award winners Fox and Makar. Both are amazing, but I don't see how a guy who played 60 games (as good as he is) should be up there when other guys like Hughes, JM, Hamilton, etc had such amazing seasons yet all get snubbed.
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These awards are sure starting to seem like reputation awards, these days.
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Yeah, dude. Could be an absolute steal. He's got an NHL dman frame to him already as well and the mindset to go with it.
Here's the thing: you watched eight games of him compared to the Nucks scouting department who watched and scouted him closely all year. They see his highlights as well and see he has all the tools to be something special beside Hughes one day, and that he's only 18yo.