Buggernut Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Here's a radical new idea for the WCE... How about branching the route at PoCo and running some of the trains to New Westminster instead of Vancouver? Will it get enough ridership? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Here's a radical new idea for the WCE... How about branching the route at PoCo and running some of the trains to New Westminster instead of Vancouver? Will it get enough ridership? If your in New West why not just take skytrain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buggernut Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 If your in New West why not just take skytrain? I meant from the Valley to New West. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 But is there really a need to schedule more trains during the day? By 2014 Port Moody, Coquitlam and Port Coquitlam will all be serviced by skytrain. Maple Ridge residents could get to the Coquitlam skytrain station within a 10-15 minute bus ride. The only benefit I guess would be it may attract a few more riders who feel an extra $5-8 a day is worth it to ride the WCE rather then skytrain. CP rail charges $7 million + for WCE to run on their rails per year and expanded service times occur that number would probably nearly double. The Railway also has a swing bridge over the Pitt River in which boats don't have authority to cross when the WCE is running in the AM and PM. A service throughout the day would hamper boat/tug operation as well a freight traffic. A better plan would be remain the status quo on the line. If translink wants to expand rail commuter traffic they should seriously consider creating a commuter rail service between langley and Scott Road. That line wouldn't intefere much with freight and encourage more development and ridership then the alternative. Without major upgrades a train could run from langley to Scott Road Skytrain station every hour. It would only take two trains to obtain hourly service. Although without a major upgrade it would take 1 hour to get from Willowbrook station in langley (40 minutes from the Cloverdale station, 20 minutes from the Newton station and 8 minutes from the North Delta station) to the station near the Scott Road skytrain station. With a major upgrade, time could probably be nearly cut in half and service could operate every 30 mintues. The major upgrade would cost a fraction of construction of skytrain. If your going to electrify that line might as well do it all the way out to abbotsford, might have to do double tracking past cloverdale though as that's the junction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 I meant from the Valley to New West. But Poco isn't in the valley? Just where is it that you are talking about? If it is in the valley you only need go to Scott Road. Anything else required the 2 billion dollar bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buggernut Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 But Poco isn't in the valley? Just where is it that you are talking about? If it is in the valley you only need go to Scott Road. Anything else required the 2 billion dollar bridge. I mean Mission-Maple Ridge-Pitt Meadows-Port Coquitlam-New West. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 I mean Mission-Maple Ridge-Pitt Meadows-Port Coquitlam-New West. And then they just transfer to skytrain, gotcha. I don't know anything about THAT railway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.K. Chesterton Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Went to Cap for the first time on Wednesday this semester. Man alive, the line up for the Capilano bus at Phibbs Exchange was brutal. I was fortunate enough to get on the second bus but there must have been 40+ people who still had to wait. Just made it to my class on time too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_1 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 I mean Mission-Maple Ridge-Pitt Meadows-Port Coquitlam-New West. doesn't make sense when the evergreen line is built. Why not take the evergreen line from POCO and connect to New West? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbo Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Went to Cap for the first time on Wednesday this semester. Man alive, the line up for the Capilano bus at Phibbs Exchange was brutal. I was fortunate enough to get on the second bus but there must have been 40+ people who still had to wait. Just made it to my class on time too... You think 40+ people is bad? Try getting to UBC any day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buggernut Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 doesn't make sense when the evergreen line is built. Why not take the evergreen line from POCO and connect to New West? That would be Coquitlam Central Station that the Evergreen Line would run from. The track to New West branches off before it gets there. Going through Port Moody and Lougheed Mall to get to New West is a bit of a roundabout trip too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 That would be Coquitlam Central Station that the Evergreen Line would run from. The track to New West branches off before it gets there. Going through Port Moody and Lougheed Mall to get to New West is a bit of a roundabout trip too. Ya, your effectively running the west coast express down what was the southern route for the Evergreen Line. I don't think that will happen but certainly not the worst idea ever, especially if it turns out the railroad has plans for it's shoreline route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_1 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 (edited) Your top 5 priorities for translink? 1. Evergreen Line 2. UBC extension 3. Expo Line upgrade 4. Langley-Willowbrook-Cloverdale-Newton-North Delta-Scott Road Commuter rail expansion. (finished after Expo Line has more capacity) 5. eventually extend the new commuter rail expansion to Abbotsford with a bus link connection to Chilliwack. Edited January 9, 2009 by tom_1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Sort of, for me it would be.... 1. UBC extension 2. Upgrade Exp Line to handle much larger trains 3. Build north option using skytrain tech for Evergreen Line 4. Extend Expo Line to Cloverdale and Willowblook mall. 5. Reinstate the old interubran from Scott Road to Chilliwack, on electrified track. The cloverdale expo line station should be build south enough to the tracks to allow the interubran to transfer there. 6. Install Bus only lanes on King George from While Rock to King George skytrain and put express buses on those. 7. Install bus only lanes for rapid bus from south tip of RAV to Twassen, the Ferries, and Ladner. (Requires more George Massey Tunnel Vision) 8. Need a bus only lane system that runs rapid bus connecting south side of the Fraser Communities say Ladner, to North Delta, and out to Cloverdale to make a triangle south of the River. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Common sense Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Sort of, for me it would be.... 1. UBC extension 2. Upgrade Exp Line to handle much larger trains 3. Build north option using skytrain tech for Evergreen Line 4. Extend Expo Line to Cloverdale and Willowblook mall. 5. Reinstate the old interubran from Scott Road to Chilliwack, on electrified track. The cloverdale expo line station should be build south enough to the tracks to allow the interubran to transfer there. 6. Install Bus only lanes on King George from While Rock to King George skytrain and put express buses on those. 7. Install bus only lanes for rapid bus from south tip of RAV to Twassen, the Ferries, and Ladner. (Requires more George Massey Tunnel Vision) 8. Need a bus only lane system that runs rapid bus connecting south side of the Fraser Communities say Ladner, to North Delta, and out to Cloverdale to make a triangle south of the River. Imagine if engineers could make a way to make a lane on the George Massey for buses only. That would shave off so much time for commuters on the 300s and 600s, especially with the new HOV lane on the 99 going to Bridgeport Stn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitronuts Posted January 14, 2009 Author Share Posted January 14, 2009 Work starting on the Evergreen Line: Money not finalized but Evergreen Line project office started By Diane Strandberg - The Tri-City News Published: January 13, 2009 6:00 PM Commuters hoping for signs that the Evergreen Line is on its way may take some comfort from seeing a massing of trailers at the Coquitlam transit centre across from Coquitlam Centre mall. A transportation ministry spokesperson confirmed this week that the trailers located at the northwest corner of at Barnet Highway and Johnson Street are, indeed, the start of a project office that will open in the coming weeks. “The project’s on base, on schedule and moving ahead,” said Dave Crebo. While a few trailers are a far cry from the concrete and steel pylons transit users were hoping to see for a new Burnaby-to-Coquitlam transit line, they’re a positive development. “It is a good sign that they’ve taken the step — they’re spending the money,” said Jim McIntyre, Coquitlam’s planning director. McIntyre said continued work on the Evergreen Line could be a balm to nervous developers and investors. “If the private sector sees significant public sector development taking place, things won’t grind to a halt,” he said. When it opens — the planned date is 2014 — the Evergreen Line, which will be SkyTrain-type technology, is expected to take riders from Coquitlam Town Centre to Lougheed Town Centre in Burnaby in 12.6 minutes. TransLink is contributing $400 million and the province is promising $410 million while awaiting confirmation of matching funding from the federal government. The remaining $200 million of the $1.4 billion is supposed to made up by private sector equity if the project is developed as a P3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abaddon Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 The federal government better help fund it. The reason transit here is so crapty is because of a lack of federal subsidies - that government is probably just too invested in the auto industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitronuts Posted January 14, 2009 Author Share Posted January 14, 2009 The federal government better help fund it. The reason transit here is so crapty is because of a lack of federal subsidies - that government is probably just too invested in the auto industry. The federal budget will be announced later month, and is rumoured to include something like $30-billion for accelerating infrastructure construction in the nation to soften the impact of the recession. Of that, nearly half a billion will go to the Evergreen Line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitronuts Posted January 14, 2009 Author Share Posted January 14, 2009 Canada Line on track to open ahead of schedule Alan Campbell, Richmond News Published: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 The Richmond section of the Canada Line is about two months ahead of schedule, according to the company charged with its operation. The entire rapid transit project, which will eventually link Richmond Centre, YVR and downtown Vancouver, is forecast to be open slightly earlier than the planned Nov. 30 launch date and within its $2 billion budget. But Richmond's guideways and bridges, on Sea Island and the city centre, are already complete. And the three Sea Island stations should be finished in March, while the four city centre stations (Bridgeport, Aberdeen, Lansdowne and Brighouse) are expected to be completed by April, two months ahead of the Vancouver stations. "The whole project is either on schedule or ahead of schedule," said Steve Crombie, vice president of public affairs with InTransitBC, which is responsible for the running of the Canada Line. "In Richmond the stations in particular are doing very well and construction is going much faster than anticipated. "The testing and commissioning of the trains is also progressing much quicker than we planned." Crombie said the test trains have been running from Richmond city centre out to YVR for some time now, but it will take longer before they're running to Vancouver. "There's still things that can happen, but so far we're in good shape all round," he said. "How far ahead exactly we are, I'm not quite sure, and that remains to be seen." Another hurdle to overcome before Canada Line gets the green light will be testing from the BC Safety Authority, which may find areas to improve on. Station finishings will be the next difference that people may notice over the coming weeks and months, Crombie said. "I reckon people will notice even more the streetscape work being carried out by the City of Richmond on No. 3 Road," he said. Meanwhile, InTransitBC has been investigating its first case of graffiti on the Richmond section of Canada Line. And the company still can't work out how the tagger managed on New Year's Eve to get past two locked gates at Lansdowne station, one with barbed wire, and up onto the guideway elevation to spray-paint a Canada Line car. "We've looked at all the possibilities and this must have been a very determined individual," Crombie said. "But when the line is eventually up and running it will be a lot more difficult for this kind of thing to happen as there will be security cameras and staff in the area." © Richmond News 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Common sense Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Can't wait for the sh*thole known as 3 Road to look better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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