Our philosphy vs theirs?

[SaintPatrick33]

So based on the 

On 11/16/2015, 12:49:43, Sherthng said:

 

"He's a big guy, we want to see what he can do," Anaheim coach Bruce Boudreau said. "If you bring up your prize rookie from the minors, you don't want to play him six minutes. You want to see if he can play."

How times have changed. Last year our prized rookie was Vey, getting top PP and 2nd line minutes. Now we have 5 rookies who all look faster than the old vets. 

[Cowardrobertford]

20 minutes ago, Quoted said:

A total of what 9 minutes of ice time at the NHL level? He was probably petrified of making a mistake.

Would have probably gotten more ice time if he was actually making something happen other that playing it safe. How do I know? McCann

Everytime we bring up someone 18-22 year old prospect, they don't have this freaking hunger to show what they could do, I mean other teams prospects comes up and they just instantly introduce themselves. Compare to our 23-25 year old who comes up, like kenins, biega, even gaunce, who made an impact instantly.

[WTG]

Let's compare our philosophy that a prospect has to grind it out in the bottom 6 before being in the top 6 to a actual winning philosophy.

 

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/nhl/red-wings/2015/02/23/igor-larionov-pavel-datsyuk/23889941/

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Larionov wrote: "I remember Datsyuk made a couple turnovers in a game when he first came to Detroit at age 23. Players on the team like Brett Hull, Brendan Shanahan, Steve Yzerman and myself had to tell him, "Pavel, just keep doing what you're doing." Thankfully, Scotty Bowman had the wisdom to see his potential. If he was on a different team with a different coach who did not appreciate that kind of unique skill, Datsyuk might have been out of the league. He would be playing in the KHL tonight.

"In Russia right now, there are four or five Datsyuks playing in the KHL who never got their chance. Sergei Mozyakin led the KHL in scoring last season and was in the scoring race for most of his 20s. But he's 33 now and nobody in America has ever heard of him. Why? Most North American coaches don't have the patience for his style of play."

"Many young players who are intelligent and can see the game four moves ahead are not valued," Larionov wrote. "They're told 'simple, simple, simple.'"

"That mentality is kind of boring. Nobody wants to get fired. Nobody wants to get sent down to the minors. If you look at the coaches in Juniors and minor league hockey, many of them were not skill players. It's a lot of former enforcers and grinders who take these coaching jobs. Naturally, they tell their players to be just like them."

Do we want Willie's philosophy of creating grinders or do we want Bowman's philosophy of creating super stars.

 

We need to allow our young guys to play and now be afraid if they try to be fancy. That is how they will develop into superstars. That is how we replace the Sedins. The Red Wings knew this with Datsyuk and Zetterberg. That is why they have been so successful for so long. It's this philosophy that got them to be the model for the rest of the league today. Why don't we copy it? Why are we so afraid to let players make mistakes?

 

A player like Baertschi who is incredibly skilled will bust if we continue to give him sub 10 minutes of icetime and not allow him to make mistakes. Willie's strategy of placing a guy like Shinkaruk next to grinders like Cracknell and Dorsett does not work long term as a development strategy. Scotty Bowman saw this, that is why he allowed skilled players to use their skill even if it costs us a turnover/goal against.

 

We cannot ever replace the sedins unless we change our whole philosophy.