Dogbyte Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 MG was great and somewhat revolutionary in his first 3 years. He was brutal and paralyzed in the last 3. I appreciate the excitement he helped bring but I am so glad he's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down by the River Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 If Nonis had 'Nonuts' as the uneducated like to call him, he would have caved to owners' demands in 2008 and dealt Kesler, Schneider, and Edler to Tampa Bay for Brad Richards and change. Nonis saved this franchise by the trades he didn't make. He didn't cave to owner pressure because he wasn't willing to ruin a team to save his own job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronalds.Kenins41 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 not sure how shinkaruk is a bust hes 19 playing in the ahl learning the pro game wait til next yr when he lights up ahl and gets called up to bigs some fans are astounding its rare than 18 yr olds come into league as a super star. happens once in a while but 19 playing first yr in ahl is not a bust not saying he is a bust just that hip and back injuries are serious especially if your a forward. Look at how Hodgson skates now, he never recovered from his back injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronalds.Kenins41 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 If Nonis had 'Nonuts' as the uneducated like to call him, he would have caved to owners' demands in 2008 and dealt Kesler, Schneider, and Edler to Tampa Bay for Brad Richards and change. Nonis saved this franchise by the trades he didn't make. He didn't cave to owner pressure because he wasn't willing to ruin a team to save his own job. I remember Nonis saying after he was fired "If down the road this team achieves success, it will because of the pieces we have put in place". He knew... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonberries Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 What about Jensen and Shinkaruk? It's certainly more than was in the cupboard when Nonis was fired. Gillis made some good trades, signings and draft picks and some that didn't work out. Pretty much like every GM. So what's the relevance again? Schneider, Edler, Hansen, Brown, Raymond, Grabner, (Bourdon?) in four drafts beats Hodgson, Corrado, Horvat (Cassels, Gaunce, Jensen, Shinkaruk?) in six drafts imho. Particularly when Gillis made a point of criticizing the work Nonis in this area on the draft/development issue ('there aren't any impact players') when he took the job as GM. The fact that Benning just yesterday had to sacrifice a great pick of his own (Forsling) to cover for the deficit Gillis left iin this area is telling. Expect more moves as Benning tackles the gaping hole left by Gillis in this area. I've been saying for a while that we'll pay for our lack of players in the 20-25 age group, it's a tough spot for Benning to be in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronalds.Kenins41 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Schneider, Edler, Hansen, Brown, Raymond, Grabner, (Bourdon?) in four drafts beats Hodgson, Corrado, Horvat (Cassels, Gaunce, Jensen, Shinkaruk?) in six drafts imho. Particularly when Gillis made a point of criticizing the work Nonis in this area on the draft/development issue ('there aren't any impact players') when he took the job as GM. The fact that Benning just yesterday had to sacrifice a great pick of his own (Forsling) to cover for the deficit Gillis left iin this area is telling. Expect more moves as Benning tackles the gaping hole left by Gillis in this area. I've been saying for a while that we'll pay for our lack of players in the 20-25 age group, it's a tough spot for Benning to be in. Schneider, Edler, Hansen, Brown, Raymond, Grabner, (Bourdon?) in four drafts beats Hodgson, Corrado, Horvat (Cassels, Gaunce, Jensen, Shinkaruk?) in six drafts imho. Particularly when Gillis made a point of criticizing the work Nonis in this area on the draft/development issue ('there aren't any impact players') when he took the job as GM. The fact that Benning just yesterday had to sacrifice a great pick of his own (Forsling) to cover for the deficit Gillis left iin this area is telling. Expect more moves as Benning tackles the gaping hole left by Gillis in this area. I've been saying for a while that we'll pay for our lack of players in the 20-25 age group, it's a tough spot for Benning to be in. drafting is such a crap shoot though, I know these guys get paid millions to do it but man I wouldn't want to be them that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Gillis provided players for the roster to win now.He sacrificed the future by dealing off picks while spending to the Aqua cap max as the twins and Burr sacrificed cash to win.In his last two drafts he did ok but he lost (and did not replace) his second line scoring, PMD's,Schneider and Luongo in his process.He figured out that his strategy lacked as his farm depth and cap diminished and his team waned.His strategy was played out with the Burke/Nonis core fading and his lack of player acquisition and development skills exposed by the lack of team depth.Gillis did the exact opposite of tanking as he went supernova and burnt out his core and position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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