Common sense Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Funny, CTV's pulled the story about Nathan...seems maybe Daddy's lawyers got involved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Common sense Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Cars don't blow up except in Hollywood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 And you know that these people being outted on facebook for saying "The Riots were awesome" actually set stuff on fire? Actually got into a fight? The point is, this vigilante justice is NOT justice. So someone who kicked in a window or took a $300 purse or flipped a car deserves to have their future destroyed for one drunken mistake? Instead, you'd rather destroy their lives? Right, make them live on E.I. for 6 months and cost tax payers MORE money... that makes sense... So no one here has downloaded $100,000 worth of music/movies from torrents? Oh right, big music and movie companies make millions so it's ok... but London drugs, they need our help. Maybe you've been a model citizen your entire life Deb, but most people haven't - most of us make mistakes. I'm not saying they should be given anonymity, or get off scott free - I'm saying we have no right to impose our own mob justice on them and wreck the lives and careers of teens who got drunk and made a mistake. They should be punished, they should have to pay their dues, but not by us. That's why we have the police, the courts and a government. This is all just about vengeance because everyone is angry. This isn't about justice. Again, if these people's "lives are destroyed" because we're calling extra attention to what they did, then that's their issue, not mine. I'm not destroying anyone's lives - they are. So let's let them wear that badge...they sure were on Wednesday. I've made mistakes but, in that, have paid for them and these people should do the same. And yes, some of these were simply kids going along for the ride...so let's deter them from making a habit of it. Downloading music is something quite different than kicking the crap out of strangers or playing frisbee with glass shards. So let's keep things in perspective and don't deflect from one by using another. There were also some very violent acts that took place and more than just "mistakes"...some of this was calculated and there's no room for it here. Sorry, no one I know packs rags and fuel starter and that, to me, is not a mistake. It's a bone headed move. And no, I don't think we should attack these people or retaliate. But this will change the face of this city for awhile...so, am I pissed? Yeah. As someone who's lived/paid taxes here my entire life, you're damn right I'm angry. Events that may have been planned here in the future will be impacted by this. Some people were very shaken up by this. So it's not just a matter of pissing in someone's planter...these "mistakes" will have an impact on people and we have a right to be angry. So don't pull the "perfect citizen" crap...we're not talking about me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brahma Bull Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 one of his friends is defending him on that youtube apology by telling people to f off. yup, that'll make us forgive him. people have to realize that with the power of social media, you are going to be judged whether it is warranted or not and that it will never leave once it's on the internet. I'm sure that riot is a lesson to a lot of people that they can't get away with this type of behavior in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight up lazy Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 What grandpa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Common sense Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 And you know that these people being outted on facebook for saying "The Riots were awesome" actually set stuff on fire? Actually got into a fight? The point is, this vigilante justice is NOT justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin. Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Their sympathizers disgust me almost as much as they do. I don't think I could ever forgive these scumbags for what they did. Also, for the folks that haven't time to visit The Bay downtown to look at the public art, here's an online version: http://thisisourvancouver.com/ Edit: I should add that I'm usually a forgiving person but I get the vibe that if you give those idiots an inch, they'll take a mile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horny Manatee Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 So have we at least admitted to ourselves that many Canucks fans were involved yet? Or are we still blaming the 'anarchists?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buggernut Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 And you know that these people being outted on facebook for saying "The Riots were awesome" actually set stuff on fire? Actually got into a fight? The point is, this vigilante justice is NOT justice. So someone who kicked in a window or took a $300 purse or flipped a car deserves to have their future destroyed for one drunken mistake? Instead, you'd rather destroy their lives? Right, make them live on E.I. for 6 months and cost tax payers MORE money... that makes sense... So no one here has downloaded $100,000 worth of music/movies from torrents? Oh right, big music and movie companies make millions so it's ok... but London drugs, they need our help. Maybe you've been a model citizen your entire life Deb, but most people haven't - most of us make mistakes. I'm not saying they should be given anonymity, or get off scott free - I'm saying we have no right to impose our own mob justice on them and wreck the lives and careers of teens who got drunk and made a mistake. They should be punished, they should have to pay their dues, but not by us. That's why we have the police, the courts and a government. This is all just about vengeance because everyone is angry. This isn't about justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aixtek Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Downloading music is something quite different than kicking the crap out of strangers or playing frisbee with glass shards. So let's keep things in perspective and don't deflect from one by using another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brahma Bull Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 look what a calgarypuck user created: yes, an event titled. 'dont support the Canucks' http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=173105796082984&pending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aixtek Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blevy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buggernut Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Am I the only one whos getting a bit disturbed by the vigilante hate justice and witch hunt going around now? What happened was shameful and wrong, but anyone who tipped over, burnt, smashed a car, or looted from stores DO NOT deserve to have their life destroyed from 1 mistake. We all know people who have shoplifted (maybe it was just a candy from a store, or shirt from value village), we all know people who have done stupid crap when they were younger and drunk - but do we crucify them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Buggernut Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPQOQsLUW60&feature=player_embedded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Daddy probably had a pretty big influence on the crocodile tears. Nope, not buying it....too easy that way....time to man up and pay the piper. We all get "caught up in the moment at times" but, for most of us, we get a little louder or sillier. The stuff that Nathan did could've had serious consequence to others. No sympathy at all....spoiled little rich boy should have known better and obviously has been afforded luxuries and opportunities that many others are not. Why does that matter?...because what bloody gripe does he have with society or this city to possibly explain his lashing out? I mean it seems that this city/country has been helping pave the way for possible future glory for him, and that's how he responds? There's no way in hell that he should ever be afforded the privilege of representing Canada in any way, shape or form. He contributed to the shame and embarrassment that our city's been associated with and we all get to live with that. Plus, for some of the young people stuck down there (my young nephew), this event traumatized them and they get to live with the fear and anxiety of future gatherings and events. (They saw people using shards of glass as frisbees and randomly tossing them at people). These punks should not be let off easy because in front of Mommy and Daddy they turn into sniveling cry babies. They were tough guys on Wednesday, so that's how they should be treated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Had that cop car blown up in Nathan Kotylak's face and injured a ton of bystanders, what happens then? Does Nathan still make the same tearful apology? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buggernut Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 The Nathan Kotylak press conference and fuax tears are brought to you by the same PR firm that produced the Todd Bertuzzi weepy presser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Just wondering, why is Nathan's name okay to throw around here now, but not Laura Szendrei's killer's? The former has been officially charged by now, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buggernut Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 As far as I can see there have been no charges laid as of yet. The Vancouver Sun story of his apology states: He has not been charged, nor have police said he is being investigated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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