nitronuts Posted April 15, 2009 Author Share Posted April 15, 2009 Would it be easier to cut and cover and/or bore under 8th instead? I'm just wondering how the hospitals and medical buildings would be impacted if they choose to do it under 10th? Light rail right on Broadway is such a stupid idea! It is already so busy with two lanes open for cars and then you have one lane for parking. I doubt that the businesses would be happy if they took away the parking spaces in front of their stores to put in their much beloved ground level light rail. 8th is too far from Broadway; the line needs to be close to Broadway as the station entrance needs to be located on that street. I recall there being some complaints of vibrations at Toronto General when they were tunnel boring a subway some years ago, I'm not sure how the vibrations would be managed here...perhaps, dig deeper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuGaRzGiRL Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 8th is too far from Broadway; the line needs to be close to Broadway as the station entrance needs to be located on that street. I recall there being some complaints of vibrations at Toronto General when they were tunnel boring a subway some years ago, I'm not sure how the vibrations would be managed here...perhaps, dig deeper? Couldn't they just make more escalators or something to make the entrances open up onto Broadway if they use 8th? But even if they use tunnel boring, wouldn't they have to relocate some sewer pipes and whatnot? So they'll have to cut and cover anyways and wouldn't that be a hassle for the emergency vehicles? And what about all those existing tunnels underneath the hospitals that connect some of the buildings together? Sorry for all the questions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitronuts Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 Couldn't they just make more escalators or something to make the entrances open up onto Broadway if they use 8th? But even if they use tunnel boring, wouldn't they have to relocate some sewer pipes and whatnot? So they'll have to cut and cover anyways and wouldn't that be a hassle for the emergency vehicles? And what about all those existing tunnels underneath the hospitals that connect some of the buildings together? Sorry for all the questions! The problem with 8th is that it's on the side of a hill, it would make station construction more difficult and a bit more expensive...as well, with the stations on 8th the station platforms will have to be quite a bit deeper and that's a rather unattractive option. It could be done, but at a significantly greater cost. Tunnel boring wouldn't require the relocation of utilities and sewer pipes, cut and cover would. Tunnel boring usually occurs at least about 40-feet below ground, well below utilities, sewage infrastructure, pipes, etc. It wouldn't matter though as there isn't any of this under 10th Avenue, only Broadway. For the Canada Line in downtown, it bored right under the Vancouver City Centre Mall passage and it also bored right above Granville Station. Avoiding passages can be done, and I would imagine they'd bore under any hospital passages given that those passages couldn't be that deep underground. I think the impacts on hospital operations will be very minor, assuming they go for 10th tunnel boring. The only real problem might be station construction, which would most likely require a open station cut and cover pit. And there's a station planned for the hospital precinct/Oak Street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitronuts Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 They will be testing the Canada Line tunnel's emergency ventilation system tomorrow evening. If you see smoke rising from the underground station entrances, do not be alarmed and do not call 9/11 as that is simulated smoke for testing purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbo Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 I heard a crazy story about a train getting hijacked today, anyone hear anything about that?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trek Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 I heard a crazy story about a train getting hijacked today, anyone hear anything about that?? how can u hijack a computer controlled skytrain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-SN- Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 hax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbo Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 how can u hijack a computer controlled skytrain? they can be manually controlled Hey I'm just saying what I heard from someone, wondering if it was true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckyHermit Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 I heard a crazy story about a train getting hijacked today, anyone hear anything about that?? Just another vehicle theft in Surrey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buggernut Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 how can u hijack a computer controlled skytrain? They do have manual override. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trek Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 They do have manual override. yes i know, but wouldn't an alarm or something sound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbo Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 really though no one else heard about this at all? weird........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitronuts Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 I don't believe it's that easy, the control centre at Edmonds needs to enable that train to drive in manual or assisted-manual (still in automatic but can be overriden by manual). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitronuts Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 Broadway businesses held a public meeting on the rapid transit extension to UBC last night. The whole thing was spear headed by UBC Professor Patrick Condon, who thinks it's ALRIGHT to have a tram that takes 15 to 20 minutes longer compared to SkyTrain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverpig Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Broadway businesses held a public meeting on the rapid transit extension to UBC last night. The whole thing was spear headed by UBC Professor Patrick Condon, who thinks it's ALRIGHT to have a tram that takes 15 to 20 minutes longer compared to SkyTrain. I wonder how he gets to campus... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naslund Jr. Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 I wonder how he gets to campus... He's an architect specializing in sustainable urban design. He probably rolls in a Smart ForTwo or just hitches a ride with a flock of seagulls to school. However, from an engineer's POV, he seems to know what he's talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buggernut Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 He's an architect specializing in sustainable urban design. He probably rolls in a Smart ForTwo or just hitches a ride with a flock of seagulls to school. Or he can afford to buy a home within walking distance to campus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckyHermit Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 I wonder how he gets to campus... Floo powder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 He's an architect specializing in sustainable urban design. He probably rolls in a Smart ForTwo or just hitches a ride with a flock of seagulls to school. However, from an engineer's POV, he seems to know what he's talking about. He probably does, but that doesn't make in necesarily "right". Besides, no one should have a degree in social engineering outside the communist party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 8th is too far from Broadway; the line needs to be close to Broadway as the station entrance needs to be located on that street. I recall there being some complaints of vibrations at Toronto General when they were tunnel boring a subway some years ago, I'm not sure how the vibrations would be managed here...perhaps, dig deeper? If you go down tenth there is no need for tunnel boring. Tunnel boring should only be an option when ALL other options are eliminated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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