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Been on team tank since we got swept by the Sharks in '13 and every year since. Now isn't the time to do it. We're at the point where any potential benefit we get from the draft is offset by the damage it'll do to the core and not extending Petey.
Worst part is year 2 and 3 where OEL gives us that 4.7M dead cap. Gotta hope one of the prospects step up.
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There exists a universe out there where we have both.
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Hope he and Petey stay here for a long time
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55 minutes ago, Dr. Crossbar said:
Miller, Miller ... the "C" is such a thriller ... hot damn ... he is the son of ...
Phyllis Diller
I'm surprised you didn't go with Myyy ShaHronek
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Its smart in the sense that if you make Petey the captain, he's going to be pestered non stop about his contract situation in the media scrums.
Heard a lot of good things about Hughe's leadership in the locker room, and Petey probably prefers not having that distraction to focus on the season.
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10 hours ago, Smashian Kassian said:
Sandin-Pellikka & a 2nd for Hronek isn't a bad trade at all imo.
Its hard to judge given we haven't seen Hronek play but his age fits & he's a very good player. I'm not 100% certain but I think it'll turn out well & be a good trade.
The trade is Oliver Moore + 2nd for me. Walk out of the draft with a future 2C.
Of course, if we can keep Petey with a playoff berth this is a good outcome.
We just need to rebuild traditionally after the Petey era. It's sickening seeing the Shithawks draft Bedard and Moore in rd. 1
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Leafs are happy they keep their guy.
Rest of the NHL is happy Leafs are again hamstringing themselves cap wise in constructing an actual playoff team.
Win. Win.
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The PK is completely rebuilt in the offseason at a bargain (cole, soucy, blueger, suter). I'm cautiously optimistic, we just have to make it through November with an even record or better. Franchise is literally playing to keep petey at this point haha.
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Demko stays healthy for the season (and playoffs)
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2 hours ago, Alflives said:
Seattle will be back to being awful next season. They are a sub 80 point team. Krappen will be Kraperolla.
Soucy was the glue holding it all together
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16 hours ago, Drive-By Body Pierce said:What do the Canucks really have in Filip Hronek?
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Someone at Canucks army is creaming themselves right now. They've been shouting about this player for a while.
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22 hours ago, AnthonyG said:
And going off IF’s if COVID a global pandemic didnt happen, the cap would have risen 4-8mil like it was announced prior to acquiring Toffoli. No one would have been lost. To blame Benning for LEs cap hit, when the true reality is an upcoming cap increase was halted and flattened for multiple years
Mentioned it a bunch of times, but it bears repeating, 30-31 (kraken) other GMs experienced the pandemic, and 16 of them made playoffs, and cup contenders were put together on tighter cap situations than Benning. No excuse here. The expansion drafts are even less of an excuse, Benning lost less during those drafts than other teams that had to lose core players. You can't blame the circumstances considering everyone else experienced it and he navigated them as poorly as one could.
The only IF i would venture is that had Benning had that extra cap space, he would have squandered it, he's shown that he doesn't prioritize fixing his internal budget over pursuing a player that catches his eye.
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And if you have guys on ELCs playing like like super stars it doesnt matter. The money still works. Give Petey LEs 6mil right out of the gates and give Peteys ELC to LE.
Every single team has guys playing above their contract AND below their contract, the more guys playing below their value, the more it hurts. One guy playing below, shouldnt sink a team. We had 1 guy playing below and that was largely due to utilization. 60% dzone starts and PK/shutdown duties… he did what they asked them to do and he did a very good job of shutting down guys and killing penalties. It wasnt what he was brought in for, but that is how they chose to use him very soon after acquiring him.The theory is correct, if we're talking about the hey day of this, this team had arguably five guys playing below their contracts (LE, Sutter, Beagle, Roussel, Myers) . That's too much of an anchor even for Hughes and Petey on their ELCs.
Bolded: was that Sutter or Beagle?
QuoteMyers has led this team in all but 2 seasons for defensive point shares
When we dissect this, it's not that impressive.
Myers has been with us 4 seasons. All but 2 of his seasons is 50% of his time here.
And, having a huge share of a miniscule pie isn't that impressive. If I reword your technically correct phrase, we can say Myers was a 21 pt defenseman for two of his four years here on a 6M contract.
Is that a market value 6 Mil defenseman? Is the Canucks production from the back end considered league average where a phrase like 'having the highest point shares' has any meaningful weight? I'd say no.
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@Alflives your time to shine
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15 minutes ago, AnthonyG said:
You act as if Eriksson held us back from being a contender in the twilight of the 2011 cores careers. Lol. The Eriksson signing cost us 0 assets and had zero impact on holding us back from winning a cup. Lol our new core was Horvat, Virtanen and Boeser at that point as the twins retired. Lol.
Hell even Myers signed to play on a 23rd overall team. We actually went up in the standings the following season. Had COVID not ruined the cap by preventing a 4-8mil increase, we would have kept Tanev, Markstrom and Toffili and been a much better team the following seasons.
Myers has led our team in defensive point shares in all but 2 seasons.
If Eriksson wasn't here, the 2020 offseason where a bunch of assets walked away for nothing doesn't happen.
When you have a guy playing bottom six minutes being payed like a Top line guy, it's going to cost you. It definitely has a direct impact in this team not being a playoff team, and the OEL deal is a legacy of that Eriksson signing.Cap space is an asset.
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I love brock but this is our annual 'This could be Boeser's best year yet' article of the off season.
Hope we see it this year!
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1 hour ago, NUCKER67 said:
I'd rather the Canucks not be the joke of the league.
Boy do I have some bad news for you
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On 7/8/2023 at 5:52 PM, Toews said:
It always amazes me when people say they don't enjoy the media coverage but then plug their links/videos and essentially drive traffic to their websites or Youtube channels. In this day and age the best thing you can do about irresponsible journalism is to ignore it completely. If you post about these people, you discuss their opinions, you are essentially driving engagement and these folks live of this stuff. In the age we live now, the best way to drive traffic is by being as controversial and provocative as possible. Sekeres and Drance probably smile at the number of posts on here complaining about their conduct. If you pop their names into search on CDC you would probably get far more hits than someone who is trying to make a living by the more traditional route like Imac and Sat.
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Will be cheering for him to stick with the main club this year. Good deal.
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15 hours ago, MaxVerstappen33 said:
I agree with the post. But this is what Canucks fans specialize in. They managed to convince the whole league that Jim Benning is the worse GM in history. When he wasn't even the worst in his tenure. That was Peter Chiarelli.
Canucks fans always think their problems are worse than everyone else's are. Every team is built on compromises.
Chiarelli was definitely worse than Benning.
But there's 32 GMs in the league so that still puts Benning in the 10th percentile of GMs.
I would say there was really one other team that faced our unique situation of having a 28th ranked prospect pool while finishing in the bottom part of the standings bc of a failed retool on the fly and that's probably Philly.
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29 minutes ago, aGENT said:
Actually having a solid, defensive partner to cover for him (likely one of Irwin/Wolanin/Hirose), that allow him to play to his strengths, AND behind Hughes-Cole and Soucy-Hronek, likely against lesser competition, AND with actual systems in place, puck support from F's, better defensive F's added, and coaching from Gonchar Foote....I'll not be remotely shocked if he looks great this season.
This plus minutes management. At this stage of his career he's best playing ~15min.
Doesn't need to look great. I'd be happy if he's one of those Dmen I just don't notice each game.
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On 6/21/2023 at 3:56 PM, kilgore said:
OEL has it made. 20 mill in cold cash, on top of whatever he has earned so far, and still able to re-sign on a new team and make more. His agent on Dali and Donny was saying at least 10 teams have called him about his client. They haven't called anyone themselves.
I still think it was a short sighted decision not to at least have him play more sheltered minutes for one more season before a buyout. We'd have even more cap (per season) left to play with, and two less years to pay him to steal 2.1 m. cap money away. The next couple of seasons after this next one are way more crucial to have cap than this one. But the Aquilini quick fix strategy goes on. It might work, if the plan is to squeek us into the playoffs in the next few years, a temporary bump, but I just don't see the sustainability plan.
How many past cup winners won with inefficient dead cap on the books? That 2-4.7 million in future cap is quite the cap on our ceiling. Means the management group will have to operate close to 100% efficiency on every contract to make it far.
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31 minutes ago, ABNuck said:
Not feeling much love in here for Willander. In my opinion this was a home run, not a grand slam but a home run. We absolutely had to address the RHD situation. Centres, wingers and backup goalies can be plucked from F/A and can typically be had in trades MUCH easier than can a top 4 RHD. Of course I wanted Rhino, but Willander is the 2nd best RHD in this draft and overall the 4th best in the past 2 drafts (behind Nemec and Jiricek from last year). If we weren't in the right draft position, and without spending additional capital to move up to acquire the pick for one of those 3, then this is absolutely the best case scenario. Any comparisons to the swing and miss with Juolevi are redundant...2 completely different personalities. Willander is a serious competitor and completely committed to being a top4 RHD in the NHL, no distractions. This was 100% the correct pick for our organization.
At this point with our prospect pool I'm willing to settle for a single haha
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It was either Benson or Wallinder for me with simashev gone. Happy with the pick
Favourite CDC Memory
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Posting Memes after the two Bruins cup losses in the last decade.
The endless debates with the posters on this board on the rebuild/retool Benning era, some of them got pretty heated but it all came from a place of wanting this team to be better and having a Cup at the end of the day.
Thank you all for the conversations and CDC as a whole for the memories!