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Poll: What is the solution to our offensive woes? (103 member(s) have cast votes)

What needs to be done to increase our offensive output (goals) especially come playoff time?

  1. Go the UFA route and get whomever will take the hometown discount (21 votes [11.48%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.48%

  2. Trade for top end talent to play with the Sedins, preferably a big power forward (24 votes [13.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.11%

  3. Trade for a playmaking winger to play with Kesler (59 votes [32.24%])

    Percentage of vote: 32.24%

  4. Utilize our prospects and inject some youth into our offensive core (36 votes [19.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 19.67%

  5. Stand pat and hope for the best.......? (8 votes [4.37%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.37%

  6. Sign or trade for larger meaner players (12 votes [6.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.56%

  7. A different coaching strategy that hasn't become predictable to the other 29 teams in the league (23 votes [12.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.57%

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#91 Riviera82

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 10:13 AM

Really? That's the best you got? Pathetic. My point is that there's FAR TOO MANY cry babies on here whining about this player or that player or our coach or our GM or the fact that we did this or that or didn't do this or that...it gets a little sickening at times. Starting a topic about our offensive woes is pathetic. As a matter of fact it should be locked as "irrelevant". Let's start a new topic about the Canuck's new orange jerseys? Cause it ain't true either. Seriously, I think now we're just starting a topic to complain about something just to be heard. Is it too much to ask the fans of this team to believe in it? To believe in the players, or the coach, the owners and their management?

I don't feel that this current generation of Canuck's fans has the right to criticize what we see on the ice today. My first car was a 72 Maverick that I paid $200 of my own money to buy. Today these spoiled brats get mommy or daddy to buy them a new Mustang, then they complain when they don't also get gas money...again...pathetic. And sadly this same mentality shows up on here. Spoiled fans.

Just about ANY other team in the league would kill for what we have. And it just isn't good enough for our "fans". Try and dis on the Oilers to one of their fans...they'd rip your head off. Or tell a Rider's fan that their coach can't count players...and they'd tear you a hole.

So I ask then...where's the passion FOR our team, no matter what that team looks like come Sept? Is it all going to be AGAINST them? All the F/A's that got away? The trades that didn't happen? What if next year we DON'T win the Stanley Cup...or even the President's Cup? What if we don't even win the division? Will we then long for the "good old days"? (Those days would be now in case you didn't catch that).


I think people would relax about all the little things if this franchise could just win one Stanley Cup, just one I think is what most of us are asking, at least that is all I want anyways.

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 10:46 AM

what we need is a completely healthy kesler and a well oiled amex line....everything else will work itself out....sc.

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 10:51 AM

Before Malholtra got injured in 2011 we had 3 strong lines that could score. We need 3 lines that can consistantly put the puck in the net. This will give more room to the top two scoring lines.
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Posted 13 July 2012 - 11:13 AM

what we need is a completely healthy kesler and a well oiled amex line....everything else will work itself out....sc.


Kesler in prime shape would be huge.
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Posted 13 July 2012 - 11:17 AM

Still some CoHo dodos moping around here, huh?
You birds are never gonna fly...


The solution to the Canucks 'scoring' woes...

Sedin Sedin (Doan)/Burrows
Booth Kesler Burrows/(Doan)
Higgins Schroeder/Gaunce/(Matthias or Bjugstad) Hansen
Malhotra/Raymond Lapierre Kassian
Volpatti Pinnizotto Jensen
Weise Ebbett Grenier/Rodin

Hamhuis Bieksa
Edler Garrison
Ballard Tanev
Alberts (Petrovic)
Connauton Sauve

Garrison, a big two way 23 minute guy who solidifies Edler - a great start.
Kassian and hopefull Doan - two big power forward right wingers - exactly what the team was lacking.
One tweak that would be nice would be to give up a future(s) to get Chris Neil - would give us some beastly depth. Luongo for prospects would give the cap space for Doan (6) and Neil (2.0,1.9...)

In addition, (hopefully we can add a couple big young prospects like Bjugstad or Matthias and Petrovic), along with prospects like Connauton, Jensen, Rodin, on the offensive side, and guys like Sauve and Mallet on the defensive side...

It's a team game - this team only needs a player or two - the rest is solid and deep. I love this team, it can score, or it can beat you 1-0.

Edited by oldnews, 13 July 2012 - 11:25 AM.


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Posted 13 July 2012 - 11:40 AM

Chris Neil just signed a 3 year extension with Ottawa so i don't see them trading him

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 12:22 PM

Offensive woes? We've finished 2nd, 1st and 5th in scoring the last 3 years. We've scored more goals than any other team in that span. Yet somehow we have "offensive woes" because we got shutdown by the Conn Smyth winner in 1 5-game series?


Yea we do have offensive problems because everytime playoffs come around our offense disappears we need a big forward to free up space for kes bobby ryan gillis get er done

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 12:33 PM

Still some CoHo dodos moping around here, huh?
You birds are never gonna fly...


The solution to the Canucks 'scoring' woes...

Sedin Sedin (Doan)/Burrows
Booth Kesler Burrows/(Doan)
Higgins Schroeder/Gaunce/(Matthias or Bjugstad) Hansen
Malhotra/Raymond Lapierre Kassian
Volpatti Pinnizotto Jensen
Weise Ebbett Grenier/Rodin

Hamhuis Bieksa
Edler Garrison
Ballard Tanev
Alberts (Petrovic)
Connauton Sauve

Garrison, a big two way 23 minute guy who solidifies Edler - a great start.
Kassian and hopefull Doan - two big power forward right wingers - exactly what the team was lacking.
One tweak that would be nice would be to give up a future(s) to get Chris Neil - would give us some beastly depth. Luongo for prospects would give the cap space for Doan (6) and Neil (2.0,1.9...)

In addition, (hopefully we can add a couple big young prospects like Bjugstad or Matthias and Petrovic), along with prospects like Connauton, Jensen, Rodin, on the offensive side, and guys like Sauve and Mallet on the defensive side...

It's a team game - this team only needs a player or two - the rest is solid and deep. I love this team, it can score, or it can beat you 1-0.


The Coho dodos are never going to get over it.

I have a feeling that Garrison is going to flourish here in Vancouver.

One or two moves is all this team needs. I have faith that Gillis will make full use of the summer to make the right moves
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#99 Ray_Cathode

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 02:32 PM

So......the Canucks signed Jason Garrison to a six year deal, which may go a long way to solving our defensive issues.

Our offense has not changed though. While we do have elite forwards like the Sedins and Kesler (also Burrows, Hansen, and supposedly Booth could be), our offensive output is lacking at times. It has seemed especially lacking during the the Stanely Cup Final against the Bruins and last years run against the Kings.

Yes those were BIG teams with amazing goaltenders, but aren't the Canucks a great team with amazing goaltending?

Where do the forward corps problems lie? And what must be done to fix them?


Our offence is lacking when Kesler is hurt and can't play like Kelser. When he could play like Kesler two years ago, we had the best offence in the league. That said, we will have a huge hole at the 2nd centre spot till he returns (a spot the guy we traded would have been perfect for - why we did not trade for a centre to come back (knowing of Kesler's injury in February) is beyond me. Instead we traded for a guy who can't play, Gragnani, and a guy who may never play, Kassian). We also have a huge hole at the number 3 centre spot - if Malhotra cannot return to form. Lapierre only seems to have offence when he is a winger with talented forwards. That leaves us with a total of one useful centre for the first three lines - H. Sedin - we could be out of the playoffs by the time Kesler returns from injury, then gets himself in game shape.

Maybe MG is hoping for a useful return from a Luongo trade - good luck with that. People seeing a return from a Luongo trade are dreaming in technicolor - who would want that awful contract unless we pay them to take it? We would have to bundle Luongo with a desirable player/contract to get someone to take it - a big pile of bucks would help too. Who wants to be out 3-4-5-6- 10 years from now still taking on a 5.3 million dollar caphit - or doling out 6.7 million in cash for the next five years for a middle of the pack goalie? And that's now. What happens when his already deteriorating talent deteriorates further?

The big problem for the Canucks is to translate that financial and cap commitment to Luongo into a useful forward(S), probably a 2/3 centre and hope for Kassian or Jensen to be able to play in the NHL in a top six role. I think we shall see Jensen there before Kassian.

The forward corps problems lie at centre with a severe player shortage till Kesler returns, but if Malhotra isn't back to what he was, it will be a lingering shortage, and the fact that the 4.6 million dollar Booth isn't worth what we are paying him. People are saying trade Raymond, but until he proves he can play again after that back injury, what value will he have in today's NHL? Schroeder's lack of succes in the AHL does not bode well for him ever becoming a regular NHL player. After Jensen, Kassian, and Scroeder, there is precious little talent available for a top six forward, barring a miracle among the young recruits.

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 03:04 PM

Our offence is lacking when Kesler is hurt and can't play like Kelser. When he could play like Kesler two years ago, we had the best offence in the league. That said, we will have a huge hole at the 2nd centre spot till he returns (a spot the guy we traded would have been perfect for - why we did not trade for a centre to come back (knowing of Kesler's injury in February) is beyond me. Instead we traded for a guy who can't play, Gragnani, and a guy who may never play, Kassian). We also have a huge hole at the number 3 centre spot - if Malhotra cannot return to form. Lapierre only seems to have offence when he is a winger with talented forwards. That leaves us with a total of one useful centre for the first three lines - H. Sedin - we could be out of the playoffs by the time Kesler returns from injury, then gets himself in game shape.

Maybe MG is hoping for a useful return from a Luongo trade - good luck with that. People seeing a return from a Luongo trade are dreaming in technicolor - who would want that awful contract unless we pay them to take it? We would have to bundle Luongo with a desirable player/contract to get someone to take it - a big pile of bucks would help too. Who wants to be out 3-4-5-6- 10 years from now still taking on a 5.3 million dollar caphit - or doling out 6.7 million in cash for the next five years for a middle of the pack goalie? And that's now. What happens when his already deteriorating talent deteriorates further?

The big problem for the Canucks is to translate that financial and cap commitment to Luongo into a useful forward(S), probably a 2/3 centre and hope for Kassian or Jensen to be able to play in the NHL in a top six role. I think we shall see Jensen there before Kassian.

The forward corps problems lie at centre with a severe player shortage till Kesler returns, but if Malhotra isn't back to what he was, it will be a lingering shortage, and the fact that the 4.6 million dollar Booth isn't worth what we are paying him. People are saying trade Raymond, but until he proves he can play again after that back injury, what value will he have in today's NHL? Schroeder's lack of succes in the AHL does not bode well for him ever becoming a regular NHL player. After Jensen, Kassian, and Scroeder, there is precious little talent available for a top six forward, barring a miracle among the young recruits.


He has the potential to be worth the cap hit. It's a 4.25 M cap hit, btw.

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 03:19 PM

the solution is to put more pucks in the net. You have to look within the organization to see if we can use prospects to do this, you have to look at who is available through free agency and a goal scorer may be a player we want to get back from the luongo trade.

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 08:10 PM

Offense. Yes our dried up the last two playoff losses, hence the need for another good top six. Regular season we are in fine. Playoffs, intensity needs to be stepped up. Garbage goals, ugly goals, go to the net grinder goals need to be more plentiful. We were weak there.

Or was Kings just hungrier and forechecked us better to cough up the puck? like I said, many variables.
We have great regular season team. Just need to step it up in the playoffs, get hot and score some clutch goals.


This. We need to be hungry, crash the net , and hope the hockey gods will be in our favour. Boston out hustled us, and LA dominated us (Sorry the Canucks were brutal and we can't say it was because Daniel was injured, can't rely on one person in a team sport)

We just don't have that mentality, we rely too much on the cycle and our defence to pinch causing interceptions and 2 on 1's

That is just me

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 08:17 PM

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 09:47 PM

Chris Neil just signed a 3 year extension with Ottawa so i don't see them trading him


Yes - it would have to be an offer that is worth their while.




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