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Are you happy we drafted Patrick?

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#421 avelanch

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 11:06 PM

harvard wasn't in the top 16 at the end of the season, but their performance in the playoffs may have impressed the ncaa selection committee enough to earn an entry into the final dance (the last goal was an empty netter), but it's a long shot. we should find out soon.
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Posted 18 March 2012 - 02:51 PM

Unfortunately Harvard did not make the final 16 selection for the NCAA tourney. his season is officially over.
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Posted 18 March 2012 - 10:06 PM

lame. Oh well. A great rookie season for him.
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Posted 18 March 2012 - 11:17 PM

ATO with the Wolves?

Or would it void his NCAA scholarship?

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 06:47 AM

ATO with the Wolves?

Or would it void his NCAA scholarship?

that would void it. anything that would give him a paycheck or any gifts (like room, board, transportation) for playing would void it.
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Posted 21 March 2012 - 01:31 AM

If only it could be like golf where the player can choose not to receive any benefits to retain their amateur status.

Oh well... hopefully McNally is rich and can afford all the playoff tickets for the Canucks, lol.
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Posted 21 March 2012 - 07:21 AM

If only it could be like golf where the player can choose not to receive any benefits to retain their amateur status.

Oh well... hopefully McNally is rich and can afford all the playoff tickets for the Canucks, lol.


Well he goes to Harvard. That either means he's rich or very much in debt, the first being more likely considering where he went to high school.
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Posted 21 March 2012 - 07:53 AM

Well he goes to Harvard. That either means he's rich or very much in debt, the first being more likely considering where he went to high school.

or he's getting a full scholarship, like most athletes in the NCAA. odds are his prep school was on scholarship too. I know I was offered a scholarship to a prep school for high school hockey back when i was in bantam. I probably should have tried to convince my parents to allow me to accept it, but my mom was scared of letting me move across the country by myself as a 15 year old. it probably would have been much different if the school was driving distance from our house, like it was for patrick and his family.
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Posted 21 March 2012 - 04:18 PM

or he's getting a full scholarship, like most athletes in the NCAA. odds are his prep school was on scholarship too. I know I was offered a scholarship to a prep school for high school hockey back when i was in bantam. I probably should have tried to convince my parents to allow me to accept it, but my mom was scared of letting me move across the country by myself as a 15 year old. it probably would have been much different if the school was driving distance from our house, like it was for patrick and his family.


I was under the impression that Harvard didn't give full scholarships to their athletes. I swear I read it somewhere...
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http://www.hcs.harva...ting/myths.html

"No athletic scholarships are awarded"
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Posted 22 March 2012 - 12:56 AM

I was under the impression that Harvard didn't give full scholarships to their athletes. I swear I read it somewhere...
*two minutes pass*

http://www.hcs.harva...ting/myths.html

"No athletic scholarships are awarded"


No athletic scholarship doesn't mean McNally isn't on another type of financial aid.

http://www.c2educate...-financial-aid/
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Posted 22 March 2012 - 05:52 AM

plus harvard alumni offer scholarships as do other "societies" that happen to focus on athletics.
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Posted 22 March 2012 - 04:21 PM

Look back at the 2010 draft we really messed that one up by trading away our first 3 picks. This was actually very very deep draft. Of course this is nothing new of our incompetent scouting team for misjudging the talents again.

By trading away just our first round pick (25th) we missed out on:
Evgeny Kuznetsov
Charlie Coyle
Emerson Etem
Brock Nelson
Justin Faulk (dude's already better than Ballard)
Jon Merrill
Christian Thomas
Devante Smith-Pelly
Tyler Toffoli

Most of those guys are ranked top 3 on their respected team's draft talents on hockeyfuture

Edited by jigsaw99, 22 March 2012 - 04:24 PM.

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 04:30 PM

Look back at the 2010 draft we really messed that one up by trading away our first 3 picks. This was actually very very deep draft. Of course this is nothing new of our incompetent scouting team for misjudging the talents again.

By trading away just our first round pick (25th) we missed out on:
Evgeny Kuznetsov
Charlie Coyle
Emerson Etem
Brock Nelson
Justin Faulk (dude's already better than Ballard)
Jon Merrill
Christian Thomas
Devante Smith-Pelly
Tyler Toffoli

Most of those guys are ranked top 3 on their respected team's draft talents on hockeyfuture


Well I guess we'll just have to wait until 2015-2016 to see where those kids are at when their time comes?
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Kassian.... Taylor Pyatt 3.0

Lies. He's more of a Steve Bernier. Hopefully his talent level goes up so he can become like a Taylor Pyatt.


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Posted 22 March 2012 - 05:09 PM

Well I guess we'll just have to wait until 2015-2016 to see where those kids are at when their time comes?

Smith-Pelly and Faulk is already playing is half those guys have a good chance to play in the NHL next year
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Posted 22 March 2012 - 07:19 PM

Smith-Pelly and Faulk is already playing is half those guys have a good chance to play in the NHL next year


Playing in the NHL and making a major impact in the NHL are two separate things. Let's see where these kids are at age 24.
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Kassian.... Taylor Pyatt 3.0

Lies. He's more of a Steve Bernier. Hopefully his talent level goes up so he can become like a Taylor Pyatt.


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Posted 24 March 2012 - 12:37 AM

Look back at the 2010 draft we really messed that one up by trading away our first 3 picks. This was actually very very deep draft. Of course this is nothing new of our incompetent scouting team for misjudging the talents again.

By trading away just our first round pick (25th) we missed out on:
Evgeny Kuznetsov
Charlie Coyle
Emerson Etem
Brock Nelson
Justin Faulk (dude's already better than Ballard)
Jon Merrill
Christian Thomas
Devante Smith-Pelly
Tyler Toffoli

Most of those guys are ranked top 3 on their respected team's draft talents on hockeyfuture


lol you are assuming our scouting staff are good enough to recommend these players to Gillis.
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Posted 24 March 2012 - 12:45 PM

Ya, there's not much chance we would have drafted Kuznetsov or Smith-Pelley.
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Posted 29 May 2012 - 10:03 AM

Freshman standout



Canucks draftee Patrick McNally just completed a solid freshman season at the University of Harvard…wait, what? Harvard? They play hockey at Harvard?

They sure do. Not only does the prestigious university produce American Presidents and Nobel Prize Winners, it has also produced a few NHL players lately as well. McNally may find himself on the list of former Crimson in the League one day, but he has some work to do before then.

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The 6-foot-2 defenseman looks to be on the right track. In two seasons since being chosen by the Canucks in the fourth round, he was named the Boston Prep School Player of the Year while playing for Milton Academy, and followed that up this season being named to the ECAC All-League Third Team, ECAC All-Rookie Team, and was a finalist for ECAC Rookie of the Year.
He posted 28 points (6-22-28) in 34 games, helping the Crimson to a 13-10-11 record. The native of Glen Head, New York, exploded onto the scene with 17 points (4-13-17) in his first 14 games.
It takes great discipline to be a student athlete in the NCAA, the vigorous task of managing academics and athletics can be challenging at times. McNally was brought up on discipline.
His father Tom was also an Ivy League student athlete, captaining the football team at Columbia University. McNally looks to his father as an example for his student-athlete life.
“My father was always an enormous influence in my academic and athletic life,” said McNally. “He always taught me to work hard in both areas and stressed the importance of showing respect to my teachers and coaches. He also stressed doing things the right way and the importance of being able to look at yourself after a game knowing that you gave your best. Without his guidance I know I would not be in the position I am in today.”
McNally is a pure offensive defenseman that can rush the puck up the ice and quarterback the power play. However, he knows that to be successful in the future, he will need to be good at both ends of the ice and that's something he plans to improve on during his time at Harvard.
“I know that if I ever want to play at the NHL level my defensive game has to improve,” he said. “Over the course of the year working with our coaches, especially defensive coach Albie O'Connell, I believe I have become more conscious in my own end and more aware defensively. I hope to continue my improvement in the defensive zone and become as responsible as I can be.”
Posted ImageMcNally will wrap up his first year at Harvard shortly, but don’t expect to see him frequenting the beach this summer. His pursuit of academic and athletic excellence will keep him busier than ever.
“This summer I will return home for about a month after school before going back to Harvard to take a class and workout with our strength and conditioning coach.
“Hopefully after a summer of skating and working out hard I can return as a stronger hockey player.”
Judging by McNally’s work ethic, they don’t just play hockey at Harvard, they live and breathe it.

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Kid looks to be on the right track, and has a great head on his shoulders. Can't wait to see him in the AHL, and then hopefully the NHL.

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Posted 16 June 2012 - 03:43 AM

They really ought to do more prospect features. A decent job with the ones already out, but hopefully they can keep us updated throughout the summer.
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Posted 17 August 2012 - 03:36 PM

Canucks Nation has McNally with 28 virtual points in the NHL and that was based on last year.
Sign him up should be good for 35 virtual points this year!
We are on our way to a virtual Stanley Cup guarantiedlll
Seriously though this kid is going to be good for real.

Quote from Canucks Nation below:

Thanks to Gabe Desjardins and his NHL equivalency (NHLE) number, we have some rough tools that allow us to project Price's production were he to move to the NHL next season. NHLE is only intended to be a snap-shot and it has some limitations, but it's based on the offensive performance of players who moved from one league to another in consecutive seasons.

This method tends to underestimate the difficulty of leagues that are substantially weaker than the NHL. This happens because only the top players get called up to the NHL – before the call-up, they were on the first line and playing the power play; after the call-up, they’re 3rd or 4th liners. This cuts down on both their overall ice time, and on their power play time, which is when they’d get the best opportunities to score.


Thomas Drance calculated the NHLE for several Vancouver prospects back in May. Here are the defensemen:


Prospect League Age NHLE G NHLE A NHLE Pts Patrick McNally NCAA 20 6 22 28 Henrik Tömmernes SEL 21 7 13 20 Jeremy Price NCAA 21 2 18 20 Kevin Connauton AHL 22 7 9 16 Frank Corrado OHL 19 1 10 11 Adam Polasek AHL 20 1 6 7 Yann Sauvé AHL 22 2 4 6 Sawyer Hannay QMJHL 19 0 1 1

Edited by Rollieo Del Fuego, 17 August 2012 - 03:37 PM.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 07:41 PM

Canucks Nation has McNally with 28 virtual points in the NHL and that was based on last year.
Sign him up should be good for 35 virtual points this year!
We are on our way to a virtual Stanley Cup guarantiedlll
Seriously though this kid is going to be good for real.

Quote from Canucks Nation below:

Thanks to Gabe Desjardins and his NHL equivalency (NHLE) number, we have some rough tools that allow us to project Price's production were he to move to the NHL next season. NHLE is only intended to be a snap-shot and it has some limitations, but it's based on the offensive performance of players who moved from one league to another in consecutive seasons.

This method tends to underestimate the difficulty of leagues that are substantially weaker than the NHL. This happens because only the top players get called up to the NHL – before the call-up, they were on the first line and playing the power play; after the call-up, they’re 3rd or 4th liners. This cuts down on both their overall ice time, and on their power play time, which is when they’d get the best opportunities to score.


Thomas Drance calculated the NHLE for several Vancouver prospects back in May. Here are the defensemen:


Prospect League Age NHLE G NHLE A NHLE Pts Patrick McNally NCAA 20 6 22 28 Henrik Tömmernes SEL 21 7 13 20 Jeremy Price NCAA 21 2 18 20 Kevin Connauton AHL 22 7 9 16 Frank Corrado OHL 19 1 10 11 Adam Polasek AHL 20 1 6 7 Yann Sauvé AHL 22 2 4 6 Sawyer Hannay QMJHL 19 0 1 1


Was he also a virtual -84 for the season? Haha kidding.

Seriously though, McNally's defensive and physical game is not ready for the NHL. He looks promising though.

Edited by Dasein, 17 August 2012 - 07:42 PM.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 01:14 PM

Was he also a virtual -84 for the season? Haha kidding.

Seriously though, McNally's defensive and physical game is not ready for the NHL. He looks promising though.


You have to figure one of these kids are going to continue there trajectory into a Star if not Superstar player.
If Mallet continues his he should score 80 points in the AHL or 40 in the NHL given he went from 20 points or so up to 80 or so,
steep trajectory, Tanev sort of did it and players like Karlsson for Ottawa and Burrows for that matter, have made quantum leaps once or twice in there careers.

McNally has size and will fill out. Sound defensive play can be learned, he is a smart fellow. I see him as something between a Streit and Karlsson type player.
Streit was minus 27 last year but who would not want him on there team?

That makes him my pick for at least one more major leap forward and next year may be the one he makes it.
He may only be a year away but two is more likely.
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Posted 19 August 2012 - 05:16 PM

You have to figure one of these kids are going to continue there trajectory into a Star if not Superstar player.
If Mallet continues his he should score 80 points in the AHL or 40 in the NHL given he went from 20 points or so up to 80 or so,
steep trajectory, Tanev sort of did it and players like Karlsson for Ottawa and Burrows for that matter, have made quantum leaps once or twice in there careers.

McNally has size and will fill out. Sound defensive play can be learned, he is a smart fellow. I see him as something between a Streit and Karlsson type player.
Streit was minus 27 last year but who would not want him on there team?

That makes him my pick for at least one more major leap forward and next year may be the one he makes it.
He may only be a year away but two is more likely.


Really? My pick for a defensive prospect to make the NHL would be Frank Corrado, hands down. But I also think that McNally could either be a Mark Streit type 2nd pairing offensive defenseman (as he likes to compare himself) or a Marc-Andre Bergeron type 3rd pairing power play specialist defenseman.

I would rank our defensive prospects as Corrado > Connauton > Polasek > McNally > Sauve > Price personally.
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Posted 21 August 2012 - 04:21 PM

Really? My pick for a defensive prospect to make the NHL would be Frank Corrado, hands down. But I also think that McNally could either be a Mark Streit type 2nd pairing offensive defenseman (as he likes to compare himself) or a Marc-Andre Bergeron type 3rd pairing power play specialist defenseman.

I would rank our defensive prospects as Corrado > Connauton > Polasek > McNally > Sauve > Price personally.


I figure McNally has better offensive skills and instincts than Connauton, it he can learn the defensive side of it I think he has the most upside of the bunch. So I agree with your ratings with the exception of putting McNally first and Connauton second then Corrado, etc.
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Posted 21 August 2012 - 06:12 PM

McNally had a monster freshman year. I think he is a real keeper. Polasek surprised at the AHL level as well. It looks like we may actually emerge out of that draft year where we traded all our picks above round four with TWO players!!

Who would have guessed?
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Posted 21 August 2012 - 06:17 PM

McNally
Connauton
Polasek
Corrado
Sauve
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Posted 22 August 2012 - 11:40 AM

McNally
Connauton
Polasek
Corrado
Sauve


How are you ranking them?

Potential to make it to the NHL as a regular (at least 8th dman):
Sauve
Corrado
Polasek
Connauton
McNally

Potential to be a top 4:
Connauton
McNally
Polasek
Corrado
Sauve

Potential to be a star:
Connauton

Connauton and McNally are boom or bust. Corrado and Sauve look like they will be bottom pairing or 7/8 guys (Corrado more of a 5/6, Sauve more of a 6/7). Polasek lies somewhere in between.
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Posted 22 August 2012 - 11:50 AM

How are you ranking them?

Potential to make it to the NHL as a regular (at least 8th dman):
Sauve
Corrado
Polasek
Connauton
McNally

Potential to be a top 4:
Connauton
McNally
Polasek
Corrado
Sauve

Potential to be a star:
Connauton

Connauton and McNally are boom or bust. Corrado and Sauve look like they will be bottom pairing or 7/8 guys (Corrado more of a 5/6, Sauve more of a 6/7). Polasek lies somewhere in between.


Corrado has more potential to be a #2 Dman than Polasek does to be top 4
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Posted 23 August 2012 - 06:01 PM

Corrado has more potential to be a #2 Dman than Polasek does to be top 4


Hard to say. I could see Polasek becoming a Bieksa-type player. Like Bieksa, Polasek is kind of flying under the radar a bit.

Corrado scored 10 goals, 65 points in 190 OHL games. Polasek scored 20 goals, 80 points in 127 QMJHL games. Polasek is also 3 inches taller and about 20lbs heavier. Corrado could become a very reliable stay-at-home guy but I don't think he has the size or offensive upside to be a top 4. Polasek has the better tools but Corrado has the better toolbox.

I am not really arguing with you. I switched them back and forth, this is just my justification. Corrado could be the type of mistake free guy you want plugging in 23 or 24 minutes per game even if he doesn't score or beat people up.

Here is why I am excited about Polasek




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Posted 23 August 2012 - 06:06 PM

Hard to say. I could see Polasek becoming a Bieksa-type player. Corrado scored only 10 goals, 65 points in 190 OHL games. Polasek scored 20 goals, 80 points in 127 QMJHL games. Polasek is also 3 inches taller and about 20lbs heavier. Corrado could become a very reliable stay-at-home guy but I don't think he has the size or offensive upside to be a top 4. Polasek has the better tools but Corrado has the better toolbox.

I am not really arguing with you. I switched them back and forth, this is just my justification. Corrado could be the type of mistake free guy you want plugging in 23 or 24 minutes per game even if he doesn't score or beat people up.


His OHl numbers dipped because his coach played him as a defense first guy. He played against the top forwards and was 1st man back on d. While I agree he's not going to become an offensive dynamo, his offense is under rated right now because sudbury needed him to play a different role
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