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12 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said:
Neat. Lets blow off the scientific gains made by epidemiology and virology and go with cool/scary stuff that raises "questions"
Neat. Let's respond to legitimate inquiry and valid questions and go with non-sequitur statements and straw-man arguments
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We shouldn't arbitrarily accept the "official" explanation that's being pushed and propagated by all these modern Orwellian ministries of "truth". Neither should we arbitrarily reject the official story....
For inquiring minds....
https://www.csis.org/analysis/novel-coronavirus-outbreak
https://www.globalresearch.ca/chinas-new-coronavirus-an-examination-of-the-facts/5701662
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jan/26/coronavirus-link-china-biowarfare-program-possible/
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/did-china-steal-coronavirus-canada-and-weaponize-it
https://top-news.online/chinas-coronavirus-epidemic-could-be-a-biological-weapons-leak/
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/man-behind-global-coronavirus-pandemic
http://greatgameindia.com/coronavirus-bioweapon/
Doubt nothing, question everything!
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12 hours ago, Mathew Barzal said:
Forget Eriksson, give them Myers.
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6 hours ago, canuckster19 said:
I’ve said before on this forum that I’m a loyalist to the crown.
Would Canada be more open to a head of state that actually live in Canada? Or does our future lie in being a republic? Considering our history and the pure ceremonial nature of presidents in other countries that have prime-ministers, I would think this is a viable option.
I would also be inclined to say that their first born child in Canada would be the rightful heir, not “King Archie”.
Believe me, I realize many of you will think this is absolutely silly, no need to point it out.
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9 hours ago, Warhippy said:
Thems a lot of words for you to simply dsay
Fake news
2nd Amendmnet
I don't believe it
Trump 2020
There is nothing misleading here. Far right/Alt right/Neo Nazi members were arrested for literally threatening and planning an attack against peaceful protestors. Facts taken out of context are bad, but literally creating a false narrative to ignore the real danger is ignorance at its highest.
As for "fine piece of journalism" none of it is linked to Trump at all, until he tweeted that the Dems were coming after their guns and 2nd amendment rights...
Your comments actually proves my point that every word said or written must understood in the context in which they're used. That you boil down my points into 4 labels/talking points actually says more about your ideology and worldview than mine.
"Fake news" can be a completely made up story, a story with facts taken out of context, or stories that omit certain facts. If we're going to be able to tell the difference, a two-word label isn't going to help us. Facts in context I believe, facts out of context I reject.
As for Trump2020....I wouldn't vote for Trump - your point is moot.
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9 hours ago, Warhippy said:
Fine people in fact. On both sides
Absolutely agree with you there. They're wonderful people.
As for Trump's comment....context reveals motives. In this case, Trump was praising the African American gentleman because of his actions against some idiots dressed up in KKK outfits at one of Trump's rallies. These idiots were there, not in support of Trump but to create a disturbance that was sure to be picked up by the MSM and then used to push the false narrative that Trump and his supporters are racist.
Trump was trying to draw attention to the fact that many in the African American community are some of his most loyal supporters. A fact the MSM and their useful idiots don't care to highlight as it doesn't fit their narrative. The context necessitated a positive racial identification of this "wonderful" African American.
Trump's comments aren't an example of his innate racial bigotry - its a nothing burger!
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Dell slashes Horvat across the ribs right in front of a Zebra.....no call???
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1 hour ago, Jimmy McGill said:
"neo-Nazi hate group" seems redundant.
I'm glad he found more friends down south and got arrested there, but this is a very scary trend in Canada. CSIS has far right groups as our biggest terror threat in Canada, and its growing. An interesting tidbit for those who like to focus on Muslims, just fyi.
I have some good friends who are Christians, Muslims, Sikh and Hindus. Wonderful people. Although some worldviews are more susceptible to violence and hate, there's lunatics and terrorists in every religion that believe violence, hate and subjugation of unbelievers is the way of godliness.
Unfortunately for those of us in the western world, the separation of the secular vs sacred has bred ignorance of the underlying psychology and philosophy of many worldviews. Knowledge of exoteric beliefs does not necessitate an understanding of the esoteric. Such ignorance has put us at a disadvantage and left us vulnerable to be manipulated by the government, MSM and other power structures of society.
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11 hours ago, Warhippy said:
And of course. Without batting an eye, the US president gives us a gem that's bound to age well.
What part of this "fine" piece of journalism links Trump to these Nazi wackos?
Overall, the article sets up yet another false equivalency by the MSM to push their agenda and brainwash the unsuspecting and naive. It's another fine example of the processes of the Hegelian Dialectic that stokes the fires of conflict and chaos in order to establish a new "order."
The author fails to mention the fact that the actions and worldview of these parasitical lunatics are in direct odds with the worldview and actions of the peace abiding pro-gun organizations and activists that are exercising their constitutional right to march. Failing to highlight this important fact creates a false equivalency in the minds of readers and a inaccurate and misleading link between Neo-Nazi terrorists and the law-abiding gun-rights activists.
Facts taken out of context become the greatest of lies and deception. Failure to draw these critically important distinctions is not only intellectually dishonest, but is also the epitome of ignorance.
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Keller
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3 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said:
You stated an error of commission, not a lie of commission. Errors of commission or omission are most commonly referred to in accounting and bookkeeping. I get that you want to somehow justify being gullible enough to trust an outlet as farcical and fallible as the gateway pundit.
It's understandable that you're looking for technicalities that will enable you to climb out of the illogical hole you dug, but really??? Gotta be intellectually honest to have a constructive conversation my friend.
A wise man once said never argue ignorance with an ignorant person as they'll only beat you down with experience. I'll take his advice and leave you to your ignorance.
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1 minute ago, PhillipBlunt said:
Error of commission: These types of errors occur due to the negligence of book-keeper, clerk or accountant. As errors of commission are often caused due to the mistake committed by the clerk, they are also called as clerical errors.
Most MSM outlets aren't clerical or bookkeeping companies, but keep on using these terms that barely relate to the subject matter.
Ever hear of a lie of omission vs commission? I guess not. Better stick to commenting on hockey until you get your logic skills under control....
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/lying-definition/
https://www.sas.upenn.edu/~baron/papers.htm/oc.html
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35 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said:
And all of those media outlets have made false claims as well.
EVERY news outlet, including every MSM outlet have made "false claims" before. But one has to determine whether such false claims are the result of an error of omission or error of commission. Just like your comment, for now I trust your comment was an error of commission, rather than omission.
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3 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said:
"We report the truth - and leave the Russia-Collusion fairytale to the Conspiracy Media".
This publication was sued for falsely implicating an innocent person in the 2017 Las Vegas shooting, and falsely identified a Michigan man as the driver of the vehicle that killed the woman during the Charlottesville riots.
Great source.
Yet another genetic fallacy?
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5 hours ago, Duodenum said:
lol what a terrible source.
That there my friend is a genetic fallacy....rejecting the source because you don't like the ideological viewpoint/what they say. That being as ti may, here's some from the center/left all saying the same thing.....
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-51055219
https://www.newsweek.com/iranians-shot-down-ukraine-flight-mistake-sources-1481313
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7 hours ago, ItsAllOursBoys said:
True, could be a coincidental accident.....or a tragic miscalculation that can be conveniently excused with plausible deniability.
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2 hours ago, DefCon1 said:
It would be pointless to target a plane whether American or Iranian when they wanted no casualties. I mean firing 17 missiles into Iraq and all the victims end up being Iranian? with no American or Iraqi casualties? That would cause a big stir if they find out it was an iranian missile hitting a passenger plane full of Iranians. Who knows what happened, but you also cant link the missile directly with the plane going down just because of the time frame unless there is undeniable evidence that the missile hit the plane.
True, could be a coincidental accident.....or a tragic miscalculation that can be conveniently excused with plausible deniability.
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8 hours ago, Tortorella's Rant said:
One hell of a coincidence. But they would've blown up their own people too.
yeah....or shoot them!
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14 hours ago, *Buzzsaw* said:
You are just showing how ignorant you are by suggesting a link between Sunnis and Shias.
All the Islamic terrorists groups you show in the map of US who have actually done anything are SUNNI muslim... Iran is Shia. Sunnis hate Shias... in Afghanistan the Sunni Taliban/ISIS regularly massacre Shias.
Conflating Sunni Terrorists with Shias is just stupid... they have zero connection. There have been no overt terrorist acts in the US linked to Shias.
Sunni Muslims originate from Saudi Arabia, not Iran.
Sunnis are Al Quaeda/ISIS/Taliban/etc... the ones who attack the US in 911 and all over Europe. That fundamentalist Sunni group originates in Saudi Arabia.
Shias are Hezbollah/Iran. They are fighting Al Quaeda/ISIS/Taliban. They are also fighting Israel... for good reason, Israel regularly invades/bombs Lebanon where Hezbollah is based and where Shias are the largest ethnic group. Iran supports Syrian government because of the Alawite Shia population there who were being massacred by ISIS Syrians. Yeah, the Syrian government is a nasty bunch, but so are the Rebels which are mostly either ISIS or Al Quaeda.
You're showing how ignorant you are of the topic at hand by employing a red-herring argument to misrepresent my post. The clear intent of my post was to show the length of terrorist arm of Iran and the war they conduct through their proxies like Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah etc (as can be seen on the attached maps). My post was not in any way conflating Shias with Sunni's or suggesting that ALL Islamic terrorist groups are affiliated or associated with Iran.
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On 1/4/2020 at 1:04 PM, Warhippy said:
Your reading comprehension isn't the greatest is it
How many nations has Iran invaded? How many sovereign borders has Iran crossed in aggression. For every single incident you posted, some are in house issues inside Iran, most are issues caused by guerrilla factions from various nations outside of Iran but including Iranians. Why don't you list the same timeline of offences caused by the US or Israel.
Because by your list, there are ZERO borders crossed by Iran, there are ZERO nations attacked by Iran. When you ask someone to delve deep and do homework, ensure you're talking to someone who hasn't.
Perhaps you had a little trouble with reading, comprehension and logic as well? With all due respect, I'd suggest you go back and carefully reread my post, resisting the urge to respond until you understand the points I'm making and until you brush up on your understanding of modern warfare tactics employed by Islamic Republic of Iran and other Radical Jihadists.
When was the last time the US or Israel blew up/attacked an Iranian place of worship? or an Iranian embassy? Iranian shopping mall? Iranian community center?
The kindergarten map you presented (and subsequent argument about the US presence) is really part of a larger straw-man argument based in ignorance and intellectual dishonesty. What you conveniently fail to mention is that most of those locations exist at the request and/or permission of the individual sovereign states. They exist mainly to deter Iranian/Radical Jihadi aggression.
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10 hours ago, Canorth said:
Well said... for someone who clearly doesn’t understand the terms “Facts” or “Context”
making such a comment without evidence is as smart as throwing a grenade into a crowd of people then running.
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5 hours ago, Red Light Racicot said:
America has always been the instigator. The 1953 coup in order to turn Iran into a puppet state is the reason relations between the two countries have been terrible for such a long time.
This idea that America is the protagonist of the world is ridiculous and frankly, delusional.
Nice opinion piece
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13 hours ago, Warhippy said:Skipping your posted statements which are literally just tough talking rhetoric and do not have the counter posted US and Israeli statements of the exact same type,
I just want to ask can you list for me the nations Iran has invaded. As well as how many attacks Iran has committed against Israel that are in fact proven to be caused by Iranians.
Then counter that with attacks against Iran by the US and Israel.
Understand with a few simple searches I can find the exact same statements made by the US and Israeli brass, even if they are churched up a bit for language/content
I REALLY want you to delve deep for me here. because your statements don't hold up, like at all. Is Iran running its mouth? yes. But I need you to actually prove that statement for me. Mostly because it will take you literal days to find nothing but also because I know for a damned fact you won't because you know you can't
I take it you didn't do well in school? Seeing that you ask other to do your homework for you....
With all due respect to your question, its shows an inherent misunderstanding of basic military strategy and planning.
Sun Tzu said "Oh divine are to subtlety and secrecy! Through you we learn to be invisible, through you inaudible and hence, we can hold the enemy's fate in our hands". In the art of war, they utilize 5th column tactics. Instead of attacking their enemy from the North, South, East or West, their enter land in stealth or as a friend and once inside, begin their seditious work. These are the type of tactics the Iranians are using.
It's your opinion that the statements I posted were "tough talking rhetoric" and I can respect that. You're entitled to your own opinions, but your not entitled to your own facts. Those are their statements and their actions over the last 39 years show their "rhetoric" has morphed into a sophisticated network of proxy wars and guerilla warfare.
There are no US/Israel statements that match the murderous intent as the Islamic Republic of Iran. Iran knows they would never win a direct confrontation with Israel or the US so they resort to attacking western targets through their proxies - Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, Hamas and other Shi'ite Militia groups.
The following are just a few instances of how Iran fights their wars against Israel their neighbors and the world. All instances have objective, verifiable evidence (You'll have to look this up on your own).
1979 - Iranian students backed by Khomeini took 52 America hostages for 444 days when they overthrew the US embassy in Tehran
1981 - Six Arab countries - Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar and the UAE form the GCC to oppose Iranian aggression
1981 - Iran sponsored the Islamic Front for the Liberation of Bahrain in their failed coup attempt to take over the country of Bahrain
1983 - The terrorist group Hezbollah attacked the US embassy in Beirut, killing 17 US Soldiers.1983 - Hezbollah attacks the US Marine barracks in Beirut - killed 241 Americans
1984 - Hezbollah truck bomb attack at the US Embassy in Lebanon - killed 23 people
1992 - Hezbollah bombed the Israeli embassy in Argentina - killed 29 people
1994 - Hezbollah bombed a Jewish community center in Argentina - killed 96 people
1994 - Argentina indicted several members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard of terrorism against a Jewish target in Buenos Aires which killed 85 people
1998 - Iran found guilty in US courts of providing direct material and financial support for the US embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania
2001 - Iran allows Al-Qaeda planners of 9/11 safe passage through Iran to Afghanistan where they received their guerilla warfare training. A US court ordered Iran to pay 6 Billion to the families of 9/11 victims
2011 - Iranian Plot is foiled in Washington D.C that attempted to assassinate the Saudi ambassador to the US at a local restaurant
2011 - Two Iranian intelligence officers defect to the west, implicating Iran with withholding foreknowledge of the 9/11 attacks
2012 - Members of Soleimani's IRGC were arrested in Nigeria for plotting to attack/blow up American/English tourist destinations
2012 - Hezbollah kills five Israeli's and a Bulgarian bus driver in a suicide bombing in Burgas Bulgaria
2012 - Kenyan police arrest two Iranians for shipping 100 kilo's of explosives into Kenya for terrorist attacks against American, Israeli and other western targets
2012 - Indian police state that the Iranian Revolutionary Guards were responsible for the bomb explosion that injured and Israeli diplomat
2013 - Hezbollah sends thousands of soldiers to Syria to fight for the Assad regime
2017 - Two members of Hezbollah (financed and supported by Iran) were arrested in NYC while conducting surveillance on US Military and police departments.
2018 - Two Iranian agents arrested in NYC for planning terrorist attacks against Jewish targets in Chicago
2018 - Albania expels the Iranian ambassador for "supporting terrorism"
2018 - France freezes Iranian funds for attempted bomb attack at a Paris rally
Wherever you find Hezbollah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad and various other Shi'ite militias, (Israel, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Bahrain, Argentina, Kenya, Tanzania, Bulgaria, India, Albania, France, US) you find the invading long armed tentacles of the Islamic Republic of Iran.So, time to "delve deep" and do some homework reading on your own...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_and_state-sponsored_terrorism#Albaniahttps://securitystudies.org/qassem-soleimani-an-appreciation-of-a-foe/
https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Iran-Report.pdf
https://www.state.gov/countering-irans-global-terrorism/
https://www.unitedagainstnucleariran.com/terrorism
https://www.heritage.org/military-strength/assessing-threats-us-vital-interests/iran
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Typo...my comment should have read: " Neat. Let's NOT respond to legitimate inquiry and valid questions and go with non-sequitur statements and straw-man arguments.
Legit inquiry? Yes! If we've learnt anything by recent historical events (ie: 9/11, the subsequent war on terror, etc..), it's that it's very dangerous to sacrifice our critical faculties to the whims and opinions of the "official" fact checkers, the ruling political influencers of society or the court of popular opinion.
Those who question the official explanations for the coronavirus outbreak aren't rejecting the science of epidemiology or virology. That the virus CAN be found in and/or transmitted by both domesticated and wild animals doesn't necessitate that it is the ONLY way that humans can get the virus. It's documented fact that the Winnipeg level-4 NML lab has for some time been growing certain strains of the coronavirus for scientific research. Such research has been used to develop bio-weapons programs.
This isn't to say that this specific outbreak is the result of nefarious actions, but such an scenario does exist in the realm of possibility. Attempting to refute this possibility with nothing but a label of "conspiracy theory" might appease the simple minds of the ignorant sheeple, but it's of little value when attempting to uncover or explain the truth.
Doubt nothing, question everything!